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alocks

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What are you guys upset about, exactly? Are you upset that you were 'scammed'? Because not all of you were paying for the game. So who are the people in the other group?

There are other games, many, out there that just have no complaints despite the typical, typical, typical schedule of progress slows to 1% at the 99% mark. And the patrons are giving them money, they choose to do it and still do it. I am usually confused and shocked when a game just goes and dies, despite years and years of crowdfunding, and people don't seem to usually have much of a reaction. There are many huge titles out there, let's just talk about Divine Arms for one. Are people even upset about that? For some reason, no, no one gives a damn and that game is essentially abandoned. It's a crowdfunded game that is in the queue of a queue. This is called a 2040 release at the earliest.
A lot of people like me come here because at least in F95Zone the messages are unfiltered. Jumped in the bandwagon because the VR. Try seeing their latest VR version, and how much time am I waiting for any updates, also I'm sure that a lot of people are only willing to pay if Helius finshes, and that's the main problem. So fuck off.
 
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Nihil5320

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I think people should probably just see it as the developer being hilariously honest and not being used to seeing that, instead they are used to the large capitalist developers who hide decisions like these.

I doubt people are upset that the game sucks, they're more upset that it isn't out yet/it isn't what they wanted. It's probably fair that everyone does want it to succeed.
This game has been in development since UE4 launched with their open licensing terms, around early 2015, and it has been one of the biggest adult games on Patreon since they changed their terms to allow adult content in 2016. It's a little different to other titles which are just a bit slow but still make progress or just outright don't have enough support to continue.

You are right however that the crux of the issue is that the game is still in a comparable state to most early prototypes, despite ~8 years of supposed dev time, and it's also still being actively marketed without advising users that it's intended as a F2P with in app purchases. Not sure this is an excellent defence mind you...
the developer being hilariously honest
As an aside I also wouldn't guarantee this. Helius has been harping on about story mode, campaign, gameplay elements etc. since the game was just called Fallen Doll. We've never seen so much as screenshots and half the descriptions of how it's meant to work don't make sense and/or contradict one another.

I'd honestly be surprised if combat drill is anywhere near complete or if its been a meaningful development focus at any point in this projects history. If and when it does come out it will probably just be some gacha BS he's outsourced to a mobile dev at the last moment which is obviously not what people paid for.
 
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Looks like PH beginning to seed the idea of abandoning his second project! Can't handle the financials and the stress of the game because he opted to pay for Denuvo and his team of "30" employees (mostly translators and "community managers"), leaving little to no money for himself (as he himself claims).

He honestly seemed to be doing fine on Patreon before he pivoted to transforming his scene viewer into a permanently online gacha porn game. The delays brought on by his own stupidity only cost him Patreon subscribers. He could have kept releasing Gallery stuff, growing his Patreon base, while developing his single player NSFW Game, and it would have been a massive financial success on Steam.
 

number01

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Seems like things have gone nuts after this year I took a rest from this

Btw to install the cracked Harem version it tells to extract the zip but there is none, only the one that contains the full game so can someone tell me where to find the crack?

Edit: I found the way but the initial instructions should be updated
 
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Zyro

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Looks like PH beginning to seed the idea of abandoning his second project! Can't handle the financials and the stress of the game because he opted to pay for Denuvo and his team of "30" employees (mostly translators and "community managers"), leaving little to no money for himself (as he himself claims).

He honestly seemed to be doing fine on Patreon before he pivoted to transforming his scene viewer into a permanently online gacha porn game. The delays brought on by his own stupidity only cost him Patreon subscribers. He could have kept releasing Gallery stuff, growing his Patreon base, while developing his single player NSFW Game, and it would have been a massive financial success on Steam.
Oh nyoo the man that's getting tens of thousands of dollars on Patreon monthly is suffering from a financial loss despite doing the bare minimum?

Poor Helius. Someone please get his Discord mods to donate him money.
 

Nihil5320

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From the look of things he will abandon this game soon.
What he will do next? Fallen Doll: Origins? Fallen Doll Remastered? Fallen Doll Remake? Fallen Doll 2? Fallen Doll Mobile? Fallen Doll VR?
Honestly my money would be on him just whining in Discord to try and get some sympathy, maybe he thinks he can convince people there is a reason he's going the dumbass gacha route and hasn't delivered anything meaningful in years. I doubt it will go anywhere.

Can you really see him doing anything to risk his Patreon subs? He's basically getting tens of thousands a month to occasionally change his pet project a little and/or post concept art.
 

Purple_Heart

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Honestly my money would be on him just whining in Discord to try and get some sympathy, maybe he thinks he can convince people there is a reason he's going the dumbass gacha route and hasn't delivered anything meaningful in years. I doubt it will go anywhere.

Can you really see him doing anything to risk his Patreon subs? He's basically getting tens of thousands a month to occasionally change his pet project a little and/or post concept art.
I don't see the risk you are talking about. There are still a lot of common folk paying him. There are also a lot of whales who are willing to pay more than AAA price for a game that is still not completed after all these years. We even had atleast one person in this thread who admitted subscribing to him and then forgetting to cancel his subscription.
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I wonder many people like this guy forgot cancelling their patreon subscriptions.

I think if he were to abandon this game and make another game some people would stop paying him but that loss would be nothing compared to the completely new people that would start paying him based on the artifically created hype by helius and his bootlickers. Majority of people don't care enough to check if developer has done shady things in the past so they would gladly pay him based on his promises alone.
 
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Nihil5320

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I think if he were to abandon this game and make another game some people would stop paying him but that loss would be nothing compared to the completely new people that would start paying him based on the artifically created hype by helius and his bootlickers. Majority of people don't care enough to check if developer has done shady things in the past so they would gladly pay him based on his promises alone.
Based on the "maybe the porn industry isn't for me" part I was presuming that the threat was to dump FD and then go make SFW gacha games. He probably would retain some of his Patreon for a time, I've seen creators who haven't posted in years that still have subscribers, but it would undoubtedly drop like a rock if he moved away from porn games entirely and I doubt he'd be able to leverage his existing Patreon account for a SFW project unless he was willing to scrub it.

Although having said that I think Helius' issue seems to be that he just outright isn't a good developer or project manager, so I don't see why he thinks he would succeed in making gacha mobile games which isn't exactly an uncompetitive market.
 

Purple_Heart

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Based on the "maybe the porn industry isn't for me" part I was presuming that the threat was to dump FD and then go make SFW gacha games. He probably would retain some of his Patreon for a time, I've seen creators who haven't posted in years that still have subscribers, but it would undoubtedly drop like a rock if he moved away from porn games entirely and I doubt he'd be able to leverage his existing Patreon account for a SFW project unless he was willing to scrub it.

Although having said that I think Helius' issue seems to be that he just outright isn't a good developer or project manager, so I don't see why he thinks he would succeed in making gacha mobile games which isn't exactly an uncompetitive market.
I didn't realize we were talking about sfw gacha games so I assumed his next game would also be a nsfw game similar to fallen doll. Regardless, a sfw gacha game will make more profits compared to a nsfw gacha but I don't think he has skills to keep a gacha game alive for long.
 
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Nihil5320

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I didn't realize we were talking about sfw gacha games so I assumed his next game would also be a nsfw game similar to fallen doll. Regardless, a sfw gacha game will make more profits compared to a nsfw gacha but I don't think he has skills to keep a gacha game alive for long.
Yeah the comment referenced above about the porn industry not being for him and the below:
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Seem to suggest that the plan would be to move away from porn entirely. I don't think he'd have the skills required to even complete development of a mobile game, or at least not one competent enough to gain enough users to be profitable. They certainly wouldn't be able to crowdfund it.

Hell I don't imagine that something with comparable build quality to FD would even get approved for the Apple/Google stores. Maybe the Chinese stores like Huawei/Oppo have lower quality requirements but I imagine even they have their limits.
 

RoadAnarchy

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Helies used scare tactics to get people on board with his monetization route.
He's basically saying that if he were to drop the online mode and turn back to offline, all the future content that was promised would be cancelled and he would only "polish" what's already done and deliver this in a package.
Meaning that all the future girls that we saw in those concept art would never come to the game.
The sad part is that his plan worked, the way he presented things, made his Patreons believe that the only way to go forward with this game was to go with Gacha and microtransactions.
Helies is going nowhere, and this project will stay as it is for many years to come. He said he has a small team many times before. The fewer people in the team, the less he gets to split the profit. He will not trow away free money.
 
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