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Nihil5320

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I think if he were to abandon this game and make another game some people would stop paying him but that loss would be nothing compared to the completely new people that would start paying him based on the artifically created hype by helius and his bootlickers. Majority of people don't care enough to check if developer has done shady things in the past so they would gladly pay him based on his promises alone.
Based on the "maybe the porn industry isn't for me" part I was presuming that the threat was to dump FD and then go make SFW gacha games. He probably would retain some of his Patreon for a time, I've seen creators who haven't posted in years that still have subscribers, but it would undoubtedly drop like a rock if he moved away from porn games entirely and I doubt he'd be able to leverage his existing Patreon account for a SFW project unless he was willing to scrub it.

Although having said that I think Helius' issue seems to be that he just outright isn't a good developer or project manager, so I don't see why he thinks he would succeed in making gacha mobile games which isn't exactly an uncompetitive market.
 

Purple_Heart

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Based on the "maybe the porn industry isn't for me" part I was presuming that the threat was to dump FD and then go make SFW gacha games. He probably would retain some of his Patreon for a time, I've seen creators who haven't posted in years that still have subscribers, but it would undoubtedly drop like a rock if he moved away from porn games entirely and I doubt he'd be able to leverage his existing Patreon account for a SFW project unless he was willing to scrub it.

Although having said that I think Helius' issue seems to be that he just outright isn't a good developer or project manager, so I don't see why he thinks he would succeed in making gacha mobile games which isn't exactly an uncompetitive market.
I didn't realize we were talking about sfw gacha games so I assumed his next game would also be a nsfw game similar to fallen doll. Regardless, a sfw gacha game will make more profits compared to a nsfw gacha but I don't think he has skills to keep a gacha game alive for long.
 
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Nihil5320

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I didn't realize we were talking about sfw gacha games so I assumed his next game would also be a nsfw game similar to fallen doll. Regardless, a sfw gacha game will make more profits compared to a nsfw gacha but I don't think he has skills to keep a gacha game alive for long.
Yeah the comment referenced above about the porn industry not being for him and the below:
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Seem to suggest that the plan would be to move away from porn entirely. I don't think he'd have the skills required to even complete development of a mobile game, or at least not one competent enough to gain enough users to be profitable. They certainly wouldn't be able to crowdfund it.

Hell I don't imagine that something with comparable build quality to FD would even get approved for the Apple/Google stores. Maybe the Chinese stores like Huawei/Oppo have lower quality requirements but I imagine even they have their limits.
 

RoadAnarchy

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Helies used scare tactics to get people on board with his monetization route.
He's basically saying that if he were to drop the online mode and turn back to offline, all the future content that was promised would be cancelled and he would only "polish" what's already done and deliver this in a package.
Meaning that all the future girls that we saw in those concept art would never come to the game.
The sad part is that his plan worked, the way he presented things, made his Patreons believe that the only way to go forward with this game was to go with Gacha and microtransactions.
Helies is going nowhere, and this project will stay as it is for many years to come. He said he has a small team many times before. The fewer people in the team, the less he gets to split the profit. He will not trow away free money.
 
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SortaLewd

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If this project does go under, all the people in the Discord server and moderators shutting down and trying to silence criticism are partially to blame. People have been suggesting to focus on the singleplayer experience first to actually release the game with the online portion gaining focus at some later date since before Harem was even available to play, but many of the patrons there continued to joke around and clown on people questioning the direction the game is heading in. Might be shitty to say, but those that dropped hundreds of dollars into this game and participated in that kind of behavior deserves having wasted that money. And if this game does flop I hope Pasix and some of the other moderators never get in a position of power again because the last year and few months or so they've been abusing that power and silencing those they don't agree with regardless of whether rules have been broken or not.

As someone that chipped in the $36, I'd vote option A to get a full game and be done with this developer lol.
 
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SortaLewd

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I don't see the risk you are talking about. There are still a lot of common folk paying him. There are also a lot of whales who are willing to pay more than AAA price for a game that is still not completed after all these years. We even had atleast one person in this thread who admitted subscribing to him and then forgetting to cancel his subscription.
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I wonder many people like this guy forgot cancelling their patreon subscriptions.

I think if he were to abandon this game and make another game some people would stop paying him but that loss would be nothing compared to the completely new people that would start paying him based on the artifically created hype by helius and his bootlickers. Majority of people don't care enough to check if developer has done shady things in the past so they would gladly pay him based on his promises alone.
I know that post is old, but claiming someone is insecure because they don't enjoy group masturbation is hilarious
 

Ofdimaelr

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As someone that chipped in the $36, I'd vote option A to get a full game and be done with this developer lol.
He is going to do the same shit again and again because it work sadly.

What a dishonnest choice anyway, he could just remove all the online part that are a complete waste of money and time (all the networking and servers and those crazy things) give us the gallery mode, work on a few new maps, new characters, remove the battlepass and those weird things, sell the full game 60$, you could even sell new characters or map as DLC and nobody would get angry.
 

Shadow_deep

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So Helius just posted an image of the "new" pose thumbnails for the upcoming girl. And around half of them are clearly reskins of old animations that somehow disappeared from the game in patch 0.7.0 :poop:

You can happily continue using the cracked 0.4.9, you still won't be missing much.

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Only I feel it like Photoshop or image processed thumbnails? Definitely, he has a talent to sell cheap stuff for a lot )
 

Whotfisthis

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Only I feel it like Photoshop or image processed thumbnails? Definitely, he has a talent to sell cheap stuff for a lot )
For some reason I was expecting a lot higher graphics fidelity from that image



On another note, does anyone have or know of vids showcasing the new/re-released animations as opposed to stuff in v.0.4.9? I don't have anything that could run this game, not like I'll ever gonna actually play it
 
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There we have it folks, the moment we all saw coming since the very beginning. The cycle of destruction and creation, except this time it will be harder for him to gather the same following unless he changes names or something.

On top of being utterly irresponsible, and a verified scammer this guy (or whoever are behind Scamlius) has no trace of morals so he's blaming literally everyone else for their bad reputation and the overall animosity against the Fallen Project.

Name dropping, "big companies", "mystery financers", "experienced team members" poached or aquired etc etc. A load of the usual excuses, nothing but hot air. The guy(s) pretty much have this adopted as their modus operandi, and the modus vivendi of rebooting and recycling assets into new promises, living off unsuspecting suckers that don't research before betting their money...

Bonus point for reducing the discussion to a fake dicotomy. ScamLies is nothing if amusing.
 

Nihil5320

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is there some kind of cheat menu for this?
If you download the game from this thread, in the first post, then there's no need for a cheat menu as everything is unlocked and there's no actual gameplay anyway (it's just an animation player where you can position models).

If you have the paid version you have to keep playing the animations over and over again to unlock more animations, and there's a daily limit/daily quests etc. so you have to do it every day. Fun fun.
 

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You people really love to speculate and blow things out of proportion lol
Homeboy has been blaming mystery investors for bad ideas throughout almost the entire development of OL. IIRC it was the original excuse he gave for why he made it online only.

He's trying to distance himself from his own terrible ideas, posturing about how super important he is with all these totally real big time investors begging him to work for them, and trying to humble brag about how he's turning down all these big offers because he cares about the community so very very much.
 
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Homeboy has been blaming mystery investors for bad ideas throughout almost the entire development of OL. IIRC it was the original excuse he gave for why he made it online only.

He's trying to distance himself from his own terrible ideas, posturing about how super important he is with all these totally real big time investors begging him to work for them, and trying to humble brag about how he's turning down all these big offers because he cares about the community so very very much.

IIRC he claimed he didnt accept because he doesnt want those gachas and stuff in his game? Though oddly those very same thing are in the "game" now.
 
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IIRC he claimed he didnt accept because he doesnt want those gachas and stuff in his game? Though oddly those very same thing are in the "game" now.
helius is a bi-polar mofo lol what do you expect but lies and deception

stupid fk ruined a good game, this could have been the best seller on steam with original plans
 
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