Enyo_

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I have weird question, all things considered. Is there or will be there way to give Mark happy ending, if not with Mel than in some other way? Problem with other male characters that are too well fleshed (or are interesting in any way) is that they trigger my 'bros before hoes' instinct. Also I like all cast to much, I can't even go my usuals "fuck everything that moves" route. Damn you, remaining shreds of morality :p
I understand your feeling very well. I also thought how to make this not too sad for Mark. But I didn't think of anything yet o_O So for now Mark is not in a good position. :(
 
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Hi! Just a quick information about the progress of the update. As I said before, I'm only waiting for translation. Final translation of the update has to be sent to me on 4 June. After that I'll start to put this text into the code, test everything etc.
If I'll work according to my plan, I'll be able to release the update on 10 June. WARNING! It is not a deadline, it's just a plan that I set for myself. There may be some inconveniences, considering how much texts there are in this update. If you follow me in discord you know I said that I won't tell specific deadline dates for the release of this update. So when I say 10 June it's just a possible date of the release. I may release the update in a month, or in a year. I won't release it until I will be satisfied with the result. So don't be angry if I won't release it on June 10, I warned you.
Anyway, what I'm doing while I'm waiting for the final translation: I'm already working on the next update, in which I'm 100% sure will be events with Lucy and Tiffany. I already did a few of them. But it is not certain on whom exactly the update will be focused. It will be determined in the poll that I'll make after I will release this update. So I'm not in a hurry to focus fully on any character specific.
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Enyo_

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IDK, a dev has to give the update release time anyway. Root cause of the problem looks like his habit to keep overestimating himself, as the game description implied.

Porn VNs/games with high-quality 3D renders has a common trend

Great start with positive reviews -> update slower and slower -> Game abandoned

People including devs and fans should understand that 3D art and rendering are "economically ineffective." The work requires too much effort and time for so little reward. The most successful AVN devs monthly make $3000-$7000 and lower-layer devs $500-$2000 from Patreon, possibly only income during the development. The reward even for a successful dev is not that much, considering the work requires full-time (8-10 hours per day) possibly without weekends. After a couple of years in that situation, devs get tired or have to find a better job/work.

Without careful planning and appraisal, devs may not see fruit of their efforts.
You're completely right about effort, time etc. Careful planning is very important!

But in my situation, there is no possibility of the game being abandoned. Because I'm not "working" on my game, it's my hobby and I enjoy every single second of it. I probably enjoy too much, that's why I keep changing and improving things and working at really slow speed.

I do everything in order to enjoy my project and keep being passionate about this. And I'm doing pretty well with this. It's not really good money making strategy though. :LOL:
 
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mauro

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I do not really understand! First deadline was in Feb and after 4 (FOUR!!!) months it's not even translated! How could he have thought of releasing the update in Feb? Now he PLANS to release it on 10 June (so we won't see the update since 10 July at least...). This is not a problem with deadlins, this is a problem with organization of work!! I don't care if he releases updates once a week or once a year (as he said, it's not a work, it's a hobby), but you can't say the update will be ready on Feb when after 4 months you're still "waiting for the translation"! Every single post was a lie to take time. Your work is great but 4 months of delays are too much
 
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ronniereagan

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So when I say 10 June it's just a possible date of the release. I may release the update in a month, or in a year. I won't release it until I will be satisfied with the result. So don't be angry if I won't release it on June 10, I warned you.
Boom! That was a great way of managing expectations. You should probably just copy and paste that with adjusted dates, every time you're posting an update on ETA.
 
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Boom! That was a great way of managing expectations. You should probably just copy and paste that with adjusted dates, every time you're posting an update on ETA.
Yea great way of managing expectations “I may or may not ever come out with an update.” I guess it does certainly manage expectations, but it will get him zero new paying customers if he can’t deliver anything on any sort of time table.
 
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NukaCola

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I have weird question, all things considered. Is there or will be there way to give Mark happy ending, if not with Mel than in some other way? Problem with other male characters that are too well fleshed (or are interesting in any way) is that they trigger my 'bros before hoes' instinct. Also I like all cast to much, I can't even go my usuals "fuck everything that moves" route. Damn you, remaining shreds of morality :p
I would like this as well since I have no interest in Mel anyway. Mark can have his wife as long as he approve me "dating" Tiffany.
 
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mauro

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4 months for a translation.. Even the Bible could be translated in less time..
At least stop making fun of people and tell the truth for once, so who decides to support you will know what he supports for! You keep giving deadlines even when you perfectly know you won't be able to release the update on that date, so people will continue to support you hoping in a release. I don't know if you are like this or not and I don't care, this is how people sees you and it's all your fault.
 
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Kakato

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If you go through all the comments, you can see what people want.
So.... ? Did they make you their spokesman? I mean, if I want something, I'll say " I ". I won't speak on the behalf of others even if a lot of comments tend towards NTR. I'm not a fan of NTR, so when you use " we " , it's only natural I don't feel concerned with your post. Hope you get that point.
 

cxx

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ntr? nope
sex? yes
sharing? maybe, depends who is shared (tiff's mommy and mc and her hubby should satisfy her for a while)
 
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thenono

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If you made people invest on your VN, it's your work, should not be your hobby. And you should do your learning in your free time without degrading your work performance. Passion does not make a product but accurate consistency does.

Based on what you said, you may not hear from me again.
I'm hoping this is just some sarcasm I don't quite understand.....
 

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I'm hoping this is just some sarcasm I don't quite understand.....
What don't you understand? It's like throwing a nickel or two to street musicians. Now I paid them and they owe me, so they better prepare (in their free time) and give better performance tomorrow! :LOL:

Seriously, no matter what some creators may say (but they usually don't give too many solid promises), Patreon is essentially a tip jar. You're not buying a product. You see something you like, so you give a contribution, with hope that it will help to create more. But there are zero guarantees. Maybe it could be made more obvious, so that everyone would undestand it, but that's how it works.
 
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I wanted to remind something to you. On 11/03/2021 Enyo said that %60 of the text is translated. On 28/02/2021 he stated that he has just started to send events to his translator. Basic math time. If %60 of a job requires 11 days, how many days does the translator need to do the rest of the job? Correct Answer: 95 days.(Yes, I counted) :)
If you ask my opinion, I don't think none of these deadlines were real. Enyo planned to release it on june/july from the very beggining but he needed interaction on this website to promote his work. I'm pretty sure that I would've learned the language on an adequate level to translate his work, whatever his main language is. I don't think that his main language is an uncommon one. He's creating a false mystery, which then he uses as an excuse. Probably enyo will say no it wasn't a lie, if it were I would've come up with a better one. I doubt it. Doing the same thing for over 3 years, he must have ran out of logical excuses.
Finally, I want to state that I don't care about the time I have to wait for this game. It's the lying that really annoys me.(and the denying of it)
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I wanted to remind something to you. On 11/03/2021 Enyo said that %60 of the text is translated. On 28/02/2021 he stated that he has just started to send events to his translator. Basic math time. If %60 of a job requires 11 days, how many days does the translator need to do the rest of the job? Correct Answer: 95 days.(Yes, I counted) :)
If you ask my opinion, I don't think none of these deadlines were real. Enyo planned to release it on june/july from the very beggining but he needed interaction on this website to promote his work. I'm pretty sure that I would've learned the language on an adequate level to translate his work, whatever his main language is. I don't think that his main language is an uncommon one. He's creating a false mystery, which then he uses as an excuse. Probably enyo will say no it wasn't a lie, if it were I would've come up with a better one. I doubt it. Doing the same thing for over 3 years, he must have ran out of logical excuses.
Finally, I want to state that I don't care about the time I have to wait for this game. It's the lying that really annoys me.(and the denying of it)
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This game is not going anywhere, stuck at the same place where it was in 2018. And it's not even a game, it's a VN full of texts with lot of bad English and grammatical mistakes and hardly any choices. He says that I will implement this and that in game but till now nothing has been implemented. Hundreds of game has come after this and have more story and content than this game.
 
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