VN Ren'Py Abandoned Family Again [v0.4.0] [F_Dot]

[LostGhost]

so read most of these 21 pages and while some criticism is valid (like mc acting like some weird perverted 15 year or 70 year old dude (nothing in between), some characters mc/mia being really dense(and others lacking some logic too) and maybe biggest flaw being girls ages??? while visually (especially Mia) looks grown up but ipatch makes her 16 and Ellie is...14, 15 tops. Not cool. Also what does that Ipatch also do? usually these patches are needed for setting from landlady to mom but what does it do in this case? just ages? changes your relationship to mia? could skip the patch then).

But I was very impressed by devs creative abilities during prologue (he made me like all characters which is quite rare, usually in these games I like girls who are more shy but here I was liking Olivia just as much as Lily if not more). I am quite hopeful that for next releases that he will manage to come with really good explanations why Ellie is mc's daughter (which is obvious as fuck and I am quite shocked that there were like 5 pages out of 21 people arguing about that and some people even making up some imaginary arguments) and why Olivia/Lucas not telling him that yet.

Things I am a bit more worried are a) that after first release dev said that he will have no choice but to abandom game if it is not popular enough. And so far patreon/ss is kinda low (39 combined?) and with all shitstorm going on (and lets face it..first chapter was quite a bit weaker than prologue)...dunno how much motivation he has
b) well...ntr? I know he said it is going to be avoidable but that thing always scare me

I read in these posts that there was some situation were Lily was giving handjob (while crying) trying to save mc from those gang members (doesnt sound like ntr but still unpleasant) however I havent seen that scene? so either I made wrong choices or it was changed in new release. Talking about choices...this game could probably use a mod, dunno if I missed any scenes but especially with points system that dev is implementing, choices might matter.

The thing is relationship of Lucas and Olivia made me think I think I should drop this because I atleast wanted to reject her path to continue and developer keeping their relationship in dark definitely not helping the supporters they don't subscribe if they have mixed thoughts.

 

[intrigan]

Trolling with pointless banter and insults with no logic or coherent though process.

I express my emotions cause I've got them due to my attitude to the game, without imposing myself as a fake psychologist.

 

[shynos]

violence doesn't suit me in any way, incest, corruption and moderate loli fascinate me, I like this game and it seems that it is now on the way to what interests me so it's welcome, after all it almost happened to me 16 hours working and when the night comes what I want is something light to relax before sleeping, so I leave such deep analyzes to the scholars, after all this is an adult game and nothing more. greetings and thanks

 

[Raziel_8]

The first update was certainly a surprise, althought not a possitive one.

-Mia is complet bitch and behaves (or maybe is) a slut, seriusly i wouldn't be sad if she took the next bat to the head.

-Ellie, well...if she isn't the real daughter than she can go as well.

-Olivia, seriusly whats wrong with her ? First thing rape jokes, than she trys to make her daughter more sexual aktive, with the MC...but freaks out if the mc gets a hard on, just so she can puch Ellie more on him.
And what's whit the the question if mc hates her cause she has a child with someone else...is she trying to mind fuck mc for the lol's.

-Worst the MC
He behaves like a complete pervert/creepy kid, way worse than he was 20 years ago.
He is a completely spineless, whiny bitch.
He has no problem after returning that his love/wife has a fucked his best friend shortly after he left and has a child with him...seriously,no nothing all is fine.
Whines that no one loves him and the girl he loves is no longer his and has a child with someone else, only to imediatly simp for Olivia that all that doesn't matter...just how much of a simp/cuck is this mc.

Lastly it would be really appreciated to have a choice to reject girls.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Someone who natively speaks English needs to redo this script.
Right now it feels like an 80's slavic clubber is writing it with a very "old school" perspective.

"Seks is good, girlz ar hookers, pefekt virgin bride or slut, no inbetween"

It hurts my brain playing this.

 

[Havik79]

Yeah I gave up and just skipped for the sex scenes, we literally raped a friend and now we are a fucking loser.
So much stupidity in the game, almost nothing makes any sense, like "I am not a whore, 50 bucks and I will jerk you off", literally the definition of a whore.

 

[Canto Forte]

She is doing a massage to relax this guy. She feels him tense a little.
She offers to releave his tension, also part of her massage routine to relax him.
We will have to see where that is going, they know eachother now on a personal level.

 

[Fazed]

Yeah I gave up and just skipped for the sex scenes, we literally raped a friend and now we are a fucking loser.
So much stupidity in the game, almost nothing makes any sense, like "I am not a whore, 50 bucks and I will jerk you off", literally the definition of a whore.

I'm not gonna argue semantics here, but if she really doesn't have parents and is paying for herself through school, having to choose between paying tuition and eating...I'd say if that is as far as she goes doing a massage job she's at the very least trying not be a whore. She's in a shitty situation and she is trying to make the best of it. Feel free to not like her but at least look at the details.

 

[Havik79]

Yeah no, massage is one thing, jerking/footjobs for money is another, she's a whore.

 

[Fazed]

Life must be so simple for some people who only look at everything through a black and white lens.

 

[kiljaeden]

Yeah no, massage is one thing, jerking/footjobs for money is another, she's a whore.

There are a lot of places where you can get "happy ending" as part of the massage. Also by your logic strippers, nude models, actors, some dancers etc. can be called whores since they are doing sexual things for money. You can go even further.

 

[sdawg1234]

There are a lot of places where you can get "happy ending" as part of the massage. Also by your logic strippers, nude models, actors, some dancers etc. can be called whores since they are doing sexual things for money. You can go even further.

to be fair that is pretty much definition of a prostitute someone who exchanges sexual favors for money. while all the people you named don't exchange favors for money what he is complaining about is by definition prostitution in most parts of the world. Like someone posted above it's black and white.

 

[Fazed]

to be fair that is pretty much definition of a prostitute someone who exchanges sexual favors for money. while all the people you named don't exchange favors for money what he is complaining about is by definition prostitution in most parts of the world. Like someone posted above it's black and white.

Yes, but while the definition of it is black and white or clear cut rather, I personally would not call Judy a whore the the same way I would one of the hookers from earlier in the story. To me it's an entirely different vibe because the details of the matter are different, which is why I said life must be so simple for people who only see things in black and white.

 

[intrigan]

Secular whores are much worse than real ones. They're rotten from the inside out.

 

[sdawg1234]

Yes, but while the definition of it is black and white or clear cut rather, I personally would not call Judy a whore the the same way I would one of the hookers from earlier in the story. To me it's an entirely different vibe because the details of the matter are different, which is why I said life must be so simple for people who only see things in black and white.

Oh I agree and I don't see everything as b&w I was just pointing out that how Havik79 saw it wasn't wrong. Whatever the reasons for her actions by definition it is prostitution. I, like you don't view it the same as a girl on a track.

 

[char_2.0]

It won't have much to do with it, but this game reminds me of Kotowari from Rurouni Kenshin

 

[Canto Forte]

We found love in a hopeless place. We found love in a hopeless place.
Love needs attention, it needs dedication, it needs nurture, play and introduce love to these hotties.

 

[Doobiedoobiedoooo]

Yes, but while the definition of it is black and white or clear cut rather, I personally would not call Judy a whore the the same way I would one of the hookers from earlier in the story. To me it's an entirely different vibe because the details of the matter are different, which is why I said life must be so simple for people who only see things in black and white.

Looking at the overall work, you picked a really weird scene in this VN to defend. The scene was retarded.

 

[Doobiedoobiedoooo]

The sob session every time this guy opens his wallet is grating. Maybe a rueful thought about how you gotta get some money coming in would work. Who wants to see the world through the eyes of a cheap guy who acts like he's got no arms and no legs as far as providing for himself and his family? Who fantasizes about being that guy?

 

[H_NGM_N666]

Judy learnt the how-to do a massage from her mom. If it is the truth and she must do all alone, then it seems easy money. But this is the definition of a whore (sex for money/prostitute). She choose to do it... In RL you can go almost to all massage parlors and you get one with happy end if you are charming or open your wallet more.

BUT how lucky she is now to get to know our mc Maybe she gets an even better paid job at the "Bar" ;-) haha