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NakedSingularity

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Dev needs to fire the writer and if the dev is the writer, he needs to hire a different one.
The writing makes the MC a freaking sociopath.
Maybe it's intended? Sociopathic is considered a good thing to some, even in the real world (how do you think Ted Bundy was a pretty good pick up artist?). And in an AVN world anything is fair game.
 

NakedSingularity

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It is the MC's kid, they have been lying to her which is still my main problem with the game.

Nobody is honest, they are all lying and they keep lying.

Game called Family Again and all the adults are lying peices of shit that should have been honest from day 1 and if this was a real life situation it would blow right up in their faces when they decide to stop lying.

Imagine being those girls, being lied to for years. Meeting your dad and still being lied to for months then them telling you truth?

I don't know about anyone else but that would be me going no contact with my mother and telling my father he's a gutless prick before going no contact with him.

I don't like liars and this game is making them look like shitty people and shittier parents. I don't get who i'm supposed to be rooting for because the fact the MC can't be honest and tell his kid who's also the daughter of the girl that was supposedly the love of his life just makes me hate him.

I just feel bad for the kids, they deserve better.
Lies are never meant to end usually. So it's all fine if he keeps the lie going and takes the truth to his grave.
 

NakedSingularity

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How can you tell the patch is working? What does it actually change?
Not sure, as if there's an incest or loli patch I auto use it. I've never did a playthrough of any AVN without one to look for differences. Guess when supposed family members are the step version or there's roommates or childhood friends instead of sisters it didn't work or when everyone is "18" but from looks and story context they are 10 (ie what 18yo is still in elementary or middle school?).
 

Carpe Stultus

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After playing it again, since it was a while, i honestly can only shake my head about the people who demand loyalty from her, when she literally fucked the MC when he was already in a relationship and after all that he ran off and the "believe in me, i'll be back" shit is even more unbelievable when a criminal like the MC says it. There is not a single reason to even believe that she'd wait because this whole relationship was fucked up from the get go.

It might be ok to think that someone in a normal relationship is loyal to a certain extend, 8 years is a very long time to be loyal with not seeing each other so that thought is very unrealistic, but in relationships like this? Come on.

Also Mr. Kim...cough. :LUL:
 
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JamieSadistic

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Maybe it's intended? Sociopathic is considered a good thing to some, even in the real world (how do you think Ted Bundy was a pretty good pick up artist?). And in an AVN world anything is fair game.
I mean I get that but I don't think you can use "good thing", "sociopathy" and "Ted Bundy" in the same sentence man.
Ted Bundy was a manipulative person. Lying and turning his charms on and off were part of who he was.
It's not a good thing to use manipulation and sociopathy to pick up anyone man.
That being said, the fact that MC looks directly at the mother of his child, gets his dick sucked and literally calls the babies attention to the pornographic scene happening right before her eyes is just different levels of wrong.
As Avaron1974 said, this MC is a scummy disgusting person and I just don't see how I'm expected to have sympathy for him at all.
 

Mario4don

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ok not sure it this was answered before but the ending to chapter 2 definitely makes me question what happened after me went into hiding i thought Ellie was the MC and Olivia's kid but did Olivia and Lucas have a sexual relationship i know Olivia told Ellie Lucas was her father before i thought that was Bull after the ending we just got im not sure anymore what are your guys thoughts ?
It is the MC's kid, they have been lying to her which is still my main problem with the game.

Nobody is honest, they are all lying and they keep lying.

Game called Family Again and all the adults are lying peices of shit that should have been honest from day 1 and if this was a real life situation it would blow right up in their faces when they decide to stop lying.

Imagine being those girls, being lied to for years. Meeting your dad and still being lied to for months then them telling you truth?

I don't know about anyone else but that would be me going no contact with my mother and telling my father he's a gutless prick before going no contact with him.

I don't like liars and this game is making them look like shitty people and shittier parents. I don't get who i'm supposed to be rooting for because the fact the MC can't be honest and tell his kid who's also the daughter of the girl that was supposedly the love of his life just makes me hate him.

I just feel bad for the kids, they deserve better.
I am also 100% sure that Ellie is the MC's daughter.
I am also almost certain that nothing ever happened between Olivia and Lucas and Olivia waited all those years for MC and was faithful to him.
After this update it also seems to me that even Ellie knows the truth about the MC being her real father, and the fact that she is officially sticking to version that Lucas is her father is probably only because that Olivia told her to do so.
So in my opinion only MC and Mia don't know the whole truth because MC doesn't know that Ellie is his daughter and Mia in turn doesn't know that MC is her father and also Ellie's father.

Another point is that it can be clearly deduced that Lucas has long had a crush on Olivia, probably from the very beginning when he and the MC met her.

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And it seems to me that the whole plot in this game is based on the fact that here everyone is lying to everyone else and hiding secrets from others.

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Carpe Stultus

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I am also 100% sure that Ellie is the MC's daughter.
I am also almost certain that nothing ever happened between Olivia and Lucas and Olivia waited all those years for MC and was faithful to him.
After this update it also seems to me that even Ellie knows the truth about the MC being her real father, and the fact that she is officially sticking to version that Lucas is her father is probably only because that Olivia told her to do so.
So in my opinion only MC and Mia don't know the whole truth because MC doesn't know that Ellie is his daughter and Mia in turn doesn't know that MC is her father and also Ellie's father.

Another point is that it can be clearly deduced that Lucas has long had a crush on Olivia, probably from the very beginning when he and the MC met her.

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And it seems to me that the whole plot in this game is based on the fact that here everyone is lying to everyone else and hiding secrets from others.

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If you played it its pretty obvious that there hasn't been anything between her and lucas because mr kim took care of her needs, so yeah it is pretty reasonable to assume that both girls are his daughters.
 
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groudor

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Which is also confirmed by the ending of this update when we find out that Lucas is terribly afraid of the fact that the MC has returned too early and fears how the MC will react when he discovers what is really going on at this Lucas club which is clearly involved in some illegal and shady business
For me it was Lucas who blurted out the location of the house of MC and Lily to get revenge on his friend who was fucking olivia
I think he just wanted them to beat him but when things got out of hand he sincerely regretted it
 

Avaron1974

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Don't get me wrong, i'm enjoying the story and the characters but until they start being honest with these kids and start making it up to them i'm going to think they are scummy parents.
 

Arx07

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I prefer hold to play this game before drama & conflict its better, ofcourse for healty heart.
Mention me when the 'Sweet' condition already update guys.
 

bosp

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Huh, some people here are taking this VN fairly seriously so I am just going to ask one question:

How can you get any immersion with an MC that is throughout the whole available content behaving and acting like a horny 11-year-old wanker with an IQ of a bar of soap?

Also, the majority of dialogues are beyond stupid.
I just don't get it?
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Huh, some people here are taking this VN fairly seriously so I am just going to ask one question:

How can you get any immersion with an MC that is throughout the whole available content behaving and acting like a horny 11-year-old wanker with an IQ of a bar of soap?

Also, the majority of dialogues are beyond stupid.
I just don't get it?
MC during prologue wasn't that bad. Then Chapter 1 happened.
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Don't get me wrong, i'm enjoying the story and the characters but until they start being honest with these kids and start making it up to them i'm going to think they are scummy parents.
Btw, who's this Mr. Kim? Is he actually pleasuring Olivia literally or figuratively?
 

Saphfire

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Well, i played the prologue and liked it (except the horrible writing). In fact i liked it so much i even subscribed as a patron, becaue i always support the devs for their work if i like it. But now i´m speechless.... What happened to the MC? It is like he turned 180 and became a child again? His behaviour is now beyond stupidity. The choices seem to mean nothing at all?
For example, i did not spank the bartender, but the next day she claims i did? And of course i don´t have a different choice as an option? I´m really starting to regret my patreon decision now.
 
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