Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.01] [JohnAndRich]

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L.Lumpy

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Space Ghost said:
Whats this? A dozen updates and no sex?
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The game definitely has sex in it. If you'd actually read the post trail, you'd see that they were specifically talking about Parker (the MC) and one specific character - Becky - that he's pursuing.

Space Ghost said:
What is this a tease game? Milker?
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Far from it, as you'd figure out if you read the story. And accusing a dev who's put out the number of updates Rich has, over the period of time that he's kept this going of being a "milker" is a bit insulting, I think.

Or do you only like games where the MC is already banging every female in sight by the 0.2 release?
 
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L.Lumpy said:
Far from it, as you'd figure out if you read the story. And accusing a dev who's put out the number of updates Rich has, over the period of time that he's kept this going of being a "milker" is a bit insulting, I think.
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I always find it interesting when people get concerned over what other people spend their money on.
As far as I know, no patron has ever been forced to donate money to a Dev. :)
 
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Space Ghost, if you're somehow convinced that I'm "milking" this game to try to increase my relatively-paltry earnings based on not understanding third-hand comments about what's happening in it, you're welcome not to contribute to it, and to go your merry way. Or maybe even leave the site entirely and not play the free copies of games you're getting through this site. I mean, who's milking whom if you're playing pirated games?

For the record, however, the first (pirated) release of this game on this site was in December of 2018. There have been 12 releases between then and now, so that's an average of a release about every 3 months. That actually overestimates the time between releases, because I had a very long gap between 5.0 and 6.0 due to family trauma. Excluding that, the average cadence has been every 2-2.5 months.

Let's see you bang out script, 250-300 renders and game programming every other month for over three years before you accuse someone else of "milking."

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To my loyal followers, apologies for my ire. To those of you who have donated cash, Daz assets and valuable suggestions, I (again) thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm sure you know by now that I'm committed to finishing this project, not "milking" it for... well... whatever.
 
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Space Ghost said:
Whats this? A dozen updates and no sex? What is this a tease game? Milker?
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It the difference between Erotica and Porn. Porn is viseral, crude and route of least resistance, Erotica is more cerebral, about exciting the senses and imagination, Erotica shouldn't show too much too soon or it risks destroying the fantasy

I haven't played this in a while, I prefer not to grab every update immediately, but even the early versions I played showed real potential to be a true work of erotica.
 
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Stil996 said:
It the difference between Erotica and Porn. Porn is viseral, crude and route of least resistance, Erotica is more cerebral, about exciting the senses and imagination, Erotica shouldn't show too much too soon or it risks destroying the fantasy
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Well said! Applause! Unlike a lot of games here, this project has had a nuanced plot, with a lot of tantalizing, cliff-hanger chapter endings. The characters react in realistic ways, even if I get frustrated at how much of an idiot Parker can be at times. A far cry from the 7,358 vanilla "kid seduces sister and mother/landlady" 0.2's you see here.

And before anybody bitches, yes, you have to suspend disbelief at a few of the early events, but isn't that true of all the games here?

I'm eagerly awaiting the next release. (And, per the FAQ, Rich, I will refrain from asking "when." LOL)
 
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Some stories are not only about use of sex for the sake of it. This game is following a set plan and then using sex to advance the plot. Even when I asked questions in the past that made people upset it was never about the idea of sex but more about trying to figure out how certain events if occurring would change the dynamic of the story especially between the MC and his mother. Although I will admit that the mother is hot. If it was all about sex than the one complaining should check out porn sites rather than visual novels. Just my opinion.
 
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Maverick369 said:
Some stories are not only about use of sex for the sake of it.
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Thank you.

This is a story that happens to involve sex. Not a plot that's "an excuse for sex." No, it isn't something pandering to the mainstream, but it's the story (well, two stories, now that we've split in Ch 9) that I want to tell, not something that's pandering to base commercialism.

Maverick369 said:
Even when I asked questions in the past that made people upset it was never about the idea of sex but more about trying to figure out how certain events if occurring would change the dynamic of the story especially between the MC and his mother.
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Again, apologies for the fact that some people were kind of harsh to you in your initial posts.

Maverick369 said:
Although I will admit that the mother is hot.
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"Higher praise can no man request." LOL

Maverick369 said:
If it was all about sex than the one complaining should check out porn sites rather than visual novels. Just my opinion.
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Again, yes, IMHO. And thank you.
 
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Rich said:
Space Ghost, if you're somehow convinced that I'm "milking" this game to try to increase my relatively-paltry earnings based on not understanding third-hand comments about what's happening in it, you're welcome not to contribute to it, and to go your merry way. Or maybe even leave the site entirely and not play the free copies of games you're getting through this site. I mean, who's milking whom if you're playing pirated games?

For the record, however, the first (pirated) release of this game on this site was in December of 2018. There have been 12 releases between then and now, so that's an average of a release about every 3 months. That actually overestimates the time between releases, because I had a very long gap between 5.0 and 6.0 due to family trauma. Excluding that, the average cadence has been every 2-2.5 months.

Let's see you bang out script, 250-300 renders and game programming every other month for over three years before you accuse someone else of "milking."

EDITED -

To my loyal followers, apologies for my ire. To those of you who have donated cash, Daz assets and valuable suggestions, I (again) thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm sure you know by now that I'm committed to finishing this project, not "milking" it for... well... whatever.
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So v0.12 in Feb? :sneaky:
 
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Space Ghost said:
Whats this? A dozen updates and no sex? What is this a tease game? Milker?
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1) There is some sex in the game. (Not with MC, but others)

2) "Teasing" and "Milking" are not synonymous or interchangeable.

3) Rich is one of the most overworked and underpaid developers on here. 14 Patrons on 12 updates.

A milker is not someone who "Teases" in their game. That has nothing to do with it. Here is what a Milker does:

-Start on the up and up
-Have many more patrons
-delay delay delay
-make and break promise after promise
-Pretend it is not abandoned when it is
-Ride this out as long as possible thanks to the
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Maverick369

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Another great chapter both with the renders and story itself. Again as said before it is not sex just for sex sake but being used to move the plot along especially in regards to Parker. I won't give away any spoilers but I will say the way it was written make sense with the overall progression of the story. Why are you making us wait for the next chapter for what happens on Tuesday. LOL Im also starting to see a possible idea of where the story is going especially in terms of Parkers mom and Parker himself.
 
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Maverick369

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It is a good thing your also on subscribe star because I get the feeling Pateron is getting rougher on games like this and making them change the content. Look a how they effectively destroyed Milfy City.
 
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