Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.01] [JohnAndRich]

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I will add my 2 cents. I feel that most devs (there are some terrible ones who just abandon games if they don't make enough on patreon and don't give a crap that people donated) are pretty good about listening to people here. They might not make the changes or go the path people want to go down but it is there game. I have played games that had stuff in them that I didn't care for but the game was still worth playing.

Now if people are respectful about what they are interested in and not pissing and moaning or saying they will be pissed if they don't get exactly what they want then I see no problem with them posting what they would like to see or are hoping to see and just as garret64 said, to him it wasn't personal just wasn't what he was interested in anymore. I myself respect posts like that, it wasn't demanding, it wasn't rude. We should all strive to make posts like that with that tone.
 

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So, I'm not going to look upon the Mona Lisa again until someone paints a better smile on her! You know, one that "I" like! :)
Here's how I would put that:
I came to see the Mona Lisa, I liked seeing the Mona Lisa, but when I came back to see it again, I found that the Mona Lisa has been put in the janitor's closet. I have no interest in the other paintings, so I will stop coming around. If they ever bring back the Mona Lisa, I will return.
 

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LOL! Chill out a bit. You seem to be taking things jeeeest a bit too literal. It's a passing comment, not a demand, not a sworn oath, not even a minor threat.
Then perhaps you should reconsider your phraseology in the future. It was (IMHO) a rather impolite way to state that you were hoping for a particular type of content.

You seem to have a bad case of discussion board rage going there. Kinda like road rage but you have a keyboard in your hands instead of a steering wheel. My advice is to step away from the porn for a bit and engage in some real life stuff for a while.
And you seem to be awfully sensitive when people call you out for what they consider to be impoliteness. My advice is to think about how people (particularly the dev) would react to your post before pushing "POST REPLY," particularly given that the written word doesn't carry tone of voice.

It's Rich's game and he is free to do what he wants, but it's not like the tease wasn't put out there in the beginning. I admit that I was disappointed when I realized months ago that it probably won't happen. I didn't get pissed but I did stop supporting the game. Nothing against Rich. It's just that he chose a path for his game I was no longer interested in. I continue to come back on the hope that we are both wrong, and there will be more hot scenes with her beyond her and her boyfriend.
That's absolutely your right, of course. I agree that a bit of the content in the first chapter or two could definitely be considered a "tease," but there was also a big contingent of people who made the incorrect assumption that this game would be a direct translation of JohnCBB's Literotica story, as opposed to being a "based on" re-interpretation. (This has come up over and over again in this thread, despite the dev's FAQ in the OP.)

Also, there are those who make the assumption that any game/story that has a mother and son in it will always end up that way.

But please don't interpret the above as being in any way critical of your (presumed) interest in that particular genre. It is obviously a very popular one, just one that, apparently, Rich decided not to follow.
 
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Folks, please don't degenerate into any kind of flame war.
  1. Yes, perhaps I reacted a bit harshly to certain posts, but I have an unfortunate tendency to do this periodically. L.Lumpy is at least partly correct in the way that years and years of sometimes-less-than-polite posts can grate, and more than a little correct in terms of the agita that my hardware problems are causing me. I do feel a responsibility toward those who are supporting me, and am more than a little depressed at the delays this is causing.
  2. I have zero problem with people deciding that this project doesn't match their preferred kinks, and wish them well in finding a game that does. A propos #1, however, I do sometimes wish that those people would simply move on rather than feel that they just have to drop some kind of "this game sucks because it doesn't have X in it" comment into the forum. Remember Mom saying "If you can't say something nice..."?
  3. Clarifying that last sentence, I do NOT consider constructive criticism or politely phrased requests as being "not nice." However, this project is what it is, and just because something is requested (regardless of how stridently) I will not guarantee that it will appear. But given the time and energy I've put into this project, sometimes it's hard not to take some of the negative comments personally. Yes, I know, I should have thicker skin. But, at times, I don't. This i
  4. That being said, you might consider looking at this for some of the things that it isn't...
OK, that's enough on that subject. I hope all of you are finding projects on this site that please you.
 

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But please don't interpret the above as being in any way critical of your (presumed) interest in that particular genre. It is obviously a very popular one, just one that, apparently, Rich decided not to follow.
For me, this game was all about the corruption of MC's mom, which was a big part of the game - until it wasn't. At least for me, I felt that story arc got derailed rather abruptly. For what its worth, I do plan on going back once the game is complete and doing a final playthrough.
 

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For me, this game was all about the corruption of MC's mom, which was a big part of the game - until it wasn't. At least for me, I felt that story arc got derailed rather abruptly. For what its worth, I do plan on going back once the game is complete and doing a final playthrough.
I understand that. The "until it wasn't" was almost certainly due to JohnCBB punching out, leaving me high and dry as the author. Things would probably have proceeded differently had that not happened. But I can only write what I can write, if you know what I mean, and the Parker-Becky arc was the one that was "mine" to start with, so I guess you shouldn't be surprised at the shift from the original line to that one. Possibly I'll be able to do something more with Parker and Melissa in STDH.
 

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I understand that. The "until it wasn't" was almost certainly due to JohnCBB punching out, leaving me high and dry as the author. Things would probably have proceeded differently had that not happened. But I can only write what I can write, if you know what I mean, and the Parker-Becky arc was the one that was "mine" to start with, so I guess you shouldn't be surprised at the shift from the original line to that one. Possibly I'll be able to do something more with Parker and Melissa in STDH.
Yea, I assumed something like that happened. Just to be clear, I have no regrets having donated money to your SS in the past. That initial Melissa content made it worth every penny, and your graphics (poses and expressions) were a big part of that.
BTW - If Parker were to catch Melissa with one her students in STDH, I wouldn't complain.
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If you're looking for suggestions, at the top of my list would be Becky walking in on Melissa getting fucked on her teacher's desk by Carl with a couple other students ready and waiting their turn. Instead of Becky, it could be her daughter, her husband, or her boyfriend.
:love:(y) Damn great ideas. I would love something like this to happen.
 

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If you're looking for suggestions, at the top of my list would be Becky walking in on Melissa getting fucked on her teacher's desk by Carl with a couple other students ready and waiting their turn. Instead of Becky, it could be her daughter, her husband, or her boyfriend.
And maybe you could add something like this in your game “favorite son” where Mrs Chance gets caught with student in class by her daughter:love:
 
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Folks, please don't degenerate into any kind of flame war.
  1. Yes, perhaps I reacted a bit harshly to certain posts, but I have an unfortunate tendency to do this periodically. L.Lumpy is at least partly correct in the way that years and years of sometimes-less-than-polite posts can grate, and more than a little correct in terms of the agita that my hardware problems are causing me. I do feel a responsibility toward those who are supporting me, and am more than a little depressed at the delays this is causing.
  2. I have zero problem with people deciding that this project doesn't match their preferred kinks, and wish them well in finding a game that does. A propos #1, however, I do sometimes wish that those people would simply move on rather than feel that they just have to drop some kind of "this game sucks because it doesn't have X in it" comment into the forum. Remember Mom saying "If you can't say something nice..."?
  3. Clarifying that last sentence, I do NOT consider constructive criticism or politely phrased requests as being "not nice." However, this project is what it is, and just because something is requested (regardless of how stridently) I will not guarantee that it will appear. But given the time and energy I've put into this project, sometimes it's hard not to take some of the negative comments personally. Yes, I know, I should have thicker skin. But, at times, I don't. This i
  4. That being said, you might consider looking at this for some of the things that it isn't...
OK, that's enough on that subject. I hope all of you are finding projects on this site that please you.
**Lowers flamethrower**
**Slips lighter back in pocket**

As I see it, there are a couple things I need to do here. 1. Explain my careless one line comment, and, 2. Apologize.

Shit.

So, I'm a writer. I have had a fair amount of experience with both getting and giving reviews. I have also had my fair share of having my work rejected, ridiculed, and malinged, only to then have the same piece of work given major writing awards and kudos from tons of readers. It comes with the territory. I can't write to suit everybody's tastes and I know that. I tell the best story I can and understand that, when it's in the hands of my readers it becomes their story.

As such, I'm completely comfortable with hearing and giving comments like, "This part of the story feels clunky, you need more dialogue and less narrative." Or, "I hate this character, he doesn't fit and has no buiness being in this story at all." Or, even, "If X doesn't happen later in the story I'm going to be pissed." Again, it comes with the territory. If you are a creative type, you need to be prepared for critique. The good ones know that, if approached right, it can be your best tool for getting better.

So, in my one line my response, I commented briefly about plotline, character arc and my personal feelings about both. I did not address concept, writing skills, CG skills, or any other attribute of the game developer, personal or professional.

That said... I could have, and should have, been more thoughtful in making my comment. It was far too brief and did not provide any of the context that I just provided above. That's my mistake and I sincerely apologize for making it.

Before this flared up, I shared some DMs with Rich (about a completely different part of the story) and was very impressed with his openess to review and his willingess to consider other people's ideas. He is a great guy. (Actually, one of the most friendly and personable developers I've had the pleasure of visiting with here.)

If you haven't seen it yet, click on his other page, Scenes That Didn't Happen, It's the first time I've seen a developer open himself (and his story) up to allow his fans to suggest other possibilities for the story that they are all excited about.

So, tldr; I truly meant no personal disparagement with my comment and I regret that it caused any discontent and/or hubub. (Though hubub is really not all that bad it tiddies and tushies are involved. I will stand on that truth.)

Great VN Rich, as I mentioned in my more developed review on the other page, you kept me awake all one night feeling Parker's angst, Melissa's guilt, and Bill's perversion. You're talent shines throughout this effort. I'd appreciate talking with you more about your approach to scene and/or story development.

Peace
 

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So, all, I've gotten most of the various software packages I need installed on the new machine. Cranked out 15 FF&S images, which I'm waiting for the batch renderer to deal with.

Feels good to be back at it again... :) :) :)
 
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