Ren'Py Completed Family Life Unofficial Ren'Py Conversion [v1.0.0] [NightTrain]

[NightTrain]

Great job on the conversion NightTrain. I never played the original but it sounds like something I would have found horribly frustrating. I actually enjoy some grind but not being randomly locked out of stuff for no apparent reason.

I do have some questions about a couple of the stats since I'm trying to play through without using any stat cheats. Right now I'm stuck on Gina because I need 90 Handsomeness but I can't get it past 60. Strength is giving me 0 for Handsomeness and Suntan isn't giving me anything either unless I overdo it and then it's a negative amount. My strength is a bit low as I've been focusing on making money to unlock the cams and buy clothes every 2 weeks; so, is there a minimum amount your strength has to be at before adding to handsomeness?

Also, in the beach model thread, it says you need 90 power; does power equal strength?

Just had a look through the code to figure out what you need for Handsomeness.

You get 20 for bathing or swimming today, 20 if you have a dark suntan (you need to "suntan" 38 points, where you get 7 every day you suntan, but it goes down by one every day), and only 10 for a medium suntan (24 "suntan" points) or 5 for a light suntan (10 "suntan" points). You get 30 points for owning the stylish clothes (need new clothes every two weeks) and 10 points for having a haircut (need a new haircut every week). You can also get 20 points for having your strength over 80 or 10 if your strength is over 50. So, you can still get your Handsomeness over 90 with low strength, but you need your strength to be at least 50. You can also lose points if you get a sunburn (tanning twice in one day) or a bad haircut (getting your hair cut more than once in 7 days). I recommend going for a swim every day instead of taking a shower/bath. You get clean and you gain a strength point.

And, yes, power equals strength.

 

[RandMierdin]

Just had a look through the code to figure out what you need for Handsomeness.

You get 20 for bathing or swimming today, 20 if you have a dark suntan (you need to "suntan" 38 points, where you get 7 every day you suntan, but it goes down by one every day), and only 10 for a medium suntan (24 "suntan" points) or 5 for a light suntan (10 "suntan" points). You get 30 points for owning the stylish clothes (need new clothes every two weeks) and 10 points for having a haircut (need a new haircut every week). You can also get 20 points for having your strength over 80 or 10 if your strength is over 50. So, you can still get your Handsomeness over 90 with low strength, but you need your strength to be at least 50. You can also lose points if you get a sunburn (tanning twice in one day) or a bad haircut (getting your hair cut more than once in 7 days). I recommend going for a swim every day instead of taking a shower/bath. You get clean and you gain a strength point.

And, yes, power equals strength.

Thanks for explaining the suntan system. I tried getting a suntan and nothing happened so I did it again and got a burn so I rolled it back and have been ignoring it ever since. I've got a lot of work to do on strength (29 currently); I was just maintaining it at 20 to hit 60 charisma for the Foxy content. I didn't know you could get clean from swimming; I guess I'm never showering again lol.

Btw, a tip I didn't see mentioned in the thread for raising relationships: finish the family pool thread and then keep spending time at the pool with your family each day. It gives you 10 points each with Laura, Foxy and Angelica. 30 total points for one hour is amazing.

 

[NightTrain]

Good tip! This is at 17:00 on weekdays. Just remember to spend time with your family and not just with Laura, and don't waste your time spending the extra hour at the pool afterwards. Another tip is to always eat breakfast (at 9:00) and dinner (at 19:00) with your family. This is only worth 5 points each, but you have to eat twice a day anyway, and you get more full if you eat with your family.

 

[RandMierdin]

I was having trouble getting LilyCafe8 to complete but I finally figured it out. There are no requirements listed except time and day but you actually need a vibrator (the regular size not the large one).

 

[Useck]

Hi I start this game recently
I notice in thread list there is dark blue color, is this mean the thread is locked?

some thread is not triggering even though all prerequisite is done

example foxy selfie should be after foxymassage0 but its still cannot be trigger until later
did i miss something?

Answer: Silly me, You need to download the event pack to enable the content.
thanks

 

[NightTrain]

Hi I start this game recently
I notice in thread list there is dark blue color, is this mean the thread is locked?

some thread is not triggering even though all prerequisite is done

example foxy selfie should be after foxymassage0 but its still cannot be trigger until later
did i miss something?

The dark blue threads are ones that you haven't downloaded the Event Packs for yet. If you want to play these threads you'll need to download and install the three event packs given in the OP. If you have already downloaded them, make sure you put the .rpa files in the 'game' folder of the game. Once you've installed them you'll need to save and reload the game.

I have no problem triggering foxySelfie. Just go into the lounge at 18:00 the day after the first massage. However, triggering foxyMassage_0 is tricky. You actually have to give her the massage oil before you can start that thread, instead of just buying it. And the cheat system isn't very clear that you have to do that first, so maybe that's what you're talking about. But, if you have a save after finishing foxyMassage_0 but before foxySelfie_0, I can have a look to try to figure out why it isn't triggering for you. But, it may also be because you don't have Event Pack 1 installed, so the thread is in blue.

 

[NightTrain]

I was having trouble getting LilyCafe8 to complete but I finally figured it out. There are no requirements listed except time and day but you actually need a vibrator (the regular size not the large one).

Thanks for letting me know. I hadn't noticed that issue. Unfortunately, the cheat system isn't good enough to handle that situation (and there may be one or two more other cases like that, but they're very rare). This case is special because you don't need to have the vibrator to start the event, but you do need to have it to successfully finish the event. And the cheat system only knows what you need to have/do to start the events. So, I can't fix this without several months worth of work, which I'm not going to do. But I'll put a note in the FAQ in the OP.

 

[gLM4475]

Hm hm, viva Ren'Py, for providing the means for creating such games

 

[RandMierdin]

I did FoxyMast0 but I couldn't get FoxyMast1 or FoxySuck0 to activate. It turns out there were 2 things blocking me. One was I had to do FoxyPhoto8 for some reason even though those threads were mutually exclusive in the original game. The other is there appears to be a Look requirement that isn't shown on the thread board. I had haircut and bathed but needed to wash as well. I tried reloading and just doing FoxyPhoto8 or the washing but it only worked when I did both.

Another strange thing, I went to the Nanny's room to do a Photo event and got the nannySex Punish event. I don't even have the nannySex thread unlocked yet and it wasn't the right day or time either. I'm not sure what's causing it to trigger now since I got the nannyOfficeCam scene of her peeing awhile ago; it was I think the third one I got and I have 11 now.

 

[NightTrain]

I did FoxyMast0 but I couldn't get FoxyMast1 or FoxySuck0 to activate. It turns out there were 2 things blocking me. One was I had to do FoxyPhoto8 for some reason even though those threads were mutually exclusive in the original game. The other is there appears to be a Look requirement that isn't shown on the thread board. I had haircut and bathed but needed to wash as well. I tried reloading and just doing FoxyPhoto8 or the washing but it only worked when I did both.

Another strange thing, I went to the Nanny's room to do a Photo event and got the nannySex Punish event. I don't even have the nannySex thread unlocked yet and it wasn't the right day or time either. I'm not sure what's causing it to trigger now since I got the nannyOfficeCam scene of her peeing awhile ago; it was I think the third one I got and I have 11 now.

Thanks for the report, and I'm not surprised that there's a bug in there somewhere. The requirements for the "Teach Foxy" events was really convoluted in the original game, and it took me several weeks to get something similar working in the remake (while having some semblance of the hint system working for those events). There's a hidden thread 'foxyTeach' that pre-screens access to foxyMast, foxySuck, and foxyAnal and checks for the Look requirement. So, officially, you only need Look >= 80 to get the "Teach Foxy" menu selection when you talk to Foxy, not for the actual foxyMast/Suck/Anal threads. But, since the only way to access those threads is through the Teach Foxy menu selection, it's kind of a moot point. So, I've added the Look check to each of the individual events in those threads as well, but that won't show up until I have time to post the new patch.

I'm not sure about the foxyPhoto8 issue. If you've finished foxyPhoto7 then foxyPhoto8 will take precedence when you try to talk to Foxy in her bedroom, effectively blocking foxyMast, foxySuck, and foxyAnal. Could that have been the what happened in your case? Or were you blocked earlier (although it may be hard to tell if you didn't know about the look requirement)?

Regarding the nannySex_Punish event, that's a complete oversight on my part. It's been enabled for you ever since you saw the nannyOfficeCam scene, but you probably didn't enter her room at the correct time until now. Once you've seen it you don't have to worry about it triggering again (at least, not until you watch that nannyOfficeCam scene again). But, I've now put an extra check in the next patch to block it from showing up prematurely.

But, I'm not going to release the next patch until you've finished the game, because you're doing such a good job of finding the bugs!

 

[RandMierdin]

FoxyPhoto8 was actually one where you check your cameras in the office so it wasn't blocking me from talking to her. I could talk to her but the Teach Her option wouldn't show up even with 100 Look until I did FoxyPhoto8. I was wondering if the choice in FoxyPhoto7 to abort that thread or let Anton continue photographing her somehow set the state of something incorrectly temporarily blocking the other threads.

While you're fixing stuff anyways, I did notice some of the Foxy events say Dining Room at 19:00 only but can be activated later at night in her bedroom as well.

Edit: Would the NannyPeek events take precedence over the NannySex Punish event? That would explain why it took so long to activate since I just finished the NannyPeek thread.

 

[RandMierdin]

I could talk to her but the Teach Her option wouldn't show up even with 100 Look until I did FoxyPhoto8.

Ok, it looks like I was confused because the requirements say any day and any time but it's actually only certain times during the day. I tried to talk to her at 20:00 on a Sunday but didn't have the Teach Her option so I did FoxyPhoto8 instead which is the same time slot. Then I talked to her again the next time she was home at 23:00 and got the Teach Her option but it was just coincidence.

 

[NightTrain]

Ok, it looks like I was confused because the requirements say any day and any time but it's actually only certain times during the day. I tried to talk to her at 20:00 on a Sunday but didn't have the Teach Her option so I did FoxyPhoto8 instead which is the same time slot. Then I talked to her again the next time she was home at 23:00 and got the Teach Her option but it was just coincidence.

Ah, that explains it. Digging deeper, the "Teach Her" option is only available in the bathroom at 23:00 (every day), the pool at 15:00 (every day), the dining room at 19:00 (weekdays only), and her bedroom at 20:00 (weekdays only). I think if I put these conditions in place for the individual events it shouldn't break the highlighting while giving the correct times when the events are available. Thanks for helping with this!

 

[RandMierdin]

I found a small issue with highlighting. The kitchen is highlighted but there's nothing there; I believe it should be the dining room where I have a Teach Her event with Foxy available. I have a save file if that helps.

Also, just noticed the Nanny Punish event cost me 200 points with her I think I'm gonna cheat those points back since I wasn't supposed to get the event yet

 

[NightTrain]

FoxyPhoto8 was actually one where you check your cameras in the office so it wasn't blocking me from talking to her. I could talk to her but the Teach Her option wouldn't show up even with 100 Look until I did FoxyPhoto8. I was wondering if the choice in FoxyPhoto7 to abort that thread or let Anton continue photographing her somehow set the state of something incorrectly temporarily blocking the other threads.

While you're fixing stuff anyways, I did notice some of the Foxy events say Dining Room at 19:00 only but can be activated later at night in her bedroom as well.

Edit: Would the NannyPeek events take precedence over the NannySex Punish event? That would explain why it took so long to activate since I just finished the NannyPeek thread.

Yes, nannyPeek has higher precedence, so that would explain it.

I just found one issue with the foxyTeach events at 19:00. The kitchen was being highlighted but you had to talk to her in the dining room. There are some other events, though, that trigger in the kitchen at that time, and I may have messed that up. I'll look into it some more.

 

[NightTrain]

I found a small issue with highlighting. The kitchen is highlighted but there's nothing there; I believe it should be the dining room where I have a Teach Her event with Foxy available. I have a save file if that helps.

Also, just noticed the Nanny Punish event cost me 200 points with her I think I'm gonna cheat those points back since I wasn't supposed to get the event yet

Definitely cheat those points back!

 

[NightTrain]

While you're fixing stuff anyways, I did notice some of the Foxy events say Dining Room at 19:00 only but can be activated later at night in her bedroom as well.

I figured that out. It's a limitation on the hint system. When an event is available at multiple times in multiple locations (or at different times on different days), I have to specify multiple triggers for the event. The hint system isn't smart enough to combine all the possible triggers and display them in a clear and concise manner, so it just displays one. There are quite a few of those that you'll find, but at least the hint will eventually lead you to the event, even if there were more options.

 

[RandMierdin]

I'm stuck on Caprice. I finished CapriceYoga and I'm trying to do CapriceMast0. No matter what options I select it won't complete. I tried cheating all the items into my inventory but that didn't work. I tried actually gifting her some of the items but no luck. I even tried cheating my relationship points up to 2000 in case there was a second check hidden in there but nothing.

I feel like there is a dialogue option that isn't showing up. When I do the highlighted "Look for Her" option, the only option that comes up next is "Don't peep". I expect there should be an option to peep but I can't figure out how to unlock it.

 

[broken_division]

Hi there i made a compressed version of the game V1.0.0
from 9.6 GB to 4.5 GB

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have a nice one

 

[NightTrain]

I'm stuck on Caprice. I finished CapriceYoga and I'm trying to do CapriceMast0. No matter what options I select it won't complete. I tried cheating all the items into my inventory but that didn't work. I tried actually gifting her some of the items but no luck. I even tried cheating my relationship points up to 2000 in case there was a second check hidden in there but nothing.

I feel like there is a dialogue option that isn't showing up. When I do the highlighted "Look for Her" option, the only option that comes up next is "Don't peep". I expect there should be an option to peep but I can't figure out how to unlock it.

It looks like that's another event with a secret check part-way through the event to determine whether or not you can finish it or not. Basically, you have to complete capricePhoto_6 (or maybe 7) before the "Peep" option appears.