agn25

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So theres no femdom in the game?
There is here and there. But it is not the focus of the game. Monica is no dominatrix she just likes bossing people around in a totally non sexual way. Although I think a so called "pure angel" has given her a few ideas lately. There are a few female characters who love to be dominate sexually. Victoria, Claire, a clothes store clerk, a Saturday whore number 1 and the incest bait twins. But generally this is a game about the downfall of Monica through blackmail, coercion and humiliation.
 

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Just think how many posts would never had happened arguing about her asexuality..... If Monica had been an actual dominatrix in the game.:D
While we're on the subject of Monica's asexuality, I think the scene with the fucking machine in Philip's basement could have been very sexy if it wasn't a ridiculous 2 frames per second, but a full quality animation like DecentMonkey can do. I'd much more enjoy watching a soulless machine turn Monica into a normal woman who isn't ashamed of her orgasms (but isn't obsessed with sex either) than watching Fred's cocky and smug face. Also, the game completely fails to explore the topic of orgasm control/orgasm denial, which can be very sexy.
But generally this is a game about the downfall of Monica through blackmail, coercion and humiliation.
Monica had already reached the bottom of the Mariana Trench, it was time for her to start surfacing.
 
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To each his own, I guess.

I personally have no interest at all in Monica becoming "dominatrix" or Monica starting "resurfacing".

It is kind of peculiar that people in this thread were vehemently against the game becoming "a slut simulator" when Monica started to get orgasm from Fred's dick on the premise that such a development is totally against the game's concept, but are very happy of "dominatrix and resurfacing" stuff, which is also has nothing to do with the current game and why people love it.
 

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To each his own, I guess.

I personally have no interest at all in Monica becoming "dominatrix" or Monica starting "resurfacing".

It is kind of peculiar that people in this thread were vehemently against the game becoming "a slut simulator" when Monica started to get orgasm from Fred's dick on the premise that such a development is totally against the game's concept, but are very happy of "dominatrix and resurfacing" stuff, which is also has nothing to do with the current game and why people love it.
Yeah I totally agree with your sentiments in this post. I have always been in with Monica falling as far as is possible. Like you I have no interest in a dominate Monica. Her time in the sun has passed. A dominatrix Monica has never been part of the game and it never should be. I think it only came up because one new to this thread poster asked about it.
 

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Monica had already reached the bottom of the Mariana Trench, it was time for her to start surfacing.
No she hasn't. Being a slave acting as someones animal at the farm is that trench. I don't know about you but I don't really have any interest in Monica's redemption or rise back to power. I'm all in on her complete fall.
 
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No she hasn't. Being a slave acting as someones animal at the farm is that trench. I don't know about you but I don't really have any interest in Monica's redemption or rise back to power.
Totally agree. When people say that Monica has no further to fall, it sounds ridiculous.
For example, when we are talking about the falling path people should just check such hentai doujinshi as ShindoL's Henshin. I'm not saying that all that stuff should be in the game, but it certainly shows how much there is to fall.
 
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No she hasn't. Being a slave acting as someones animal at the farm is that trench. I don't know about you but I don't really have any interest in Monica's redemption or rise back to power. I'm all in on her complete fall.
I was actually initially interested in Monica going to the Farm, if you look at the number of my posts where I mention the Farm, it all falls into place. The same goes for Monica's slavery to Philip, the number of my posts about that is off the charts too, so you don't need to convince me that Monica shouldn't fall further. The only thing I disagree with (and it's a fundamental disagreement) is that Monica shouldn't get a chance to atone for her sins. As I've written repeatedly, let's have 7 bad endings, including The Farm, but there should be at least one good one, otherwise why introduce a decency system if there's only going to be one ending anyway?

And by the way, I want to remind you of your own post where you describe Monica's possible life on the Farm. And there you were not so categorical about her fate. Re-read it again, especially the last sentence of your post. ;) By the way, I still think that this is the perfect scheme for Monica getting to the Farm before the end of ep4. It's a shame it won't happen.

p.s. And as for someone thinking that everyone is excited about Monica's possible role as a dominatrix, that's a personal problem of those people not being able to understand the context of the discussion and how this thread was born in the first place. But you got that point right by mentioning it in your post.
 

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Totally agree. When people say that Monica has no further to fall, it sounds ridiculous.
For example, when we are talking about the falling path people should just check such hentai doujinshi as ShindoL's Henshin. I'm not saying that all that stuff should be in the game, but it certainly shows how much there is to fall.
I haven't heard too many claiming Monica has no further to fall. I'm sure Stan5851 will clarify his position more clearly soon.:)
LOL. He already did before I finished this post. Thanks Stan5851:D
 

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Anyway the main problem - there is no continuation of Farm content at all. Main quest now is searching for husband. Marcus mentioned in 2-3 updates only in way then Monicaor Mel should smith nasty and only thoughts of Marcus make them more cooperate.
Main antagonist of the game have too little content.
 
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agn25

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I was actually initially interested in Monica going to the Farm, if you look at the number of my posts where I mention the Farm, it all falls into place. The same goes for Monica's slavery to Philip, the number of my posts about that is off the charts too, so you don't need to convince me that Monica shouldn't fall further. The only thing I disagree with (and it's a fundamental disagreement) is that Monica shouldn't get a chance to atone for her sins. As I've written repeatedly, let's have 7 bad endings, including The Farm, but there should be at least one good one, otherwise why introduce a decency system if there's only going to be one ending anyway?

And by the way, I want to remind you of your own post where you describe Monica's possible life on the Farm. And there you were not so categorical about her fate. Re-read it again, especially the last sentence of your post. ;) By the way, I still think that this is the perfect scheme for Monica getting to the Farm before the end of ep4. It's a shame it won't happen.

p.s. And as for someone thinking that everyone is excited about Monica's possible role as a dominatrix, that's a personal problem of those people not being able to understand the context of the discussion and how this thread was born in the first place. But you got that point right by mentioning it in your post.
Yes of coarse I'm in for good and bad endings. Nothing has changed there. I was just referring to what will be my personal canon ending for our girl. You did sound like Monica had no more to fall in the post I quoted but all is clear now.

P.S Yeah I think my version of ep4 would have been much more interesting.;)
 

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Regarding Monica's further downfall. In v3 we've already been shown what fate awaits Monica if she chooses a career as a porn actress (although knowing DM, it's unlikely anyone will ask her permission). I know a lot of people have been waiting for this, and while I'm more into BDSM themes, bondage and hardcore domination over Monica and Melanie rather than just hardcore sex ala LegalPorno, I can understand these people's desires. Well, all of these players have waited (well, or almost waited) for theirs. Obviously, in future versions of the game, everything (and maybe even more) that we were shown at the v3 porn castings will be waiting for Monica herself.

But we have what we have, and the more common fetishes (like group sex) will, (unfortunately for me), always prevail over the less popular ones (like BDSM). One medium-term wish I have for the last two updates of FB - I really want future Basement quests to be at least as tough/hardcore as Day 0 and Day 1 quests was, and I really don't want to feed and water Monica with high-end champagne and super-expensive cheesecake again.) More filth, more domination, more red asses with bloody undercurrents and less vanilla and pink snot is what Phillip's Basement needs right now. Well, the rest of it, I think DecentMonkey has thought of and written it long ago.
 
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Anyway the main problem - there is no continuation of Farm content at all. Main quest now is searching for husband. Marcus mentioned in 2-3 updates only in way then Monicaor Mel should smith nasty and only thoughts of Marcus make them more cooperate.
Main antagonist of the game have too little content.
You're right, this is a big problem, and it's very unfortunate. Ep2 aside, we only have 1 event in ep3 (Marcus + Farm owners), which is criminally low. By all laws of in-game time, a month should have passed by now and Monica should have returned to the Farm. Okay, let it be just another training session at the Farm and in relatively comfortable conditions for Monica, but at least make it happen. If DM wanted to build up Marcus' romantic BDSM storyline as originally planned, with Monica's personal training at Marcus' place and her subsequent transformation into his obedient personal slave wife, there's very little time left for that either. And yes, I also can't explain why such an interesting and iconic character like Marcus is so underrepresented in our game.
 
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To each his own, I guess.

I personally have no interest at all in Monica becoming "dominatrix" or Monica starting "resurfacing".

It is kind of peculiar that people in this thread were vehemently against the game becoming "a slut simulator" when Monica started to get orgasm from Fred's dick on the premise that such a development is totally against the game's concept, but are very happy of "dominatrix and resurfacing" stuff, which is also has nothing to do with the current game and why people love it.
Correct to each their own. I wouldn't like either path as an absolute. Monica is quite deserving as to some of the shit people are coercing her to do as she was a horrid person initially. However you can only play a kicked around slut door mat for so long before it gets tiring as well. I prefer the concept of multiple paths where you can explore your own kink, If you prefer her to remain an alcoholic prostitute in the slums there is a path, if you prefer her to go back to being the Monica of old and a complete bitch to everyone there should be a path. I land in the middle as to her having learned a lot about herself and isn't a slut doormat or a Dom bitch, but an all around decent person. A bit of a Hollywood happy ending I know but I don't like the other choices as an absolute.
 
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