User #1751331

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I wonder why you still spend so much time in writing posts here. As you said, you deleted the game, you skipped the text and just watched the CG's because it isn't worth reading it in your eyes. Well, that's ok, it's your opinion, you can have it.

But don't forget, you complain about nearly everything in the game, but play it for free. DecentMonkey spends nearly all of his time for this project, he works very hard all day long. Besides you, 1.1k patrons appreciate his work. Not only because of the high quality renders and the outstanding love for details (just one example, have a look at Monicas finger nails or the posters and plates in the Shiny Hole), but also because of the story. English is not native language of the dev, but native speakers help him now, as for me, I help him in doing the german translation. English also isn't my native language, but it may be ok for 6th grade in your educational system. ;)

FB is an adult game, it's not a novel written to achieve the nobel price in literature. Me and most patrons (who pay for the game and have one or two more rights when it comes to complaining), would not play the game if it was like you described it has to be. A totally realistic game could be fun, but not in the FB universe. The dev plays with emotions, he loves exaggerations and creates an alternative world. That's why we play and love the game. Of course, not everybody does or will like it. But nobody forces you to enjoy or play it. But please realise that the game will not be written as you say here it should be written. You are absolutely free to create your own game. In it, you can do whatever you want, you can write it as you wish to. When you then have 1k patrons, we can talk again about this issue. ;)
First, who said I played the free version?
My profile here is strictly for this site. I don't use it any other place. That includes email and so on. Yea, I like my privacy.

His ability to speak or write English or the translation aren't the issue.

I don't remember complaining about his artistic ability in fact it is the one area I gave him credit on.

How about we just focus on the actual complain I have. Summarized.
That being that the method he use (to excess) doesn't fit the character or situation design of the story he introduced in EP1.
1. The character he built in EP1 isn't that likely to get their feathers ruffled easily.
2. He over uses Monica panicking to explain her going along with stuff. In fact don't think he uses anything else. at all. The only content I haven't seen is this release.
3. Monica is made more into a victim in EP2 than someone I want to hate or watch fall down.
4. That's compounded by being able to go from EP1 to EP2 only done one bad thing and still being shown as a "Decent Girl".
 

Rythan25

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Can anyone answer me a quick question, or questions ?

1. Is the shitty Marcus path "mandatory" for the revenge path to start ? Meaning do I have to go visit the jail once again as Melanie suggested and have Monica get pee'd on, just to start the revenge path ?

2. Is the revenge path where she will once again rise to power and hopefully destroy Marcus, and the rest of the shitty people, or is it revenge against Bardie and his Stepmom only ?
 

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If you want to enter into a discussion with someone, then you need to start with something like this. And not with accusations of stupidity and incompetence. ;)

In my opinion, it's not correct to judge by IQ only. There is also something like "social IQ".
And the last one is much more important for the same CEO, whose work you like to talk about ;)

Obviously, Monica could solve most of her problems by just visiting the rich club and meet some rich guy.
But it means she must obey him and acknowledge his supremacy.

Monica is far from a fool, but her extreme emotionality prevents her from making the right decisions. And she loved by many because of that ;)

Her peculiarity is that she cannot accept a relationship with a man other than with her dominance.
She may have forced sex, but internally she does not accept it.

The player affects her perception and Monica may change over time or not

This game is about emotions. And these emotions deeply affected you ;)
IQ, EQ, SQ:
People who make it into CEO positions tend to have higher SQ and lower EQ. They can communicate and work with others well just don't always related as well. It's why you find a lot of sociopaths in those positions. They are great at manipulating and using others and so on and tend to have an emotional disconnect.

That's part of why I am saying your portrayal of her is wrong. If she was the way you are portraying her in EP2 corporate world would have eaten her alive.

You are correct I could have started the conversation better. I think though I got more irritated as people blindly attempted to defend the issue with stupid reasoning such as it's fantasy...

You didn't describe her relationship with her husband this way, "Her peculiarity is that she cannot accept a relationship with a man other than with her dominance. She may have forced sex, but internally she does not accept it."

Victim vs Villain
None of what you said addresses the issue of you making her more into a Victim rather than a villain we want to watch fall down. Truthfully the Villain in the comedy the Villain is more Villainous than she is in EP2.
 
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User #1751331

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Can anyone answer me a quick question, or questions ?

1. Is the shitty Marcus path "mandatory" for the revenge path to start ? Meaning do I have to go visit the jail once again as Melanie suggested and have Monica get pee'd on, just to start the revenge path ?

2. Is the revenge path where she will once again rise to power and hopefully destroy Marcus, and the rest of the shitty people, or is it revenge against Bardie and his Stepmom only ?
Yes, it is necessary. It's the only path to EP2.
No, she doesn't get revenge not unless the author builds an added path in later. It's supposed to be a story of her downfall.
But it plays more like a story of victimization. I say that because she becomes nothing more than a victim in EP2 to everyone else that wants a piece of her.

You can get to EP2 by only doing one bad/mean thing and she will still be labeled a decent girl. when it comes to her temperament.

She doesn't act in a manor in EP2 where you actually want to see her fail either. Like I said above it's just other people victimizing her.
 

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tacm:

For someone claiming to "sit on a few boards and chair two," which would imply a really, really busy lifestyle, you do have plenty of time on your hands.

You don't like this game, that's fine. I have no problems with it. As I always say, "Different folks, different strokes." Ten people may like ten different things. You don't have to like this game. There were games I started out liking, but for various reasons, I ended up quitting on, although mainly because I didn't like the direction the story was headed. What did I do? I simply stopped visiting those threads and playing those games. Deleted from my system, too, just like you deleted this game from yours.

This developer's not going to retrace his steps for you. He's not going to communicate with you in private and say, "Alright, how do we do this?" and rewrite the entire game while you dictate the story. So, I fail to understand what your sticking around in this thread and constantly ranting and raving about how shitty and illogical this game is is going to achieve. We get it. You don't like the game. You've made that clear about a gazillion times already. So, could you, please, see yourself out? Every time I visit this thread, hoping for a spoiler or an update on the game, all I see is long, long lines of rants and raves from you. It's getting super annoying, to be frank.
https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-2-v0-9-fix2-decentmonkey.11501/post-2809074

If I thought this developer wouldn't listen at all I wouldn't even bothered posting.
He has responded and entered in the conversation.

He might not make any changes that's up to him.
Doing so wouldn't require making changes to his artwork though.
That said making a few changes in the dialog would open up a lot more options for him.
It would also mean Monica wouldn't just be a Victim in EP2 but could be made into the character you want to see fail where at the end of it you go yea she got what was coming her.

Also do you give advice to people you want to see fail?

As to your first comment, some people know how to multitask. I sleep about 4 to 5 hours a day. I generally eat in my office and so on unless I have a meeting... I'm also not sitting on a fortune 500 company either. The one's I know personally that do are more busy than I am often.
 
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SteelyDan14

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I love the game, but it's a tad buggy. For Ep2 I used Unren just so I could scroll backwards and it totally crapped out the game. I also tried to save the game at the stage area (which I had done previously) but when I went to reload it, it to me to a point several days in the past.

Other times, I have tried rolling back and it shoots me back to her room. I ended up deleting everything, no Unren and starting over. So far it's stable... I am not sure what you are doing for Rollback to cause such chaos, but that is a pretty basic feature of Ren'py.

Anything you can do would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the hard work.
 

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About when will the next version be released and what would it have??
V09 was released in the beginning of this month, so, v10 will take some time to be finished. Calculate with end of January, beginning of February. It will contain again a ton of new renders, new story and (as the dev told us in his poll at patreon) the beginning of the hotel escort path. I don't want to give more spoilers now, it's still too early. :)
 
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Can anyone answer me a quick question, or questions ?

1. Is the shitty Marcus path "mandatory" for the revenge path to start ? Meaning do I have to go visit the jail once again as Melanie suggested and have Monica get pee'd on, just to start the revenge path ?

2. Is the revenge path where she will once again rise to power and hopefully destroy Marcus, and the rest of the shitty people, or is it revenge against Bardie and his Stepmom only ?
1. You need to do the Marcus path to start the revenge story line, yes. Marcus will "give" Monica an anal plug, this is the key item to start this path. But if you do so, make a save file before, because when you start the revenge path, all others options are closed.
2. The revenge path is set up to take a completely different branch, that's why all others paths are closed in it. Anyway, it's not a short path (so the plan). Monica will need some time here. The intention is to gain (nearly) everything back here. But this path only started in v09, so there is a lot to come in future updates.
 

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V09 was released in the beginning of this month, so, v10 will take some time to be finished. Calculate with end of January, beginning of February. It will contain again a ton of new renders, new story and (as the dev told us in his poll at patreon) the beginning of the hotel escort path. I don't want to give more spoilers now, it's still too early. :)
really excited. keep up the great work
 
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V09 was released in the beginning of this month, so, v10 will take some time to be finished. Calculate with end of January, beginning of February. It will contain again a ton of new renders, new story and (as the dev told us in his poll at patreon) the beginning of the hotel escort path. I don't want to give more spoilers now, it's still too early. :)
Beginning of February? Man, that's a long, long way away. I hope it's worth the wait. Just keep us updated with spoilers.

I like the sound of "beginning of the hotel escort path." I hope, though, whoever hires Monica's services doesn't do so to simply look at her tits, but to actually fuck her. The start of Monica's pounding has been long overdue. Please do not disappoint us this time around. And, yes, progression in the Shiny Hole (nude, without the mask, on the pole and/or topless waitressing) will be welcome, too. As would be advancement in the slums.
 
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Beginning of February? Man, that's a long, long way away. I hope it's worth the wait. Just keep us updated with spoilers.

I like the sound of "beginning of the hotel escort path." I hope, though, whoever hires Monica's services doesn't do so to simply look at her tits, but to actually fuck her. The start of Monica's pounding has been long overdue. Please do not disappoint us this time around. And, yes, progression in the Shiny Hole (nude, without the mask, on the pole and/or topless waitressing) will be welcome, too. As would be advancement in the slums.
Just wait for the official spoilers the dev will share with us. :)
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