vicaddict

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Originally the various skills and traits from the prologue would send you down differing branches in the main game but it already seems like a struggle for Crush to write this thing without branching. I think he'd be mad to try to tie it all together before finishing the main story
He can't even get multiple nationalities working. This game has been around for years and in the beginning there were more options hinted at and never got that one done. And that barely requires any branching. It's basically just a different start until you end up in Scotland for the training sessions.

Imagine if he had to deal with a semi-open world thing that he was promising at one point.
 

JustForPorn12

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lol, this is such a weird update.
freaking out about giving a blowie when Connor has already fucked you...4-5 times at this point, once even taking you to the back with the rest of the prostitutes, is just weird. Especially since it's already established you have free reign to fuck anyone for anything if it helps the mission...she should have already had this moment of panic and worked through it by now many times over.
this scene would make far more sense if it played out during the first scene with Connor, when he takes you back to his place.
I'v always felt like it jumps to him fucking you far too fast, would make more sense as a blowjob/facefuck, Connor seems smart enough to not scare chicks off by moving too fast. He would definitely push for sex intitially, on the off-chance the girl is desperate enough to fuck him, but if she resists he'd go with some manner of "whatever bitch, i'll be balls deep in you eventually anyway. suck me off instead then"
 

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Choices and dice roles don't really affect anything in this game, right now... I think...
A couple of choices you get to make can enable/disable some extra scenes (like a yoga session with bargirls, or some side activities down the road which have yet to be added) but that's about it.
 
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Mwanted

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lol, this is such a weird update.
freaking out about giving a blowie when Connor has already fucked you...4-5 times at this point, once even taking you to the back with the rest of the prostitutes, is just weird. Especially since it's already established you have free reign to fuck anyone for anything if it helps the mission...she should have already had this moment of panic and worked through it by now many times over.
this scene would make far more sense if it played out during the first scene with Connor, when he takes you back to his place.
I'v always felt like it jumps to him fucking you far too fast, would make more sense as a blowjob/facefuck, Connor seems smart enough to not scare chicks off by moving too fast. He would definitely push for sex intitially, on the off-chance the girl is desperate enough to fuck him, but if she resists he'd go with some manner of "whatever bitch, i'll be balls deep in you eventually anyway. suck me off instead then"
Other than him being bad at writing, it's probably for the same reason he went back and modified the original scene with the drug dealer: some people whined\complained (for example the guy that complained about her being "too sexual" :rolleyes: a few posts back), he bent over, he made the scene "avoidable".. and now you have this scene where she freaks out for no rational reason. He's probably on the process of breaking maybe the only interesting part of this game, but no surprise there .
 

JoshuaTree89

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Honestly, while I was bothered by the update's content at first (for the reasons I and others stated, seems out of left field) I think the second, polished version which included choices about internal dialogue handling why the beejay was hitting her hard, as well as the other new scene involving yoga in the park, did a lot to redeem what was there for me. There's still the issue of whether the content was enough to justify the time to produce, but I thought what wound up in the final version, was good.
 
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berny

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Honestly, while I was bothered by the update's content at first (for the reasons I and others stated, seems out of left field) I think the second, polished version which included choices about internal dialogue handling why the beejay was hitting her hard, as well as the other new scene involving yoga in the park, did a lot to redeem what was there for me. There's still the issue of whether the content was enough to justify the time to produce, but I thought what wound up in the final version, was good.
I haven't played the other version, but imo this sounds like applying a bandage to a broken bone. It might look less scary, but ultimately it won't fix anything.

Unless he stops making each update isolated from the others (right know this is barely a game but rather a series of independent scenes), it is only a matter of time until something like that happens again. He needs to introduce some variables (like slutiness) and make them actually change something over the course of the game and not just the next few sentences or outright say that this isn't a game and admit that your "choices" don't mean anything so people know what to expect.
 
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Has anyone got a save before the yoga scene? I didn't take the yoga option on the birthday weekend update and can't be arsed playing through from there just to see it
 

vicaddict

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Unless he stops making each update isolated from the others (right know this is barely a game but rather a series of independent scenes), it is only a matter of time until something like that happens again. He needs to introduce some variables (like slutiness) and make them actually change something over the course of the game and not just the next few sentences or outright say that this isn't a game and admit that your "choices" don't mean anything so people know what to expect.
Isolating the episodes really is part of the bigger problem. The fact that he introduced working titles/episode titles for the updates kind of tells you where is mindset is. He is writing chapters for a book, not scenes for a game that is supposed to be multiple choice, choice based or whatever you want to call it.

As far as the variables go, I don't think he needs to introduce anything at this point. There are plenty of stats and skills in the game. He never uses them. That is the issue. There is one mechanic, apart from the kinks, that has been there from the beginning and that is the "XYZ liked/disliked your answer" thing. Except it never does anything. Never did and with how linear the story is, I can't see it ever having an impact, because what would it change? Would it lock you out of content? Shitstorm incoming. Everything else has been introduced, because he liked the idea, but never did anything with outside the introduction of said mechanic.

Would it make sense to introduce variables like sluttiness, corruption, etc? Yes. Much more than having skills like motorbike experience, or piano lessons. But that would require him to write different scenes multiple times, because the outcome should be different based on certain combinations. Can you imagine how long it would take him? Also it would require planning ahead. Need I say more?
 

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There is one mechanic, apart from the kinks, that has been there from the beginning and that is the "XYZ liked/disliked your answer" thing. Except it never does anything. Never did and with how linear the story is, I can't see it ever having an impact, because what would it change? Would it lock you out of content? Shitstorm incoming. Everything else has been introduced, because he liked the idea, but never did anything with outside the introduction of said mechanic.
It's not an actual mechanic. If you look at the code, it's just him putting in the red/green color and saying someone (dis)liked a response. It doesn't change a variable or get saved for future use; it's just flavor text.
 

berny

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Isolating the episodes really is part of the bigger problem. The fact that he introduced working titles/episode titles for the updates kind of tells you where is mindset is. He is writing chapters for a book, not scenes for a game that is supposed to be multiple choice, choice based or whatever you want to call it.

As far as the variables go, I don't think he needs to introduce anything at this point. There are plenty of stats and skills in the game. He never uses them. That is the issue. There is one mechanic, apart from the kinks, that has been there from the beginning and that is the "XYZ liked/disliked your answer" thing. Except it never does anything. Never did and with how linear the story is, I can't see it ever having an impact, because what would it change? Would it lock you out of content? Shitstorm incoming. Everything else has been introduced, because he liked the idea, but never did anything with outside the introduction of said mechanic.

Would it make sense to introduce variables like sluttiness, corruption, etc? Yes. Much more than having skills like motorbike experience, or piano lessons. But that would require him to write different scenes multiple times, because the outcome should be different based on certain combinations. Can you imagine how long it would take him? Also it would require planning ahead. Need I say more?
No, I don't see it happening either. I have zero expectations for this game.

This (or anything really that connects the different episodes) is just something that imo would be essential to make this feel more like a game rather than a mere listing of isolated scenes that happen to have the same people in it.
 
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ffive

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It's not an actual mechanic. If you look at the code, it's just him putting in the red/green color and saying someone (dis)liked a response. It doesn't change a variable or get saved for future use; it's just flavor text.
To be exact, there's couple instances early on where the game also tries to alter a field for given character which is supposed to accumulate these instances. Except it's bugged (the field is never initialized so it's NAN and trying to add/subtract from it fails), most of the character objects don't even have this field, and very shortly any such attempts stop altogether. Impossible to say if it was put off "to be implemented later, i.e. never" or dropped for good.
 

vicaddict

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It's not an actual mechanic. If you look at the code, it's just him putting in the red/green color and saying someone (dis)liked a response. It doesn't change a variable or get saved for future use; it's just flavor text.
Seriously? I was always under the impression that there is hidden counter for whatever like/dislike system he was using. Now you're telling me that it doesn't even have that? Seriously? Jesus effing Christ.

Are we actually sure he is writing anything and he isn't just copying someone else's porn novel?
 

Hugh_Mongous

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Why are y'all so negative? Not like it's the only porn game out there...

I've been playing the earlier version, with the old engine, and learned that there's a whole bunch of content out there if you make your agent older, and there's a difference whether you choose to be an analyst or a field operative. I wonder how different the experience would be if you choose non US background. What the CIA fieldwork would be replaced with.

In general there are many unused skills and despite the dice rolls it all kinda leads to the sample place, but the way I see it, it can turn out into something like a D&D book? Where each choice leads to page whatever. Only just now (in the newest version at least), it's either comply or quit. I think that once workflow and the framework is all fleshed out, the various game chapters(?) will be relatively easy to stitch together.

The site says they're working on the optional quest with the Russian guy. Might be interesting... I'm more curious to know at what stage the agent will encounter the Italian guys (she can meet at the hostel) again. Would be an interesting read if they visit her at work and recognize her.

I wish the game had more options for day to day clothing, instead of it only being available for dates... I also wonder whether the game can be less linear with its schedule. Something like you choosing where and when to go at your discretion.
 
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Why are y'all so negative? Not like it's the only porn game out there...

I've been playing the earlier version, with the old engine, and learned that there's a whole bunch of content out there if you make your agent older, and there's a difference whether you choose to be an analyst or a field operative. I wonder how different the experience would be if you choose non US background. What the CIA fieldwork would be replaced with.

In general there are many unused skills and despite the dice rolls it all kinda leads to the sample place, but the way I see it, it can turn out into something like a D&D book? Where each choice leads to page whatever. Only just now (in the newest version at least), it's either comply or quit. I think that once workflow and the framework is all fleshed out, the various game chapters(?) will be relatively easy to stitch together.

The site says they're working on the optional quest with the Russian guy. Might be interesting... I'm more curious to know at what stage the agent will encounter the Italian guys (she can meet at the hostel) again. Would be an interesting read if they visit her at work and recognize her.

I wish the game had more options for day to day clothing, instead of it only being available for dates... I also wonder whether the game can be less linear with its schedule. Something like you choosing where and when to go at your discretion.
It's weird how you said we're being too negative, then listed a bunch of flaws with the "game" that are similar to the ones many of us list. The only difference is that you seem to be under the impression that these flaws will get fixed someday.
 

Hugh_Mongous

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It's weird how you said we're being too negative, then listed a bunch of flaws with the "game" that are similar to the ones many of us list. The only difference is that you seem to be under the impression that these flaws will get fixed someday.
I guess I'm just an optimist. I just discovered the game recently, and haven't been following its development cycle for long enough to become disappointed.

Do you happen to know how can one edit or modify stuff in the game? Any special tools necessary?
 
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