HTML Abandoned Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]

[asdfasdf12341234ACSACA]

Isn't it pretty clear that his strong point is sales? If there's one thing you genuinely cannot fault him, is that. He is fantastic at getting people to "invest" into a subpar product.

 

[Tallyhoe]

I think he put more time and effort to write these 'it doesn't feel right but it will come out soon I only have a few things to do' update log than the actual game.

 

[Davkin]

At this pace, assuming this game doesn't become abandoned, The Wind of Winter might be out before this game develop any significant plot progress.

 

[restlez]

At this pace, assuming this game doesn't become abandoned, The Wind of Winter might be out before this game develop any significant plot progress.

€6,021/month reason assures it won't get "abandoned".

It's not just developers... it's patreons who keep throwing their money on people like Crush and so many others.

Maybe he has a lot of supporters on the lowest tiers that don't feel the pinch of the cost of one coffee per month.

 

[bllx]

I can name at least two developers on this site that are (or were) releasing monthly updates for their games and have been doing that for 4+ years before they slowed it down to bi-monthly updates... one of them doing an RPGM text based game and the other doing Ren'py fully 3D art one. Not to mention that I can think of one who releases game with 3D animations on bi-weekly schedule (every 2nd and 15th of the month). Granted, I think that one finished most of the game before starting to release it considering his (or hers) 3rd game is not yet fully complete but he (or she) already started working on 4th game...

And all of those developers have a whole lot more content in their releases then Crush have in his.


No, 3 months update schedule for a text base game is not reasonable or acceptable. Especially not for a game with next to no art. For a game like this, 2 months would be pushing it to the point of it being unacceptable. And we're now at 4 months and it will most likely be 5 before next update gets released...


For amount of content Crush releases... yeah, a month is reasonable. As I said, I can name at least three games that have or had at most monthly releases while still adding more new content than Crush does.


Yeah, at this point it should be pretty clear that Crush doesn't have a plan for what to do with the game... or what direction he want the game to go.

could you give me the names of the games? don't trying to sound passive-aggressive, I just don't play many games on this site

 

[Breezerr]

reminder this guy earns €6,021/month

you can hire at least 2 people to work 40 hours a week on this game.

I won't defend him because It's definitely a lot of cash, and he is delivering not nearly enough for it, but I think you have miscalculated it. He still needs to pay taxes. Considering he keeps a decent amount for himself, and also considering he isn't some crappy employer who pays minimum wage, his Patreon income isn't really that much.

 

[Takkatakka]

I won't defend him because It's definitely a lot of cash, and he is delivering not nearly enough for it, but I think you have miscalculated it. He still needs to pay taxes. Considering he keeps a decent amount for himself, and also considering he isn't some crappy employer who pays minimum wage, his Patreon income isn't really that much.

He also has to pay Patreon from that, I think. So he probably won't even see half of the money after taxes and Patreon. I mean...depending on where you life that is still a decent amount, but he doesn't go home with 6k each month.

 

[rbx4]

I'm not defending anything, but I will say that customer engagement takes time, effort, and energy. If we're looking for what Crush is good at, it's customer engagement. It might not be his actual time sink, however (nobody is revealing that, although a hint drops occasionally).

 

[asdfasdf12341234ACSACA]

I won't defend him because It's definitely a lot of cash, and he is delivering not nearly enough for it, but I think you have miscalculated it. He still needs to pay taxes. Considering he keeps a decent amount for himself, and also considering he isn't some crappy employer who pays minimum wage, his Patreon income isn't really that much.

Every job needs to pay taxes. Every job tells you the amount that you'll earn before taxes. I don't know why that needs to be different here.

 

[Takkatakka]

Every job needs to pay taxes. Every job tells you the amount that you'll earn before taxes. I don't know why that needs to be different here.

Because he is self-employed. So depending on where you live that can make a big difference in a lot of terms compared to someone just being employed at a company.

 

[I-No]

reminder this guy earns €6,021/month

It's not easy to get this kind of money via Patreon & Co. - feel free to try! And as much as I hate Crush's embarrassingly slow update cycle - just like everyone does - in fact I am afraid only his patreons are entitled to complain. It's their money and therefore it's their descision. If those guys are ok with Crush's approach why should he change anything? If he manages to keep his patreons happy and ready to pay for his work then he's probably doing something right, isn't he?

 

[yoloman12]

I won't defend him because It's definitely a lot of cash, and he is delivering not nearly enough for it, but I think you have miscalculated it. He still needs to pay taxes. Considering he keeps a decent amount for himself, and also considering he isn't some crappy employer who pays minimum wage, his Patreon income isn't really that much.

even if he has to pay 3000 on taxes then he still earns more than the average person that has a normal job.
and if he earns to little to pay wages for workers. then he needs to work harder because if this is the amount of updates what is equal to 3 months of payments from patreon(or more)than i find it a scam but that is just an opinion of a guy that really works 60 hours a week.

 

[asdfasdf12341234ACSACA]

Because he is self-employed. So depending on where you live that can make a big difference in a lot of terms compared to someone just being employed at a company.

Yeah, and depending on his personal life (married, children, disability, properties he owns and an obnoxious amount of conditions) or if he's using a company to pay himself he may have to pay even less taxes or significantly more. It doesn't change the fact that every job needs to pay taxes, and that, when someone says "I get paid 72k every year" we all know you don't end up with 72k in your bank account.

 

[Breezerr]

even if he has to pay 3000 on taxes then he still earns more than the average person that has a normal job.
and if he earns to little to pay wages for workers. then he needs to work harder because if this is the amount of updates what is equal to 3 months of payments from patreon(or more)than i find it a scam but that is just an opinion of a guy that really works 60 hours a week.

But that wasn't my point. I explicitly stated that he earns a lot of money and that his work isn't enough. My only point was, that your quoted statement about 2 full time employees isn't reasonable.

 

[Takkatakka]

But that wasn't my point. I explicitly stated that he earns a lot of money and that his work isn't enough. My only point was, that your quoted statement about 2 full time employees isn't reasonable.

I mean...he technically earns the money he earns. Patreon is in some ways the purest form of capitalism and people can pay him as long and as much as they think his work is worth to them. And while you might think it takes him too much time (and I would actually agree with that assessment) others apparently don't.

 

[Derrida]

People can spend their money however they like, of course. But I can also be amused by the mass self-delusion of the faithful on his discord who find it creditable that crush is really staring at one sentence for hours on end -- which his stated hours and eventual word count would imply. He's so obviously lying (and perhaps lying to himself in the process) about the amount of work he does. Just the merest contact with the real world and the amount of writing, some of it of very high quality, that writers produce for columns, novels, newsletters and substacks, often on a weekly basis, reveals the simple truth: the work arrives at this pace because he wants it to, he very obviously gets something out of it, which is a decent sum of money per month for work he can interminably stretch out because he is paid either way, whether he releases something or not. His weekly updates read to me like an attempt to massage the gap in the minds of his patreons between the fantasy crush, editing away for grueling 11hr day after day, and the real crush who dawdles and dallies and does whatever he feels like on many days.

 

[FromLv]

People can spend their money however they like, of course. But I can also be amused by the mass self-delusion of the faithful on his discord who find it creditable that crush is really staring at one sentence for hours on end -- which his stated hours and eventual word count would imply. He's so obviously lying (and perhaps lying to himself in the process) about the amount of work he does. Just the merest contact with the real world and the amount of writing, some of it of very high quality, that writers produce for columns, novels, newsletters and substacks, often on a weekly basis, reveals the simple truth: the work arrives at this pace because he wants it to, he very obviously gets something out of it, which is a decent sum of money per month for work he can interminably stretch out because he is paid either way, whether he releases something or not. His weekly updates read to me like an attempt to massage the gap in the minds of his patreons between the fantasy crush, editing away for grueling 11hr day after day, and the real crush who dawdles and dallies and does whatever he feels like on many days.

You can actually watch crush working on FA in real time (If you are high enough patreon) at least while he is working on slides in google doc. And let me tell you the man can work on single pasage for hours like changing words around writing and rewriting a single sentence till he is satisfied with it apparently. Ofc there are long pauses between the edits most likely he is mulling over it. So yeah i don't find it difficult to believe that it is taking him so long to fine tune some of the scenes its just the way he creates. As far as I am concerned as long as he provides top quality content time is not an issue and so far he has not disapointed me so I keep supporting him.

 

[Deleted member 14950]

He took Hemingway's "Only kind of writing is rewriting" too literally.

 

[MrAnarchy]

People can spend their money however they like, of course. But I can also be amused by the mass self-delusion of the faithful on his discord who find it creditable that crush is really staring at one sentence for hours on end -- which his stated hours and eventual word count would imply. He's so obviously lying (and perhaps lying to himself in the process) about the amount of work he does. Just the merest contact with the real world and the amount of writing, some of it of very high quality, that writers produce for columns, novels, newsletters and substacks, often on a weekly basis, reveals the simple truth: the work arrives at this pace because he wants it to, he very obviously gets something out of it, which is a decent sum of money per month for work he can interminably stretch out because he is paid either way, whether he releases something or not. His weekly updates read to me like an attempt to massage the gap in the minds of his patreons between the fantasy crush, editing away for grueling 11hr day after day, and the real crush who dawdles and dallies and does whatever he feels like on many days.

His discord is nothing but sycophantic enablers who continue to coddle him and refuse to hold any accountability or complaint.

 

[Taxeiraki]

The game is fun and sexy. I honestly enjoy every update and can't wait for the next one.

But the developer is a milker, nothing more, nothing less. I think nobody can discuss that.