Money more than likely. But if we were to assume the creator was being malicious, then constant creative directional changes is also a factor.
I think you are right about the constant creative changes. He is a perfectionist but lacks the skill to make it right, so then he throws away what he previously did but makes it worse.
Look at the avatar system. It was REALLY good, but said it was to time consuming to make new clothing. So he rebooted it, and made it worse. He could have... just stopped making new clothing or just done less of it. Nope lost 6 months to a year rebooting something that didn't need to be changed.
I don't think he is a scammer. He just is a horrible manager and makes poor decisions on what to spend his time on. He is trying, but always misidentifies the problem. People complain about episodes take to long to come out, so he released one quickly but now it's to short. His productivity is the problem, which could be supplemented with hiring employees to help... but he doesn't want to do that.
People just need to accept that this is a linear corruption game that has updates that are really slow. Probably best to not support him until Crush changes, which is not likely...
Is the writing being assisted/augmented/generated using ChatGPT now? Nobody uses the word "derriere" except ChatGPT in porn mode, as it comes up with any euphemism possible to avoid using lewd language, unless specifically instructed to do so with a word that is also a euphemism.
I'm neither for, nor against the use of ChatGPT, but a good writer is still better than ChatGPT at this point.
I'm neither for, nor against the use of ChatGPT, but a good writer is still better than ChatGPT at this point.
Crush is a lot of things, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would use AI to write the game. He's always had a thing for flowery language anyway.
CorvusCorax
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you forgot about the french. They use that word
TBH There's a pretty big issue in a lot of media with ultra-toxic, terminally online Twitter/youtube "fans" just constantly screeching and drowning out actual discussion. These people are less than 1% of the audience but they dominate all discussion.Yeah, sure. Cry babies. Toxic fanbase! Rascists and misogynists!
Hmm. Where did I hear that before?
It's like people don't realize that if you don't like something....just don't watch/read/play it and go do something you actually enjoy.
For example - search for anything related to Star Wars on youtube and your results will be full of bloated, middle aged men screeching into the abyss about how this series made to sell toys to literal children doesn't appeal to them lmao. Like bruh, you should less concerned about Luke Skycuck and and more concerned with your cholesterol. You're literally falling apart, ya fat fuck. Go do your taxes.
LOL be careful, people might get mad at you when they realize you are talking about the people here SCREAMING out of their lungs that this games a scam.
It's pretty messed up and toxic, but TBH I'm here mainly to enjoy the flame wars between Crush's detractors and occasional white knights
Speaking of ChatGPT... is the latest five star review (starting: "This game boasts intricate and immersive storylines, offering players an unparalleled gaming experience...") written by it?
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I like the atmosphere he tries to create regarding the restaurants, bars, clubs and city exploration, but everything else about this project just leaves me derrièrehurt.
Well, I would say things are a bit more complicated than that. While what you describe has and still does happen since probably the beginning of media. There is a difference between picking something new up not licking it and then complaining about it and being a long time fan of something only to see it change to chase a new audience while alienating the old fans. Especially if this also proves to be an economically bad decision, where the new version looses way more old fans than it gains new ones. Just look at how many box office disasters Disney has produced in the last few years. That kind of also proves that it isn’t always the minority (at least not the minority of those willing to spend money on something) that is complaining. I can understand why people get really angry about having one of their favorite thing turned into something they hate and why they feel the need to vent. The internet is in the unfortunate position that it simply is the least risky place to vent your negative emotions.
Sometimes it feels like those big budget content creators know they can no longer produce quality content and so decide to try milking established fan bases of a few bucks before those realized the have been duped. But then again the atrociously large budgets they really only have a snowball’s chance in hell of recouping are a pretty big contradicting factor. Maybe humanity just collective lost the ability to learn from failure and change their approach when something doesn’t work? Or at least the ability to remove people, who are incapable of learning, from positions of power and influence before something catastrophic happens. Would explain a lot about the current world.
But back on topic, I don’t think the lack of content creation is the biggest problem given how much good content was created only to be removed again. Yeah, the extensive character creation of earlier versions clearly couldn’t receive more than a wink and a nod in the actual game but it was pretty interesting in its own right and was a great opportunity for role playing and justifying your later decisions. On that note, I hope he makes proper use of the great setup he has create for getting the MC into prostitution. They whole Emilia is pushed by her boyfriend and obviously insecure and vulnerable, coupled with the explicitly stated threat that one of the barmaids would have to move on to prostitution or be fired just screams sadistic choice. Either our agents puts her foot down stays a bargirl and sees Emilia coerced into prostitution or she compromises her integrity and dignity much further still to spare her that fate for now. I think that would be a fairly believable way to justify the MC agreeing to prostitution. Would also give her handlers reason to worry whether she gets too emotionally attached to her colleagues and whether that might jeopardize the mission as the MC is making decisions no longer on just what is most expedient for the mission but also takes her fellow bargirls' wellbeing into account (which will clearly be at odds with what is best for the mission).
I think this is the only reason to be here on a regular basis, and it's the only reason that I am here either. The most compelling topic at hand for most of FA's existence has been the schedule (2nd most compelling: development strategies), and I have to wonder about any who haven't made up their minds about that yet. Every time I see something about FA content itself, it turns out to be content that is purely linear and otherwise too simplistic to hold up a conversation for long. Still, I see a vast range of opinions, and this has always made the thread more interesting. Normally the praise that I see is vague or questionable, and the critiques of the content are detailed and striking enough that I know I wouldn't like new-format FA. I'm not telling anyone what to do, mind you, but just remarking on why I've been here for a while. Most of the creativity associated with FA has been the posts here.
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I certainly wouldn't call Crush a scammer. I think scammers wouldn't offer as many vulnerable spots as Crush did.
Crush is someone who had an idea for a game that many people liked. People are usually quite forgiving, if they get the feeling that somebody tries. That is the issue, though. Does he really try? You can get away with certain things, but only so often and only for so long. I even understand that there is no real incentive for him to finish the game as this is his income, but then again, he is alienating people by not doing much.
The times between updates is one thing. There are other games that only have two or three updates a year, but usually they are big. They offer content. Crush hypes everybody up for months and only delivers a few pages of text.
His refusal to learn is what most people hate, I think. His lack of decision making. His lack of a vision. He comes up with multiple mechanics that don't do anything, for only to abandon them one update later. At this point the game is a straight forward novel with no player agency at all. I still don't understand why Crush hired an artist to produce makeup for the avatar. While I do like Lovely Victorias art, does a game like this need that? Especially when most of the in game pictures are AI generated?
What is even more frustrating is the fact that he manages to do something, I did not know was even possible. I get the feeling that the story seems rushed and is stalling at the same time. How is that possible? There are moments when the agent is being rushed from one thing to another and then again nothing happens for ages. It is almost worthy of praise to achieve that.
For someone who claims to have been a project manager this game is poorly managed, though. I never developed anything, but even I can see where things are going wrong. It is astounding.
At this point I follow this game and keep an eye on it to see where it ends up. In the mean time there are plenty of other games that actually go somewhere. Sadly the vast majority gets abandoned at some point. I guess this is why people are kind of glad FA still exists. There is still hope.
Crush is someone who had an idea for a game that many people liked. People are usually quite forgiving, if they get the feeling that somebody tries. That is the issue, though. Does he really try? You can get away with certain things, but only so often and only for so long. I even understand that there is no real incentive for him to finish the game as this is his income, but then again, he is alienating people by not doing much.
The times between updates is one thing. There are other games that only have two or three updates a year, but usually they are big. They offer content. Crush hypes everybody up for months and only delivers a few pages of text.
His refusal to learn is what most people hate, I think. His lack of decision making. His lack of a vision. He comes up with multiple mechanics that don't do anything, for only to abandon them one update later. At this point the game is a straight forward novel with no player agency at all. I still don't understand why Crush hired an artist to produce makeup for the avatar. While I do like Lovely Victorias art, does a game like this need that? Especially when most of the in game pictures are AI generated?
What is even more frustrating is the fact that he manages to do something, I did not know was even possible. I get the feeling that the story seems rushed and is stalling at the same time. How is that possible? There are moments when the agent is being rushed from one thing to another and then again nothing happens for ages. It is almost worthy of praise to achieve that.
For someone who claims to have been a project manager this game is poorly managed, though. I never developed anything, but even I can see where things are going wrong. It is astounding.
At this point I follow this game and keep an eye on it to see where it ends up. In the mean time there are plenty of other games that actually go somewhere. Sadly the vast majority gets abandoned at some point. I guess this is why people are kind of glad FA still exists. There is still hope.
Totally right?! I suppose it's because they were literal babies when they started subscribing and now they're upset that there's no enough to fap to in adulthood.
Only legends can leave obviously real reviews like: "Players are not just participants; they are active protagonists within the game's expansive world, where every decision made and every action taken resonates within the intricately woven narrative. The game's creators have meticulously crafted a universe filled with diverse characters, intricate lore, and compelling dialogues, allowing players to truly lose themselves in the storyline."
The best part of the update is the bit where our Agent decodes the cipher, only to find the twist where she's DEVILFISH and everything was a dream within a dream. Only when you get the right dice roll will this unlock, and you'll only get a chance for unlock if you chant: "Crush is always right, all critics are dumb" x3000.
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lol no. The game is progressing and you can't reconcile wanting a return to lifepath and current content updates.
Which is why I suggested another editor and community contributions. We already know how Bangkok begins so, for continuity, this can only be vanilla filler content.
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1.11 for life path or 1.6.3 for the recruitment mission. They're really good! But they are tangential to the game that people pay to play.Am I right in saying that you love the developer's work but you just want more?
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It doesn't feel like he does, for the last update he said 5 straight months he was working 8-10 hours a day, every single day, to get the update out. Then when it came out it felt like it had been written by a philosophy student who had forgotten to write their weekly summary of that weeks chapter of "The Critique of Pure Reason." I know that desperation because that was literally me in college lmao.
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Meh. Idk
I used to be quite into the game when the premise still was actual choices.
But the more it went on the less choices there were.
And even worse the work at the club is actually getting tamer as it progresses which makes no sense.
Oh and obviously the continuity of her "corruption" has been really bad since the last update.
I wouldn't even miss the "life path" aka customisable origin story if I got actual decisions in the game.
It shouldn't be up to Crush to determine whether the MC is a femme fatal or a church mouse.
I understand what you're saying, though I transitioned from considering what someone else can develop, to what I can do as a developer. It's made a tremendous positive difference. It's also easier to do than ever before.
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I think main character just need to get one simple thought: there are no barmaids in such bar. She may only be bargirl or barmaid/bargirl. That's it.
Any choice (ok, we know that there are no choices in this novel, but still) that she made doesn't matter in a long run.
Club needs money, because it's a business and they can't afford any barmaid that is not bargirl
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