Riven

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If you have a problem with Conner then this game is not for you. It's that simple. What do you think is going to happen once our agent starts working upstairs (fingers crossed for summer 2025)? We already got preview of her future clients - ageing, overweight farangs; cocky, entitled, assholes with money; mobsters etc. Or do you think she will work as a bargirl without fucking anyone?

Regarding your alternatives (A) just because you don't like something doesn't mean its unrealistic. (B) you expect a desperate, broke tourist to provide you with money or drugs? (C) making crush create new story branch extending this already bloated intro even more and for what reason? (D) if they can leverage Connor then this whole mission is pointless and there is no game.
 
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I-No

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that it might not work out. And have a contingency. A Plan B. And Plan C.
Still not non-con which was my point. But of course you are right, there would be lots of better, more consistent ways for the story to unfold.
She is not a trained agent using any possible sexpionage to get info.
She's a trained agent (with little to no field experience though) but she's definitely not trained as honey-pot.
What do you think is going to happen once our agent starts working upstairs (fingers crossed for summer 2025)?
I am not sure whether I should look forward to this. As a bargirl those degrading sexual encounters will get quite normal for her, she will sooner or later get used to it. It would be difficult to write those events kinky enough to keep us "readers" still interested and her on the edge of quitting the mission alltogether. I am not sure Crush could pull that off given the sub-par writings he's produced recently.
 

vicaddict

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The story progression is just bad. Initially she had to undergo training missions in a Glasgow night club, including a possible casting couch scene. Crush decided to tone it down a bit and made her a bartender. Only for then to have the very first scene being a rather questionable rapey creampie job interview. Now if that is "toning down", I am interested to see the actual bargirl content.

Then again, as Crush lined out, we won't see that, because he intends to tackle the school/college stuff, once we have reached that point.
 

Aillor Nailo

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If you have a problem with Conner then this game is not for you. It's that simple. What do you think is going to happen once our agent starts working upstairs (fingers crossed for summer 2025)? We already got preview of her future clients - ageing, overweight farangs; cocky, entitled, assholes with money; mobsters etc. Or do you think she will work as a bargirl without fucking anyone?

Regarding your alternatives (A) just because you don't like something doesn't mean its unrealistic. (B) you expect a desperate, broke tourist to provide you with money or drugs? (C) making crush create new story branch extending this already bloated intro even more and for what reason? (D) if they can leverage Connor then this whole mission is pointless and there is no game.
I do not have a problem with Connor per se. I have no illusions about what will happen, as long the corruption process is at least a little bit consistent and realistic. Realism is my main problem, not the rest. I play her as reluctant and in slow corruption and that she slowly gets used to more and more things.

But that is MY Kate.
There are different ways to play so your Kate might shag anything that moves and have no problem with it.

But as I remember my Kate doesn't really want to have sex with Connor. He then ignores a condom and finishs inside against her will. As it was written, that was rape. And NO woman likes rapes. Why would she allow that? From 0 to 100 in 3 seconds? And why would she then allow him to do it again and again. So I would very mush say anything after that rape is unrealistic behavior.

Please note that I only speak for me. If anyone just like sex scenes regardless of how we got there then I have no problem with that. It it just that I DO care how we got there.

But unless I rewrite the story I get it that it will contain large amount of inconsistencies and bad writing. Just a pity, it could have been so great.
 
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If you have a problem with Conner then this game is not for you. It's that simple. What do you think is going to happen once our agent starts working upstairs (fingers crossed for summer 2025)? We already got preview of her future clients - ageing, overweight farangs; cocky, entitled, assholes with money; mobsters etc. Or do you think she will work as a bargirl without fucking anyone?
I'm not sure what you think intelligence agencies do but that's not it. That's just pure fiction.

Anyway, I get this is a porn game but that doesn't make it immune to criticism. You're just trying to gatekeep the other person, a poorly disguished attempt at that by trying to justify a ridiculous porn plot as if there was any degree of realism to it.

No, of course not intelligence agencies do not expect their agents to go about letting themselves get raped by their targets. Sure, sexpionage is a thing but it's multi-layered and very thoroughly prepared with every facet of the seduction taken into account. It's also consensual because the seducer is the agent.

The CIA or MI6 do not expect or require their agents, male or female, to get bent over and fucked by a criminal drug dealer in a sham interview. Her job isn't even to seduce but to gather information. The only actual sexpionage she did is the defence contractor or whoever that guy was in the hotel and only barely because it was pretty poorly planned.
 

robin312

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But that is MY Kate.
There are different ways to play so your Kate might shag anything that moves and have no problem with it.
Oh, man.
There are no others Kates than Crush's Kate and likely they will never exist
Just understand already that all dev's promises you should divide to at least 10
Crush is a novice programmer and he just can't implement proper branching with different Kates, because his writing skills lack productivity as well
 

Riven

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I'm not sure what you think intelligence agencies do but that's not it. That's just pure fiction.
At no point did I mention real intelligence agencies in my post, but sure.
You're just trying to gatekeep the other person, a poorly disguished attempt at that by trying to justify a ridiculous porn plot as if there was any degree of realism to it.
Once again not even close to what my post was about. Try reading with comprehension next time.
 

TheDeviant

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Does anyone have offline assets (image pack etc.) for 1.11.1 ?
I'm not sure an offline version for 1.11(.1) was ever released.
I could be wrong, but I was going through the discord and he was never happy with 1.11 or the .1 after (part of the reason he skipped the rest of the life path and moved to the current version).
 

TBCheese

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Is it possible to even unlock that Yeah, oKay option? If so how?
No. Like several other "choices" in this update, the affirming option isn't an actual option. There's no check for arousal level; the passage just includes a grayed out "option" to make it look like you might have had a choice. The butt fingering is like this too, where the "Stop it" option is just gray text.

The passage info is below:
<<silently>>
<<emote-mouth-talking>>
<</silently>>\
<<header>>\
<<page>>\
<<if $kateSays == "iKnow">>\
"I know," you tell her.

"Want me to talk to Con?" she offers.
<<elseif $kateSays == "couldUseMoney">>\
"Could sure use the money," you shrug back.

"I know. Want me to talk to Con?" she offers.
<<else>>\
(ERROR IN KATESAYS VAR)
<</if>>\

//About me becoming a <div class="tooltip">bargirl<span class="tooltiptext">club prostitute</span></div>?// Your heart skips a beat.

<span class="greyedOut">//[Arousal too low]// Yeah, okay.</span>
[[Uh, not yet.|WR-5950 Not yet]]
<</page>>
 
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yewfella

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I love every element of this game. Character customisation, clothing options, story, the vector graphics. Just brilliant.
 

bearclaw01234

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She is from the beginning a Honey Pot, but she still does not notice. Not everyone has been ugly types
No she's not a honeypot from the beginning, because if she was then it wouldn't have the scene of the discussion with the Director about it & the one after about the government supplied meds for STD's & STI's. Besides the fact that there wouldn't be the choice of becoming a bargirl vs being a barmaid.

Also ye must have some pretty low standards because only 1 male that she encountered in the bar/club wasn't ugly.
 
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Ravnen

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I didn't say she would abort the mission by saying no to Connor at the casting. She has a whole team of people to her disposal. They broke in to the club to find info and they have hacked the cameras etc. They would be rather amateurish if she goes to the casting, says no to the rape, leaves and the entire Agency just says: "Damn. What a pity. We then cannot think of ANY possibility to continue. Let's just drop everything and go back to our tea.".

They would EXPECT her not to be raped, that it might not work out. And have a contingency. A Plan B. And Plan C. Otherwise they are idiots.

So a couple of alternatives for Crush:
Alternative A: He could have setup the casting so she could pass in a more realistic way.
Alternative B: That Connor for example might require other things instead (drugs, money (debt) or whatever) or that he actually might like someone saying no to him and might play a longer game for fun. I think he finds her attractive enough.
Alternative C: Make it so that the casting always is a bit undressed but she stops at at realistic point, failing the casting but then utilizing the agency's resources to find another way.
Alternative D: There never was a casting. They scout Connor out first, find weaknesses/material/blackmail and uses it (as a real agency would do). He could however require that she "models" for him, a casting if you will, so that she is not entirely useless. If he is to back her, he must know she at least will not embarrass him.

There are SO many ways he could have made those episodes SO much better. She is not a trained agent using any possible sexpionage to get info. Or have I totally misread her backstory?
Id listen to this person.. This would be an change of the story that I could stand behind..
 

Ravnen

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If you have a problem with Conner then this game is not for you. It's that simple. What do you think is going to happen once our agent starts working upstairs (fingers crossed for summer 2025)? We already got preview of her future clients - ageing, overweight farangs; cocky, entitled, assholes with money; mobsters etc. Or do you think she will work as a bargirl without fucking anyone?

Regarding your alternatives (A) just because you don't like something doesn't mean its unrealistic. (B) you expect a desperate, broke tourist to provide you with money or drugs? (C) making crush create new story branch extending this already bloated intro even more and for what reason? (D) if they can leverage Connor then this whole mission is pointless and there is no game.
Then Crush should allow us to skip content we have no interest in seeing.. Simply make a note stating, "This next scene our protagonist will be raped by fat ugly bastards and connor, if you wish to skip it simply click the skip button".. And every one is happy Yaaay :LOL:
 

gymnopedies

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No she's not a honeypot from the beginning, because if she was then it wouldn't have the scene of the discussion with the Director about it & the one after about the government supplied meds for STD's & STI's. Besides the fact that there wouldn't be the choice of becoming a bargirl vs being a barmaid.

Also ye must have some pretty low standards because only 1 male that she encountered in the bar/club wasn't ugly.
lol , I must have low standards? we talk about what the character thinking, so cody and the Norwegian guy under her standards was good or at less right guys

And yes, she was a honeypot from the beginning and all the selections she has made, if you did not finish the game they already put you or lead you to be a honepot, only that I just notice it.

Although, using STDS has to do with the fact of being Honeypot, I make me ask me if you understand the concept of being a honeypot
 
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