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I would do it, unfortunately my skills end at writing. I could pick up some of the rest, but not art or coding fast enough make a product. I've tried multiple times to assemble a team, but art is where I come up short.
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I would be willing to do the renders for a game like this one, as they shouldn't take too much time from my own projects, and the code in twine shouldn't be too hard either. I'll pm you with some of my art.
Okay, our Boeings 737 Max has been falling from the skies because we outsource software for junior Indian developers for 7$ hour salary, why don't you go and create your own airplane company? You could write your own software for it too!
It seems that some people will try to shut up anyone who tries to raise their head above the norms of conformity and attempt to engage in a intellectual process. Enjoy what you're given and stay silent, right.
Realistically, it comes down to encouraging unproductive behavior. See the famous "Day in the life of Twitter employee with a 6 figure salary". So, people who claim "Why are you counting my money?" doesn't understand how their financial decisions affect others pastime activities. I don't think we have any leverage to improve current situation. But I'm just tired of seeing, honestly speaking, great ideas that are going trough a development hell or even abandoned altogether. That's one way to grow an apathy.
Hey it's coming full circle. Some here have probably seen all this before and been through it. For anyone who hasn't: some hundreds of deleted posts would be very much like the past 2 or 3 pages. Most likely some "mysterious personality" will show up and argue endlessly with those who have been criticizing Crush, and there will be mass deletions. Been there, seen that.
Probably going to happen with the next release. Next release might come with a purge of negative comments - sorry, I mean, "trolling comments that don't add to the conversation".
What is the name of the other game? i want to play it.I always thought economic success of this game is due to right pricing (most of developers are so greedy that they release their games to huge tiers but you can get this one for 1$ with a small delay) and good marketing (social media presence, presentation of the game etc.)
If you check the amount of supporters you can see the pattern.
1$ supporters ≈ %62,4
5$ supporters ≈ %31
10$ supporters ≈ %6,3
20$ supporters ≈ %0.3
Most of them are on lowest tier so they don't care much if they get something or not.
Talked about developer, now even though we always complain why are we here?
There is not much competition, closest game to this one gets developed so slow that this game might count as fast development compared to it.
They might be referring to agent of heels but it's hard to call that comparable really. The games don't have a lot in common
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Not much to go now, maybe crush will be done this year but wouldn't bet my house on it
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Hey guys! Just finished polishing up sex scene 2C. Here's the board:
I'm gonna move straight onto the final scene, and will report here when it's done.
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But did you pay expert chef prices for your food?
If you did then, presumably in most parts of the world, you know that $20 per head does not promise culinary ecstasy, ephemeral or otherwise.
You are half way to agreeing with me. I accept that I couldn't make this game. Accept you can't either... and that we would both like a lot more progress a lot sooner but maybe this is just what it takes. We are both here discussing it - so we are waiting for it - but I don't want to make it and you don't want to make it - so we sit and wait for our proven chef?
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No.
737 Max failure was a corporate decision based on the cost of training vs
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.The fact that you blame that corporate bullshit on 'junior Indian developers for 7$ hour salary' speaks volumes about your egregious ignorance.
Again, I cannot understand your misplaced anger that is predicated on ignorance.
Do you have any comments specific to this game?
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Oh, it is a valid argument. I make a point that if I criticize someone's efforts that I better be damn sure I could do it better.
If I make a point to an electrician/plumber that I didn't like their work it is because I have a problem with their efforts. It shouldn't be surprising to you that people want to put in the minimum effort to get paid.
It is far easier to half-ass finish something but this is clearly not what this developer is doing. So it's easier to just release something on time. But they didn't. So how do you explain that?
I've had various different bosses over years, and they discussed progress with me as bosses should. However, none of my bosses (*since my early 20s) had ever been able to do my job better than I do.
Additional details: They all wanted it done faster. I was almost always on time.
I doubt that many other people's experience is radically different from what I just posted, and I would be absolutely shocked if I was the only one who could say any of that. Also I think the conversation is so silly that it would make the thread better once it's deleted in a few days or so. I can't imagine someone refusing to tell George R.R. Martin that he could finish "The Winds of Winter" sooner to suit their tastes, simply because he's a better writer.
**Also don't think I'm comparing you to Martin, Crush, except for how you are both quite slow in recent years.
***Additionally, this conversation has been had before, and all points have been answered before, but it was deleted.
Additional details: They all wanted it done faster. I was almost always on time.
I doubt that many other people's experience is radically different from what I just posted, and I would be absolutely shocked if I was the only one who could say any of that. Also I think the conversation is so silly that it would make the thread better once it's deleted in a few days or so. I can't imagine someone refusing to tell George R.R. Martin that he could finish "The Winds of Winter" sooner to suit their tastes, simply because he's a better writer.
**Also don't think I'm comparing you to Martin, Crush, except for how you are both quite slow in recent years.
***Additionally, this conversation has been had before, and all points have been answered before, but it was deleted.
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That's not a healthy way of thinking, stranger. There are things that are pretty self evident, e.g. none of us are playing in the World Cup but are we allowed an opinion on the matches? I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, but obviously a qualified opinion carries more weight. Heck, there's literally a whole industry doing reviews (food, film, art critics etc) who cannot exceed the level of the artist.
Long story short, critics exist but main difference is being able to sift through what's constructive criticism. So far, I'm reading the main issue is timeliness, not quality. What's unfair about that? The logical fix would be better project management, not asking the critic to become a writer eh? It's how you respond that leads to growth, like Messi overcoming hormone and height deficiency. But let's be frank, this isn't ever meant to be Shakespeare.
Quality is subjective but quantity is measurable. Please Crush, if you're reading this, aim for a balance between the 2? It's disappointing to come back here to read yet another delay for a release due Sept (his own plan, unless I'm imagining things). He's already broken the report to task level, only thing missing is setting actual dates to each task. E.g. For release in Sept, scene 1 deadline needs to be 1 Aug latest. SMART goals, go Google them.
My qualification to make this comment is I'm old enough to fap, so have met enough deadlines to understand what is accountability. Hope that's good enough? Of course, the alternative is to get Crush to reveal his qualifications then we get into pissing contest of who has the best literature degree?
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I've recieved criticism for my electrical work, my plumbing and my game making form many people who could not do it nearly as well as me. Now sure most of the time they were wrong and I've either explained that to them, ignored them or been rude to them depending on circumstances but you know what? Sometimes they have been correct, its difficult to then admit that despite my brilliance (that's a lot to despite right there) I am not always perfect and some times people can see through the cracks and tell me (yes, me) that I could be doing something better and I could.It is only due to my world leading humility that I am able to admit to these rare and I'm sure surprising flaws. I hope that one day Crush can humble brag as wonderfully as I can but I fear he lacks the talent that oozes from me (sometimes as an inexplicable green slime).
I do understand that you will find a reply to this hard as you only critize those you can out do and I am such a paradigm of human virtue, so as the soul human capable of doing anything better than me I will reply on your behalf...
Kevin you are a dick, stop telling everyone how great you are, you suck. I hate you and your mum is a slut, I hope you die.
As you can see, I captured your tone perfectly. Now if you wish you my bask in my glory but no more than 5 minutes, others are waiting.
My opinion is the development is very good but it is very perfectionist literally I have been following it since 2018 approximately, I have been waiting to see what happens after the main character gets on the commercial plane, I understand how development lapses vary although the standard is usually between 3 months to 4 months most have other jobs this is more of a hobby for many, I consider that in this project there are no big problems to create new scenes, although I understand that it uses a different engine to the most used ones like renpy and unity I think that the main challenge is the block that all writers have when creating a work I have seen how the artistic style has changed, it has had interesting variations like the character background along this time but in essence the story has not advanced.
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Kevin you are a dick, stop telling everyone how great you are, you suck. I hate you and your mum is a slut, I hope you die. I have corrected your terrible spelling, thus proving to the forum that I am indeed outdoing you and, in fact, capable of doing this better than you. So I shall once again propose the challenge to you: If you want to criticize me, why don't you try to do better? Neener neener!
Good points raised while I slept. To elaborate on one of them: Who exactly is the judge of who can and can't do better work than someone else? You? Me? The author? A tribunal? Again most of us are just names on a screen to others.
It's rather obvious that most people lack objectivity concerning their own work, and other people can see flaws in my work much more easily than I see in my own. Most people realize this sometime during their teenage years, and this is why someone else generally takes a look at work before we release it.
But this wasn't what it was about at all, really. Instead, the whole driving force behind, "you have to do it better before you can criticize it" is the same old condescension towards anonymous posters, and plain old acrimonious knee-jerk response to criticism, that has been slithering through the thread for a few years now (repeatedly deleted of course). Put in other words, someone wants to keep saying, "and Crush has more talent in one butt-hair than they have in their whole bodies," many times, and they want to keep saying it long past when it was first implied, so many years ago. It was questionable as posting content the first time, less interesting the thousandth time.
Yes, much of what is said around here is unfair, some of it quite obviously so, but two wrongs don't make a right, and it just feeds into it to raise such invalid arguments in response and then to belabor them long past the one or two statements needed to reject them. Instead, there is a tendency to lump all critique here into being just an extension of the least valid thing said, and then some equally invalid point is raised to attack all critique here. This has happened repeatedly and through essentially identical methods and language for years now in this thread, and it lacks too much to appear so often.
There is a classy way to respond to criticism, and there are some completely classless ways as well. We've seen both around here, but it's just Internet "business as usual" to argue endlessly in support of an invalid point that was rejected long ago and which was at best tangential to start with. Again that word "tangential," appearing so often in the deleted posts in this thread. And of course the mocking responses that appear in the posts that belabor this invalid point, it makes the motivation clear. But no, I get it, only Shakespeare can come back from the dead to criticize Crush. All other critiques will be first mocked invalidly, and then deleted. But let us not continue to torment this already tortured soul, and yes there is only one soul that can be seen as tortured in this world. No others need apply.
It's rather obvious that most people lack objectivity concerning their own work, and other people can see flaws in my work much more easily than I see in my own. Most people realize this sometime during their teenage years, and this is why someone else generally takes a look at work before we release it.
But this wasn't what it was about at all, really. Instead, the whole driving force behind, "you have to do it better before you can criticize it" is the same old condescension towards anonymous posters, and plain old acrimonious knee-jerk response to criticism, that has been slithering through the thread for a few years now (repeatedly deleted of course). Put in other words, someone wants to keep saying, "and Crush has more talent in one butt-hair than they have in their whole bodies," many times, and they want to keep saying it long past when it was first implied, so many years ago. It was questionable as posting content the first time, less interesting the thousandth time.
Yes, much of what is said around here is unfair, some of it quite obviously so, but two wrongs don't make a right, and it just feeds into it to raise such invalid arguments in response and then to belabor them long past the one or two statements needed to reject them. Instead, there is a tendency to lump all critique here into being just an extension of the least valid thing said, and then some equally invalid point is raised to attack all critique here. This has happened repeatedly and through essentially identical methods and language for years now in this thread, and it lacks too much to appear so often.
There is a classy way to respond to criticism, and there are some completely classless ways as well. We've seen both around here, but it's just Internet "business as usual" to argue endlessly in support of an invalid point that was rejected long ago and which was at best tangential to start with. Again that word "tangential," appearing so often in the deleted posts in this thread. And of course the mocking responses that appear in the posts that belabor this invalid point, it makes the motivation clear. But no, I get it, only Shakespeare can come back from the dead to criticize Crush. All other critiques will be first mocked invalidly, and then deleted. But let us not continue to torment this already tortured soul, and yes there is only one soul that can be seen as tortured in this world. No others need apply.
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Still, let me not be guilty of a couple of sins.
First, false equivalency. Many of the critiques attacked in this thread are superior to the responses that they have received.
Second, falling for the bait-and-switch. I have seen the work of perfectionists before. It tends to be complete within the scope of their vision, and they tend to take a long time to get there, getting caught up in details, deleting repeatedly and re-starting. We've largely accepted the statement that perfectionism is the sole cause of lateness here, but I am not entirely convinced of that. It may contribute, but I suspect I could find greater factors contributing to lateness if I knew the details.
First, false equivalency. Many of the critiques attacked in this thread are superior to the responses that they have received.
Second, falling for the bait-and-switch. I have seen the work of perfectionists before. It tends to be complete within the scope of their vision, and they tend to take a long time to get there, getting caught up in details, deleting repeatedly and re-starting. We've largely accepted the statement that perfectionism is the sole cause of lateness here, but I am not entirely convinced of that. It may contribute, but I suspect I could find greater factors contributing to lateness if I knew the details.
I mean, I could try explaining that it is a lot more effort to do good enough to a deadline instead of doing good enough months after a deadline. Or that I know writers that actually can do that, put in the effort to deliver good enough to a deadline.
But let me instead go with: only an absolute piece of total shit would insinuate people who do keep deadlines must have half-assed it. And that insinuation is core to your pretense of an argument that Crush not keeping a deadline must be a good thing.