WuzzyFuzzy

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Surprised that certain very "divisive" fetishes/kinks would spook people away from the game?

Really? :ROFLMAO:
Not to antagonize, but it continues to fascinate me how the majority of guys on F95 look at the three letter kink as being the root of all evil. Case in point, I not long ago saw someone post that anyone liking the three letter word kink needed psychological counseling (and he was not joking). But societal norms and mores would not hold the same view. I challenged him to a hypothetical scenario. Go to the nearest city, approach random folks and share with them that he likes to play games where he bangs his mother and sisters (for which he thought acceptable game behavior). I, on the other hand, will approach people and tell them I like to play games where I swap/swing. Comparing those two scenarios, which would elicit the greater sense of disgust/outrage?

What most, as in almost 100%, of those who react so negatively to the three letter word games continue to fail to understand is this: it's a difference between a first person and third person perspective. A first person player inserts himself into the game and becomes emotionally engaged and their reactions are typically (not always), just that--emotional. A third person player such as myself takes on the role of a manipulator and does not feel threatened or lessened by what's going on in a swap/sharing/swinging/cucking scene. We are more dispassionate in our approach and our responses.

But by their very nature, all kinks/fetishes/perversions are divisive. Too bad some are unwilling to objectively accept that reality.
 

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Not to antagonize, but it continues to fascinate me how the majority of guys on F95 look at the three letter kink as being the root of all evil. Case in point, I not long ago saw someone post that anyone liking the three letter word kink needed psychological counseling (and he was not joking). But societal norms and mores would not hold the same view. I challenged him to a hypothetical scenario. Go to the nearest city, approach random folks and share with them that he likes to play games where he bangs his mother and sisters (for which he thought acceptable game behavior). I, on the other hand, will approach people and tell them I like to play games where I swap/swing. Comparing those two scenarios, which would elicit the greater sense of disgust/outrage?

What most, as in almost 100%, of those who react so negatively to the three letter word games continue to fail to understand is this: it's a difference between a first person and third person perspective. A first person player inserts himself into the game and becomes emotionally engaged and their reactions are typically (not always), just that--emotional. A third person player such as myself takes on the role of a manipulator and does not feel threatened or lessened by what's going on in a swap/sharing/swinging/cucking scene. We are more dispassionate in our approach and our responses.

But by their very nature, all kinks/fetishes/perversions are divisive. Too bad some are unwilling to objectively accept that reality.
Thats not really a valid example, people who like incest in games don't actually want to fuck their family members (well most don't I hope) nor do most people who like NTR/sharing/cuck fans actually want their partner in real life getting dicked down by multiple dudes (but some do). In the case of incest it's usually a super model level hot mom or sister that you know isn't actually a familial relation so it's easy to separate fantasy from reality in a game context and stick your dick in it.

But it is hard for most people mainly the males of the species to not mate guard any females they see as potential mates and a biological need to ensure paternity of their potential offspring, that's why most guys will date a woman who is viewed as "easy" but not see her as a wife or mother candidate. I think it's just harder to suppress that urge to protect what they view as theirs/mine in a huge percentage of the male population and a lot of them are repulsed by those who are. I can't really comment if it's worthy of needing therapy but it certainly isn't natural to be comfortable with somebody that could be possibly a mate being with multiple different potential sperm donors.

You say it's simply looking at it from a third person point but that's not really accurate. I know I don't wish to see another man be NTRed in real life or a game setting (exceptions being real life monsters). It's sad as fuck watching a man die inside and watch his soul be crushed by somebody he thought was his partner in this mess we call life. Or maybe if you just haven't seen a real life example of a friend/relative of that it doesn't hit home enough to understand the real costs of "oh look she cucked him, what a loser" and your just able to laugh it off.

But who knows, I'm just another rando bringing my own bias and prejudice into a complicated topic on a totally important porn game forum :ROFLMAO:
 

WuzzyFuzzy

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Thats not really a valid example, people who like incest in games don't actually want to fuck their family members ...
You'll notice I put "like to play games". I was not implying reality; yet, the average person on the street would still have a reaction commiserate akin to societal norms.

You say it's simply looking at it from a third person point but that's not really accurate. I know I don't wish to see another man be NTRed in real life or a game setting (exceptions being real life monsters). It's sad as fuck watching a man die inside and watch his soul be crushed by somebody he thought was his partner in this mess we call life. Or maybe if you just haven't seen a real life example of a friend/relative of that it doesn't hit home enough to understand the real costs of "oh look she cucked him, what a loser" and your just able to laugh it off.
A couple of things. First, third person is accurate for me and others playing 'games'. I was not equating third person to reality. There are first person players; there are third person players. That's a fact. That's also, at least in some cases, why there's cognitive dissonance in these arguments.

When it comes to reality, one must differentiate cheating, cucking, etc. I've been cheated on. Forgave her, she cheated again. End of marriage. My current marriage has lasted 20+ years and no problems. Cuckolds, for reasons I would never be able to understand, get off on the humiliation or subservience of the situation. The concept is completely foreign to me IRL. But in a game I play all routes and am able to disconnect from reality. The only two kinks/fetishes that I can't separate are lolli and shota. I can't deal with it and want to call the guys with badges.......

But who knows, I'm just another rando bringing my own bias and prejudice into a complicated topic on a totally important porn game forum :ROFLMAO:
Understand and agree and it's way past my bed time. I'm out....:sleep:
 
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Not to antagonize, but it continues to fascinate me how the majority of guys on F95 look at the three letter kink as being the root of all evil.
Ach, wat ze hell, since it's ze open mike Freud impersonating hour anyway... see, some folks have an exceedingly brittle self-security that needs to be continuously upheld and protected at all costs in their own eyes, lest their precious little fantasy falls apart. This is why they would never leave a provocation - any perceived challenge to their "top alpha male" status - unanswered, even if even they know it would be in their own interest to let it go, even if there are no witnesses around (if there are, that changes the game to having a projected image to uphold, whereas otherwise they only have their own insecurities threatened).

Traditionally, being able to solely possess "the female of one's choice" is of course a large part of such an image, which is why these fine folks tend to react with extreme aggression to the mere idea that they would allow anyone else near their prized trophies, for that would be fully incompatible for them with continuing to think of themselves as "top dogs". Incidentally, for the same reason, said "trophies" will likely find it exceedingly difficult to part ways with these gentlemen if and when they decide to do so - perceived failure to assert ownership works the same way even when there are no third parties involved, not to mention what getting rejected does to a brittle ego.

Hence all that over-the-top sabre-rattling every time the peril of unwittingly ending up playing an NTR game arises - by the time it happens to you in a game it's a fait accompli, and no amount of save reloading can erase the horrible shame of having allowed it to happen to you; even without witnesses, their precious self-image is now shattered and they do not know how to be anything other than the center of their little power fantasy. In their world, you cannot be a person of any value unless you constantly exhibit absolute power over everything and everyone you perceive to be "your domain". Failure to do so gets you demoted to worthless refuse. Kindness, talent, happiness, accomplishments, empathy, even the respect of others - those are all irrelevant as soon as they fail to assert their will over everyone else every. single. time. Which NTR is rather obviously anathema to. I mean, how could one possibly be in a happy relationship with someone without the power to decide for them who gets access to their genitals... It's crazy talk, that!
 

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What most, as in almost 100%, of those who react so negatively to the three letter word games continue to fail to understand is this: it's a difference between a first person and third person perspective. A first person player inserts himself into the game and becomes emotionally engaged and their reactions are typically (not always), just that--emotional. A third person player such as myself takes on the role of a manipulator and does not feel threatened or lessened by what's going on in a swap/sharing/swinging/cucking scene. We are more dispassionate in our approach and our responses.

But by their very nature, all kinks/fetishes/perversions are divisive. Too bad some are unwilling to objectively accept that reality.
As a first person player myself, I can only agree. Though I gotta say, as somebody else said, I dislike all kinds of NTR, not only the one flagged here, anyway. I just try not to cry out about it but just ignore games that don't support my side of the kink spectrum enough (and am willing to tolerate some amounts of unliked kinks for a good story without everything being ruined).

see, some folks have an exceedingly brittle self-security that needs to be continuously upheld and protected at all costs in their own eyes, lest their precious little fantasy falls apart. This is why they would never leave a provocation - any perceived challenge to their "top alpha male" status - unanswered (...)
However that I do not agree with. It may be that some have a brittle self-security. However I could just as well argue that people who flout their perceived high self-security to show that they are way more grounded need this just as much to stabilize themselves.

I don't think outfreuding others is of any use. (Almost) no kink or lack thereof is a threat to others, so why worry about them? NTR isn't good, NTR isn't bad, NTR is just a taste, just like pineapple pizza, trance music, or daily soaps on TV. Enjoy what you enjoy, let others enjoy what they do. Neither pro nor contra NTR is bad, it is just when people start arguing that their side is somehow better or more in the right that it gets annoying.
 

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As a first person player myself, I can only agree. Though I gotta say, as somebody else said, I dislike all kinds of NTR, not only the one flagged here, anyway. I just try not to cry out about it but just ignore games that don't support my side of the kink spectrum enough (and am willing to tolerate some amounts of unliked kinks for a good story without everything being ruined).



However that I do not agree with. It may be that some have a brittle self-security. However I could just as well argue that people who flout their perceived high self-security to show that they are way more grounded need this just as much to stabilize themselves.

I don't think outfreuding others is of any use. (Almost) no kink or lack thereof is a threat to others, so why worry about them? NTR isn't good, NTR isn't bad, NTR is just a taste, just like pineapple pizza, trance music, or daily soaps on TV. Enjoy what you enjoy, let others enjoy what they do. Neither pro nor contra NTR is bad, it is just when people start arguing that their side is somehow better or more in the right that it gets annoying.
I was with you until pineapple on pizza :mad:
 

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Ok, so I took peoples advice and gave the game a go and I must say the quality is really really good. The animations and sex scenes are all top quality. But my only complaint is exactly what I figured was going to happen eventually and always happens when there are too many parallel storylines all going on. In the first 2 weeks it wasn't very noticeable when the only content missing was all of Min's scenes (just not into watersports and a bloody vagina) and Dahlia (not into being a humiliated sub), but now in chapter 3 (so far) the content is definitely leaning into the sharing/NTR/cuck direction, and this isn't a rant against that type of content being in the game. I'm only concerned if the game will be worth playing or supporting in the future if that will be 75% of what the updates are about.

I see in the walkthrough that I am already missing out on any Samiya content now and in the future unless I am ok with being not only a sub but also into the cuck/sharing kink (which sucks because I was really looking forward to dominating Samiya further) and also the whole issue of Lydia and her crazy hang ups about "actual" sex where it also in the WT states she is more aggressive on the NTR cage path which is really dumb as the MC has been very understanding (she has been too with the MC) with her but she's only willing to open up to the MC sexually if she's able to fuck other dudes? That's just weak story telling...

So, I guess the real question would be is this just a week 3 focus or small part of it and week 4 will go back to the other type of kinks/fetishes or will this be razor focused from here on out solely on the kinks of the NTR/sharing/cuck variety?
 

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Ok, so I took peoples advice and gave the game a go ...
Others can probably tell you better than I, but some of your situation would be solved with the extended versions. I'm not sure as to the reasons, but if history serves as a guide they will release extended versions that show more content with more peeps. Also, I think they intend for the player to make multiple playthroughs.
 
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There will not be a week 4, this one is the last.
Well shit so only like 4-5 more updates to go then. Guess they need to cram in as much of the not so prevelent so far kinks into the last bit of the story as possible. Guess ill come back after a few updates and see which way the winds are blowing.
 
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(I'm trying to sum up and gather some fact here...)
After searching through the thread and finding several earlier versions mentioned as different variants of the game, I can't figure out if these latest versions in OP are in fact Extended and contains Voice Update?: Week 1 v1.0.40 & Week 2 v2.0.21.
Or did those terms lose meaning as every release after a certain point became one variant?
 

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Well shit so only like 4-5 more updates to go then. Guess they need to cram in as much of the not so prevelent so far kinks into the last bit of the story as possible. Guess ill come back after a few updates and see which way the winds are blowing.
While only some updates are left, they will be quite big at least for ppl who are taken most if not all routes (with the mod), so it will take a bit longer for those updates. And then we have the extended versions too.

(I'm trying to sum up and gather some fact here...)
After searching through the thread and finding several earlier versions mentioned as different variants of the game, I can't figure out if these latest versions in OP are in fact Extended and contains Voice Update?: Week 1 v1.0.40 & Week 2 v2.0.21.
Or did those terms lose meaning as every release after a certain point became one variant?
So first of all they didn’t lose meaning per sé, there are still different version which have different content/different extras, but that pretty much is irrelevant here, because in the OP are only the latest versions and those are all extended (except week 3 there is no extended yet). There is some difference for week 1. in OP IIRC is the version 1.0.40 this is the version with integrated Walkthrough, you can find v1.0.39 (version without WT) in this thread somewhere, my links should still be up.
For Week 2 there is only the latest and the official walkthrough is a mod now, that can also be found here, don‘t really know if it’s linked in the OP (just search by my username). When I am home I will edit this post to include links to the different Week1 version and the week 2 mod. Btw this all doesn’t matter if you use the multimod anyways then just download the version in the op.
Edit: Clarified v1.0.39 & put together 2 posts.
 
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It appears several images are missing from the archive. Has anyone else encountered this on the Lyssa path?
 

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It's been awhile since I played and I've seen a few comments seemingly confirm it-but the current s1 and s2 are the extended versions, correct? I have 2 files for s2 on my laptop from before but neither are 2.0.21 so I should just delete those and re-download, yeah? And I assume they updated s1 from 1.0.36 to 1.0.40 to make it the complete extended version of s1? Should I replay it to make sure I don't miss anything? Appreciate anyone's time-sorry if it's been asked before just want to confirm
 
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