Chris_Prat

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On some place on this thread, I read that the game belongs to the DEV and this is partly... The many patrons that support the game has too much to say, even directly on polls or comments... DEV's authonomy is often so restricted in any case to the long run. If Melinda has so much exposing time and content, it's all thanks to the supporter response.. If only that NTR content was about Rhonda (only an example, hypothetically), how many people would have commented this?...Not so many, perhaps.

However, I read too there's a new version of this V11 beta. Am I wrong? Is it already on the OP to be downloaded?¿
 

gkratos123

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In the old version, you buy from the guy outside the shop when you go to Barbara, in the new one (I think I read that) you find the gun in William's room when he is not there ... (I played the version with the gun bought by like outside the store).
But when it what time do I go Williams room to get it? Thank you.
 

JiraiyaSennin

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[...] I'm at the point in the game where it tells me my relationship points aren't high enough (over 900, even though that number has been surpassed) and I'm missing a scene for moving forward. This is the timeframe directly after Cynthia leaving and before I assume it jumps back into super dark material again, I'd appreciate a little helping hints for how to find that scene, I don't mind grinding hard for more points but I'm a bit stuck.[...]
The scene you are missing is the blackmail of Melinda by the black guy ... and if as I understand you are not interested in trying to play to make all the events happen... try it like this:
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Mistress_Kixen

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On some place on this thread, I read that the game belongs to the DEV and this is partly... The many patrons that support the game has too much to say, even directly on polls or comments... DEV's authonomy is often so restricted in any case to the long run. If Melinda has so much exposing time and content, it's all thanks to the supporter response.. If only that NTR content was about Rhonda (only an example, hypothetically), how many people would have commented this?...Not so many, perhaps.

However, I read too there's a new version of this V11 beta. Am I wrong? Is it already on the OP to be downloaded?¿
As I mentioned Earlier there was NTR (the kind that most would hate) with Cynthia and when that happened most didn't even say a word about it. However, at the same time it was also Avoidable which could add to that silence as well. However with Melinda (the character many wanted to remain "Pure") it was 100% unavoidable (at least if you wanted to progress the story) which was why when the update came out people either

A) made a massive stink about it

B) Dropped the game completely

C) got so vocal that the creator decided to completely change the scene for the final version.

Oh and yes the version 11 beta is up and ready for downloading in the OP.
 

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On some place on this thread, I read that the game belongs to the DEV and this is partly... The many patrons that support the game has too much to say, even directly on polls or comments... DEV's authonomy is often so restricted in any case to the long run. If Melinda has so much exposing time and content, it's all thanks to the supporter response.. If only that NTR content was about Rhonda (only an example, hypothetically), how many people would have commented this?...Not so many, perhaps.

However, I read too there's a new version of this V11 beta. Am I wrong? Is it already on the OP to be downloaded?¿
Best regards Chris_Prat.
The statement you read was mine and I will explain it to you.
The DEV makes the game. He has full autonomy over the game regardless of our tastes and the likes of PATRONS. It is so with all games.
That it is affirmed that we all have some weight in the influence of DEV, is affirmative, although you notice:
If he wants to follow his own will and go against the Patrons' will what happens to him? He loses Patrons and makes less money, but he decides all of that. Nor can PATRONS forcefully demand anything, just stop supporting it.
You have to notice that being a patron does not mean buying the game, but encouraging its development.
How many games did have hundreds of patrons and DEV simply stopped developing the game on its own will?
Did anyone take them to court? No! Because? Because DEVs have full autonomy to do whatever they want with their projects ... Even stop developing it!
It's the rules man, no man can change it with his thoughts of justice or what's fair...
Perhaps my words are harsh and are not appealing to you, but if you stop to think, I did not tell any lies, just enlightened you about our rights.
 
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Mistress_Kixen

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here are my personal thoughts on this entire update as well as some suggestions for future content.

The update as a whole was actually quite enjoyable. Hell I was able to unlock just about everything for the first time without the need of a guide which for me is a plus. While all the grinding is still there I am loving the new female Shirley and the plot she has going. Like Emily she seems to want to do a reverse NTR by stealing Daniel away from Melinda and from the looks of things it seems like Linda (the one person I thought besides Barbara who wasn't interested in stealing Daniel away as long as she got her fair share) is in on the plot with her.

I also loved that just about all the characters (with the exception of two of the female milfs and one of the girls Daniel's age) got some new scenes. Melinda though seems to have gotten the most of all once again and I have to admit a lot of them were hot. Hell this update even makes it where you can even make Melinda cry at a point if you make a certain choice which was totally surprising to be honest. (though I doubt most will do this)

So all in all as I mentioned the update was enjoyable in my eyes.

while I doubt it will happen in future updates however I personally would like to see a Cuck Melinda path added to the game (Reverse NTR) and with the content that is already in the game it is quite possible for this to happen. I mean we already have Emily who hates Melinda's guts and with this update we have Shirley who also wants to steal Daniel for her own plan and Linda who is in on it. So with this in mind why not make a full path where either Emily, Shirley, Linda, or any of the other women who want Daniel for themselves can steal him and Cuck Melinda in the process?

I doubt most of the people would even care seeing as technically you aren't Cucking Daniel and it would be avoidable seeing as the player can choose whether or not this happens. It would give far more options for those who like the other girls more than Melinda a chance to have their favorites get with him.
 

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Best regards Chris_Prat.
The statement you read was mine and I will explain it to you.
The DEV makes the game. He has full autonomy over the game regardless of our tastes and the likes of PATRONS. It is so with all games.
That it is affirmed that we all have some weight in the influence of DEV, is affirmative, although you notice:
If he wants to follow his own will and go against the Patrons' will what happens to him? He loses Patrons and makes less money, but he decides all of that. Nor can PATRONS forcefully demand anything, just stop supporting it.
You have to notice that being a patron does not mean buying the game, but encouraging its development.
How many games did have hundreds of patrons and DEV simply stopped developing the game on its own will?
Did anyone take them to court? No! Because? Because DEVs have full autonomy to do whatever they want with their projects ... Even stop developing it!
It's the rules man, no man can change it with his thoughts of justice or what's fair...
That's correct already.. I have no objections about this, but I think that authonomy it's something that only who begins for the first time could afford it. In my opinion, whether the developer got too many Patrons and makes indeed real good money (a serious source of income), on this scenario may find the way to submit at what their Patrons really want and do so only to prevent any leaking and it's perfectly legit..
So authonomy will change along a game's development, the question would be how much it could change.
 

JiraiyaSennin

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Best regards Chris_Prat.
The statement you read was mine and I will explain it to you.
The DEV makes the game. He has full autonomy over the game regardless of our tastes and the likes of PATRONS. It is so with all games.
That it is affirmed that we all have some weight in the influence of DEV, is affirmative, although you notice:
If he wants to follow his own will and go against the Patrons' will what happens to him? He loses Patrons and makes less money, but he decides all of that. Nor can PATRONS forcefully demand anything, just stop supporting it.
You have to notice that being a patron does not mean buying the game, but encouraging its development.
How many games did have hundreds of patrons and DEV simply stopped developing the game on its own will?
Did anyone take them to court? No! Because? Because DEVs have full autonomy to do whatever they want with their projects ... Even stop developing it!
It's the rules man, no man can change it with his thoughts of justice or what's fair...
Perhaps my words are harsh and are not appealing to you, but if you stop to think, I did not tell any lies, just enlightened you about our rights.
Well it depends, if you are Dark Cookie and you have 21,872 patrons and you make $ 58,713 dollars a month even if you lose some patrons it doesn't change you .... if you have 869 as SNC maybe it changes :ROFLMAO:... Anyway this speech reminds me a lot of what happened with VengeanceXXX and his "Ethan's Legacy" and how he conflicted with his patrons for the story, how he wanted to set it and how it became ...
 

JiraiyaSennin

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Can you clarify me a little more about that case? I don't know what happened...
A long time ago VengeanceXXX author of "Ethan's Legacy" went really in depression I think (in fact the game often went as "abandoned") for how the story was to be carried out (according to his wishes) and instead how he had been "forced" to keep it going ... after a while in fact a version came out that I think was called "His legacy" in which the author created the game according to his will ... anyway if you are interested then look for the game and read ...
 
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Question. I was following a walkthrough and I messed up one time and got the balance off, like when it told me to buy tanning oil I had to wait the next day to get it and I didn't get to rub it on Melinda the day I was supposed to. Will I still be able to get all of the scenes or will have to restart at that save (which was like week 2 and I'm on week 6?)
 
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