Sheik100

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you can't make it hot if you can't make it at all
Yeah you cant make hot scenes without making scenes. But you can make a hot game with barely a game there. Make scenes first then make a game to deliver them. The ideas or gameplay dont make a H-game good.

All this started from an idea pitch anyway, Im saying its not about executing the idea. Thats the last priority in an H-game.
 

F1forhalp

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Yeah you cant make hot scenes without making scenes. But you can make a hot game with barely a game there. Make scenes first then make a game to deliver them. The ideas or gameplay dont make a H-game good.

All this started from an idea pitch anyway, Im saying its not about executing the idea. Thats the last priority in an H-game.
best to have a story plotted out to some degree. one idea is just one idea, only if you can patch this and that to it and get it formed somehow, there's the chance to get somewhere imo.
 

Zekethor

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Can anyone help with this problem? Im using joiplay with installed latest joiplay and latest update from this game and always force close i don't know why many thanks for help me fap fap
Its true!, But because of JOI play, i played weeks ago and there everything was alright, but now not just FET dont open, but others games too, not all, some work, maybe we can download another version?, Or just wait for a update...
 

ogr blanc

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Back when either 0.9.2 or 0.9.3 released mity said something about how much of the route is left but I wouldn't even say we're halfway through yet

yeah, this feels like it will take at least 4 or 5 updates, maybe double that if they fill it with minigames and nonsense(like most of the updates).
 
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yeah, this feels like it will take at least 4 or 5 updates, maybe double that if they fill it with minigames and nonsense(like most of the updates).
Honestly I don't think so. Usually the updates were released almost weekly, at least 2 per month. Giving the time they don't release anything (2 months), I think the next update will be enormous by the logic.
 

akkeji

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You want the next version to come out, if it is zaofu, it will be very nice to see if the mother opal comes out and someone knows if the new version will come out this month
 

rambo455

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i have about 50 pages of backreading to do since last i was here. so could anyone inform me if there has been any news on the next update ? can't wait to see whats next
 

Spatschick

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Can anyone help with this problem? Im using joiplay with installed latest joiplay and latest update from this game and always force close i don't know why many thanks for help me fap fap
Just go to there patreon and download an older version of the app.
 

shmurfer

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marty the artist for the game said that a week from june 30 will be when the next update comes out
Marty said cbob said it would take a week to merge.

We've had cbob time estimates before.

We'll see if it bears fruit this time.
 

Sheik100

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best to have a story plotted out to some degree. one idea is just one idea, only if you can patch this and that to it and get it formed somehow, there's the chance to get somewhere imo.
Im saying you can go in with no story or anything, if you can make hot scenes thats what matters. An example of a dev that does this is Mercenarys Adventure thats about as generic as it gets. Thats as sexually vanilla as it gets. Combat is simple, questlines are simple.. But all it needs to be good is to have hot scenes and lots of them. His first two games are more generic with less story, the second game being a parody of generic RPG stories and the first game glosses over most of the story. From what I can tell this is one of the more successful series on dlsite and thats just because its hot.

Make hot scenes and work from there. No one minds a cheesy, half-assed plot in a porn scene either.
 
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F1forhalp

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Im saying you can go in with no story or anything, if you can make hot scenes thats what matters. An example of a dev that does this is Mercenarys Adventure thats about as generic as it gets. Thats as sexually vanilla as it gets. Combat is simple, questlines are simple.. But all it needs to be good is to have hot scenes and lots of them. His first two games are more generic with less story, the second game being a parody of generic RPG stories and the first game glosses over most of the story. From what I can tell this is one of the more successful series on dlsite and thats just because its hot.

Make hot scenes and work from there. No one minds a cheesy, half-assed plot in a porn scene either.
i do mind, alot, actually. i started playing FET for the story, and the special style of humor was the cherry on top. way less for the scenes, that's secondary for me, in a game. without story, it's just some gallery. that's not interesting for me. i play games for the sake of playing. if othery want just a fapbook, fine, couldn't care less, but it's not my thang. i don't see it as a game then.
 

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i do mind, alot, actually. i started playing FET for the story, and the special style of humor was the cherry on top. way less for the scenes, that's secondary for me, in a game. without story, it's just some gallery. that's not interesting for me. i play games for the sake of playing. if othery want just a fapbook, fine, couldn't care less, but it's not my thang. i don't see it as a game then.
Truly. I started to play FET because of a friend's recommendation, and simply thought of it as a brainless porn game, but it turned out to be quite the surprise. I think it's fair to say that without the (sometimes premature, callow) humour—and excellent dialogues—, FET wouldn't be the same, and is pretty much the essence of it. The “hot” scenes are merely supplementary, at least for me (book 2 is a good example on how to execute it). — What would we do without our favourite babe Shady, anyway?
 

Sheik100

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I see the problem now, you think Im talking about the end experience while Im actually talking about someone getting started in game development. With FET it started focused on the scenes with a simple story in bk1. Just Aang saving a village and getting to lewd Katara. Its not until bk2 that the story becomes more involved, more girls, substantial route differences and all that. FET started out being hot as the focus and like any good dev they built their skills from bk to bk or project to project.

Look at most successful H devs and they started off on small projects, with simple stories and basic gameplay. With Mercenary's Adventure I was harsher on the story than it deserved to prove a point but even there where the story is meant to be simple the dev has come a long ways since their first game.

Imagine youre a talented dev, do you start off trying to make an ambitious game with your dream story? Most burn out doing that. Focus on the core experience, for H-games thats the scenes and the girls (if straight anyway). So make something someone would want to play and then make it sophisticated if you want after. You can always add story later. Executing the idea is secondary. Unique and interesting gameplay is pointless if the core experience isnt there.

Besides if you wanted to be successful most successful H-games are hot. FET itself wouldnt be so popular if it wasnt hot. Maybe some devs dont care if they are successes but it still feels better if people enjoy what you made.

And I do get people play games for different reasons. But analyze the successful games if you want to make H games. Correct me if Im wrong but they all started out being hot.
 

Zekethor

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Can anyone help with this problem? Im using joiplay with installed latest joiplay and latest update from this game and always force close i don't know why many thanks for help me fap fap
Hey man today I installed a previous version of joi play through apk and it worked again(just remember to copy your saves in to another place)
 

ZoneIT

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I see the problem now, you think Im talking about the end experience while Im actually talking about someone getting started in game development. With FET it started focused on the scenes with a simple story in bk1. Just Aang saving a village and getting to lewd Katara. Its not until bk2 that the story becomes more involved, more girls, substantial route differences and all that. FET started out being hot as the focus and like any good dev they built their skills from bk to bk or project to project.

Look at most successful H devs and they started off on small projects, with simple stories and basic gameplay. With Mercenary's Adventure I was harsher on the story than it deserved to prove a point but even there where the story is meant to be simple the dev has come a long ways since their first game.

Imagine youre a talented dev, do you start off trying to make an ambitious game with your dream story? Most burn out doing that. Focus on the core experience, for H-games thats the scenes and the girls (if straight anyway). So make something someone would want to play and then make it sophisticated if you want after. You can always add story later. Executing the idea is secondary. Unique and interesting gameplay is pointless if the core experience isnt there.

Besides if you wanted to be successful most successful H-games are hot. FET itself wouldnt be so popular if it wasnt hot. Maybe some devs dont care if they are successes but it still feels better if people enjoy what you made.

And I do get people play games for different reasons. But analyze the successful games if you want to make H games. Correct me if Im wrong but they all started out being hot.

That will be logical mate...but if they do that how will they blame depression and burnout to delay the game and get some free payday months in the wallet
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RocketSurgery

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I do feel like a reason MITY are as successful as they are is that pretty much every release has new content. I'm not talking about release timing or delays, lots of developers spend so many updates remastering old scenes because they're not up to their new standards but thats just a month without content for most.

I think the strategy of moving on to new scenes with reckless abandon has been a good idea. Maybe after they're done the can spend a few months polishing up the earlier scenes, that way everybody who wants to continue supporting knows what they're getting.
 
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