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Well, I do not expect you to take my opinion. You have to decide what may be best for you, there is no right way or wrong way. I am sure you will find the right path that may help you to move forward with this project. Since you already have to story written, it takes time to translate the story into VN. I am sure you will be just fine.
Have a great day and be safe...
- Apr 24, 2020
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Some people play these games to fap. Some of do not. Visual stimulation is nice, but if I want to fap, I'll go to real porn. I support the games that keep me engaged with the characters and story. Visuals play a big part, but engaging story and interesting characters take priority for me. The visual are there to enhance the engagement, for me. Maybe it is because I'm in the older demographic. *shrug*
I totally agree with this as I said in another comment that the scene was totally skippable.
But i don't know if you are saying that because of my comments, as I said before, I consider Sukkhon to be a woman in fact i also think she is a lesbian because of the comments before the revenge scene where she says she is going to be uncomfortable doing something like this because of her sexuality.
as I said, one does not degrade anyone for not wanting to date that person, I replied to this.
the way the dev said that, to me is what we call a cotton ceiling which is the complete opposite of "we can have genitalia preference".
or at least that's how I understand it by making us look like bad people who degrades Sukkhon for not dating her because she has a dick and don't look for who she is.
everyone has different opinions and I know that many will not agree with what I said, but one thing is clear and that is that the dev has done a great job of making all kinds of scenes avoidable, therefore that little debate should not have existed since everything was easily avoidable.
I was simply responding that I didn't agree with what the dev said in that comment.
well, I'd better stop talking about this since it is off topic.
I'm almost 50, have ED for a couple years (thank 35+ years type 1 diabetes) can no longer fap. I still play for sex scenes.
After playing each route many times, I finally checked all the pictures to make sure I didn't miss any routes, and now I'm here to give the promised feedback. I wrote a lot in my native language, but I found English was not the right way to express it, so I had to minimize my praise.
Free Pass is unique, and it's the game I'm looking for. It fully meets my highest expectations for a story, including rich routes, interesting plots, different characters, including love and sex, blackmail and coercion, straight and lesbian, misunderstanding and revenge, etc. Thank you to the author's team, and sincerely thank everyone for bringing me the enjoyment.
Regarding the discussion boards, I am troubled by some extreme comments from other players, all routes are not mandatory, all routes are optional, you can completely avoid things you don't like, please don't hurt the authors and people who might like these routes. The gentleman is harmonious without uniformity.
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This update is very rich. (People who have played only one of the routes may disagree.)
1, Tony. Some people hate him. In version 0.396, Tony had a weird smile at the end of his first greeting to Yoon, which I vaguely suspected was a foetus, and when it did happen, it was awesome! I even thought Tony had got Yoon, at least by doing more mean things than just skimping. Later, in front of Yoon, he also had some flirtatious behavior, but sadly, he should never be seen again, haha.
2 jasmine. Originally, I am not her fan, I only love Yoon, but in the scene where she finally defeats Tony, she is too hot, and the pictures and dialogues are just right. I have to admit that she is a mature and attractive woman who is willing to sacrifice for her good friends, and finally retaliates and gets revenge. I am willing to see more of her development. She always helps Build Yoon's confidence and I like her.
3. Sukkon. I think Sukkon is a trustworthy person in character, confident, mature and open. She should take a more active role in the bar. This update already has a scene with all three of them, and in the near future, we'll see all three of them take it a step further.
4 Joseph. Just like I thought, both of them are addicted to each other, which is what I want. Yoon's indulgence seems to be just around the corner. It was very interesting that there was a stranger who witnessed this. The thought that the scene might be in a crowded hospital room was appealing.
5 Zoe is very well lit and Yoon's expression is great.
6Michelle, the key content of this update, has a lot of space to describe, enhance the overall story, those who like childhood sweethearts romantic love friends must like it very much.
7 Free Pass, DJ. Yoon and Daniel's point of view are used here. Great! This is my favorite scene, our girl is going to enjoy a drunken night because of a misunderstanding! I read about Yoon's psychological change, which is very real, and at the same time from Daniel's perspective at the end, it's clear that DJ really got Yoon. Can't wait for the next update, hope to have very intense and powerful sex scenes! There is no need for tenderness in Yoon tonight! ! I love your presentation!
Hope all recognized happy, always support.
I would recommend it to my friends.
Free Pass is unique, and it's the game I'm looking for. It fully meets my highest expectations for a story, including rich routes, interesting plots, different characters, including love and sex, blackmail and coercion, straight and lesbian, misunderstanding and revenge, etc. Thank you to the author's team, and sincerely thank everyone for bringing me the enjoyment.
Regarding the discussion boards, I am troubled by some extreme comments from other players, all routes are not mandatory, all routes are optional, you can completely avoid things you don't like, please don't hurt the authors and people who might like these routes. The gentleman is harmonious without uniformity.
------------------------------- Dividing line -- lol
This update is very rich. (People who have played only one of the routes may disagree.)
1, Tony. Some people hate him. In version 0.396, Tony had a weird smile at the end of his first greeting to Yoon, which I vaguely suspected was a foetus, and when it did happen, it was awesome! I even thought Tony had got Yoon, at least by doing more mean things than just skimping. Later, in front of Yoon, he also had some flirtatious behavior, but sadly, he should never be seen again, haha.
2 jasmine. Originally, I am not her fan, I only love Yoon, but in the scene where she finally defeats Tony, she is too hot, and the pictures and dialogues are just right. I have to admit that she is a mature and attractive woman who is willing to sacrifice for her good friends, and finally retaliates and gets revenge. I am willing to see more of her development. She always helps Build Yoon's confidence and I like her.
3. Sukkon. I think Sukkon is a trustworthy person in character, confident, mature and open. She should take a more active role in the bar. This update already has a scene with all three of them, and in the near future, we'll see all three of them take it a step further.
4 Joseph. Just like I thought, both of them are addicted to each other, which is what I want. Yoon's indulgence seems to be just around the corner. It was very interesting that there was a stranger who witnessed this. The thought that the scene might be in a crowded hospital room was appealing.
5 Zoe is very well lit and Yoon's expression is great.
6Michelle, the key content of this update, has a lot of space to describe, enhance the overall story, those who like childhood sweethearts romantic love friends must like it very much.
7 Free Pass, DJ. Yoon and Daniel's point of view are used here. Great! This is my favorite scene, our girl is going to enjoy a drunken night because of a misunderstanding! I read about Yoon's psychological change, which is very real, and at the same time from Daniel's perspective at the end, it's clear that DJ really got Yoon. Can't wait for the next update, hope to have very intense and powerful sex scenes! There is no need for tenderness in Yoon tonight! ! I love your presentation!
Hope all recognized happy, always support.
I would recommend it to my friends.
Ok dev,I think I get what you mean about the sidekicks,and I know you put a lot of effort and you're doing what you love,I just hope you don't focus too much in interconnection sidekicks stories to build expectations and forget about your special character,I don't normally care to state opinions about the games but I really like your story,I just don't want this one to turn out to be just like any other games of the genre like "The Wife And A Mother",a builder of expectations,thanks to always reply to all of us,I'll wait for the next update good luck.We have been rendering almost 3,000 renders in five months for this game. So, I decided to send the Batman away for a period and while he was away, I let his sidekicks; Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl to take charge.
Hey, I guess most of the problems is because of language. If I misunderstood something I am sorry. I never have an intention to make other people look bad. I am thankful for you playing the game.
I can't even imagine what you have been through. Stay strong, my friend. I respect you. Losing a good former job made me realize living is harder than dying.
As Alley_Cat said in AWAM thread, with a new update, even the pigeons will get some flashbacks. LOL
Don't be angry with me. I'm just kidding. I am having a good mood today. That's all.
Don't be angry with me. I'm just kidding. I am having a good mood today. That's all.
- Sep 7, 2019
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Loved the update! Thanks!
Would have loved to see how Yoon finished off her evening before she woke up (seemingly) alone (?)... but I can wait.
Looking forward to more.
Would have loved to see how Yoon finished off her evening before she woke up (seemingly) alone (?)... but I can wait.
Looking forward to more.
Yes, trying to explain something in your secondary languages can be a problem, especially if you are just learning them.
I remember when I met my girlfriend who is a Japanese exchange student at my university, I tried to "impress" her by flirting with her in Japanese since I was learning the language, my pronunciation was so disastrous that not only did I make a fool of myself but she laughingly told me that I insulted myself with a sentence that I said, I never thought it would be easier for me to read Japanese instead of speaking it.
well leaving that aside i would like to ask you, if having the trans content off will affect whether jasmine can romance sukkhon? what i mean is that i would like for my first game to romance jasmine with sukkhon (i assume it is possible since jasmine has love points with her) but i am not interested in seeing the sexual scenes between them, only the romance.
and also if it is still possible to romance sukkhon with Yoon even with trans content disabled because for my second game if possible it will be polylesbians (Yoon Jasmine and Sukkhon together) since you can see the good chemistry between the 3 of them.
as I said even if I don't want to see the sexual scenes I would still like to see the romance between them as I am still a fan of lesbian romance.
To answer the question, till now, turning the Transgender Content off does not affect the relationship between them.
Thank you so much, my friend.Loved the update! Thanks!
Would have loved to see how Yoon finished off her evening before she woke up (seemingly) alone (?)... but I can wait.
Looking forward to more.
By the way, I know I am being obsessed with yellowish sky. From where I am living in, the general temperature is around 30° C. So, I guess it is quite yellowish here compared to most of the western countries. I like the warm colors. Because of it, I guess it will be look like my characters are always waking up at noon or evening. Hehe.. Isn't it?
- Dec 12, 2020
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Sukkhon is one of the most interesting characters in the game so far. I accept her definition as a "woman", but I have great difficulties actually seeing the sexual encounters with her as lesbian sex. Lesbian sex and a real penis, the word just seems wrong. On this tag i seem to tick quite classically. Perhaps that may also be due to the fact that I haven't met many trans people in my life, so I'm not familiar with the subject
But that's just a play on words. I like this character and find her hot. I hope she's not just a side character, but gets a lot of story. And of course I want to see her sunk her penis in women, at least in Yoon! And if it will be ever possible in the end, and the story behind it is fine, I would even let her impregnate Yoon.
Yes I know. Sometimes I'm a really bad one!
- Aug 22, 2021
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I'm new to the game (only played today) and are pretty confused. Does the game have an actual "free pass" storyline? Because no matter which options I chose, I always ended up with the female main character leaving her husband and then be turned on the lesbian mode
- Jun 13, 2020
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Rather than spam 2 replies ill address 2 comments in one sorry for the TLDR
Zoe struck me at first as a typical "bad girl" trope but she won me over with the whole laundromat scene. she showed some depth of character. rather than just being a cold bitch and using Yoon for her own pleasure, she was protecting herself from getting hurt until Yoon pushed it to the point she could not ignore it anymore and made it pretty clear to Yoon how she felt about her.
Id like to see both her and Jasmine take a dominant hand with Yoon and guide her to a happier place as her primary partners since they both feel to me like they are in love with her.
Sukkhon seems like the cool fashionable and very sexy sister/auntie to Yoon and Michelle (she reminds me of he aunt in The Visit a bit) everyone has a major crush on who is the excitement of the house, always introducing them to new things and everyone loves having her around.
Michelle and Yoon also need to have a happy loving (and kinky) mother/daughter relationship.
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Wasnt directed at you specifically. it was more generalized comment.
I get your coming from a point of personal preference, everyone has them and nothing wrong with not finding dicks appealing, and given that its a work of fiction that can be easily remedied by turning off the content. I am just not sure how anyone can say "she is a woman but it's not lesbian sex" because by definition it is. Especially since you can turn on Pure Lesbian Mode or turn Off TG content which if im not mistaken removes all visual cocks from the game.
But as you can see from comments and likes a few down from yours, Neanderthal logic still rules some brains and the be all and end off of a person's identity and worth is if they have a dick or not. My issue is with them and the people who are trying to passive aggressively force After Choices to remove the content all together despite it being easily avoidable because they think the world should revolve around their personal preferences. To them I say, learn Ren'Py and Daz, make your own stories, let AC make his own.
Its like a game with an NTR switch that removes all NTR (Power Vacuum as an example) and then complaining about there being NTR in the game despite never experiencing even a single frame of it.
I can accept "She is a woman but I dont enjoy the dick in the content". thats a perfectly legit feeling, I dislike most body hair immensely so games with armpit hair on women or super hairy guys are a turn off for me. But you can still turn it off so the people complaining about it are simply complaining to hear themselves complain
So I understand your position, ive been disappointed by several games with super hot models who about 1/3 of the way in suddenly show off armpit hair. I imagine its a similar situation seeing that content if its not your thing.
Jasmine definitely fits best with Yoon in a one on one setting, 100% agree with you there shes clearly been in love with Yoon for a long time.Oh, yes. Jasmine moves in with Yoon and Michelle, forming a happy filthy family.
Zoe struck me at first as a typical "bad girl" trope but she won me over with the whole laundromat scene. she showed some depth of character. rather than just being a cold bitch and using Yoon for her own pleasure, she was protecting herself from getting hurt until Yoon pushed it to the point she could not ignore it anymore and made it pretty clear to Yoon how she felt about her.
Id like to see both her and Jasmine take a dominant hand with Yoon and guide her to a happier place as her primary partners since they both feel to me like they are in love with her.
Sukkhon seems like the cool fashionable and very sexy sister/auntie to Yoon and Michelle (she reminds me of he aunt in The Visit a bit) everyone has a major crush on who is the excitement of the house, always introducing them to new things and everyone loves having her around.
Michelle and Yoon also need to have a happy loving (and kinky) mother/daughter relationship.
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Mheka
Wasnt directed at you specifically. it was more generalized comment.
I get your coming from a point of personal preference, everyone has them and nothing wrong with not finding dicks appealing, and given that its a work of fiction that can be easily remedied by turning off the content. I am just not sure how anyone can say "she is a woman but it's not lesbian sex" because by definition it is. Especially since you can turn on Pure Lesbian Mode or turn Off TG content which if im not mistaken removes all visual cocks from the game.
But as you can see from comments and likes a few down from yours, Neanderthal logic still rules some brains and the be all and end off of a person's identity and worth is if they have a dick or not. My issue is with them and the people who are trying to passive aggressively force After Choices to remove the content all together despite it being easily avoidable because they think the world should revolve around their personal preferences. To them I say, learn Ren'Py and Daz, make your own stories, let AC make his own.
Its like a game with an NTR switch that removes all NTR (Power Vacuum as an example) and then complaining about there being NTR in the game despite never experiencing even a single frame of it.
I can accept "She is a woman but I dont enjoy the dick in the content". thats a perfectly legit feeling, I dislike most body hair immensely so games with armpit hair on women or super hairy guys are a turn off for me. But you can still turn it off so the people complaining about it are simply complaining to hear themselves complain
So I understand your position, ive been disappointed by several games with super hot models who about 1/3 of the way in suddenly show off armpit hair. I imagine its a similar situation seeing that content if its not your thing.
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- Jul 17, 2021
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Yes, Zoe does love Yoon. But with her it's mostly about sex, by the looks of it so far. She can help Yoon on her journey of discovery about her sexuality. I'm not sure what she could contribute as a long time partner in a (poly) relationship or the support she could offer Yoon. Yes, she is still young and has room to grow. Now as she is, I just can't see her in the endgame. If we are going for a harem scenario, then you can count her in. And you could throw in even Tamara.
In my playthrough Yoon is dominant and the pillow fight is pretty sweet, even when Jas lets Yoon win, you can see the love and tenderness.
And it could lead to an interesting dynamic between them, for example when Yoon takes Jasmine's cigarette. What is Yoon to Michelle after she discards of Joseph? Step mom? Friend? Close friend? There was a lot of potential, but where do we stand now and where does it lead to. I think more development needs to happen. I am looking forward to it.
Also, according to the dev, not all characters will make it to the finish line. I wouldn't be surprised if Zoe served only as a stepping stone for Yoon.
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- Dec 12, 2020
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These are typical conflicts like the ones I read in this forum every day. I've tried many people to talk to their consciences. But with little success.
I admit that I am also not sure whether sex with Sukkhon is actually lesbian sex. But that's just a play on words that I leave to others. I don't care much. I think Sukkhon is great. And I look forward to seeing her sexually active. No matter what it is called
And I can only encourage AfterChoices not to let themselves be penned down, especially not to allow themselves to be forced to delete something from the game. The forum has to learn that a game is the vision of the developer. A developer determines where to go. And everyone has to accept that, no ifs or buts. And other developers should also follow this example.
- Nov 14, 2020
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Ah - that's the bit that I was missing for Sukkhon to help Jasmine. I chose for Jasmine to give Tony money as I did nt want to see Jasmine become a slave. However if I know it is only a short term thing and can then subsequently trigger the choice for Sukkhon to help out, then I will have to bear short period of Jasmine submitting.
But I don't like it. It feels contrary to everything we have seen so far of Jasmine, especially with Jasmine trying to persuade Yoon her self to stand up and be more assertive for what she wants.