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Another Nicki war.. It’d be funny if it weren’t so played out..
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- Aug 5, 2016
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Exactly, she used the same fingers
- Apr 26, 2017
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Still hope one day Neon will be able to put those short stories in the game. They are amazing.
It goes to show how good the branching of writing in this game is that you can summarize the characters as either acting A on this path or acting B on that path. While remaining consistent that A behaviors and B behaviors are still them as the same person.Sent this about 6 months ago and I stand by it. All of these girls have their issues. It all depends on what triggers you.
Add in Risa, who we now know is a drug addict and I know of at least one person that triggers quite a bit.
But yeah, Viola is still perfect and innocent and i'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
This game's writing is really good
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I think that for most characters in FiN, Nicki included - you’re sympathizing for them in some way, but it’s also frustrating that you feel some sense of responsibility for their well-being. Meanwhile you’re trying to have a good fap.
Whore//not whore; rape and treat like shit but cum in guilt//love but is it real or do I just want sexy-time; boy with a vagina//girl acting boyish…. Let’s just say for much of the characters and events, it’s complicated.
Whore//not whore; rape and treat like shit but cum in guilt//love but is it real or do I just want sexy-time; boy with a vagina//girl acting boyish…. Let’s just say for much of the characters and events, it’s complicated.
Gabbi is the character where I most feel like this is just a fantasy game and doesn’t need to be so serious. Almost everyone else I get the feeling of real consequences for being a little rapey.
- Jul 12, 2020
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Yes you are.
It will actually make her even more likeable. Why this Nikki war crap is utter bollocks. When done, it will be as it should have been originally. No sex for money etc etc.
- Mar 25, 2021
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So what exactly is changing do you know?
Will she never have been in a relationship with Brent or stuff like that?
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No that's staying afaik, it's just the whole interraction with MC when she comes to ask for money is the main I believe. There's some other stuff too I believe but that's the important stuff. Will make her less mercanary and gold-digger'ish and more a genuine friend in need.
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That's a bit dissapointing for me because I liked giving my princess money as soon as she asked for it.
In fact I was upset I couldn't give her more.
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Can still give it to her, she just ain't offering to spread em in exchange for it. I'm sure the option may still be there but it will be done better to be less cringe and business transaction like.
- Nov 1, 2017
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Who would have thought that the biggest battle in the Nicki war would be the update after she disappears from the narrative forever? Because, you know, that happened if you played the dark route. Nicki is gone, Viola is gone; Gabby, Mason, Pepper, and Brittani are scared and Guy is a miserable prick. Well, well, well... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions. How the turntables have... turned.
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tldr; Currently at 900 renders. Alex's scene is done. Working on finishing Risa's sex scenes, so I can get into Mason's scenes. Once Mason's scenes are finished I'll be setting a formal release schedule.
Probably! The major emotional/story beats will remain the same: Brent fucked up and got himself and Nicki in trouble, and the player is presented with the chance to fix the problem, sparking the idea of creating a charitable organization.
The stuff that's changing is mostly about fleshing out the world, in the first chapter. We'll see more of Nicki and MC interacting at work, and get a better idea of their dynamic.
We'll actually see the sales pitch from gamer edge-lord Kobalt, which convinced MC to sink all his money into his crypto nonsense, Kobalt Koin.
We'll also meet Carolina, as well as the night-time concierge that Risa replaces. We'll see more of Guy's crappy apartment, to fully appreciate the change that comes with him living in a nice penthouse condo. We'll see more of Brent being Brent.
Basically, in addition to overhauling the events around Nicki, I want to set up some things so that later events feel a bit more like payoff. If we meet Carolina and have no idea she has a kid, it's a little more interesting when we discover Maya, later. If we meet the grumpy old guy that Risa replaces, then it's a little more shocking when we walk in and find a pretty girl behind the desk. If we see Guy's crappy apartment, the later reveal that he's bought and renovated that building has more context/weight.
Just a bunch of stuff like that!
Honestly, the reason I've kinda backed off of doing more of those text stories for the blog, is because I think they just make more sense to do in the actual game. I think Ashe's story is especially important, as the whole reveal vis a vis her troubled history as a one-time model, really needs to be highlighted in-game.Still hope one day Neon will be able to put those short stories in the game. They are amazing.
Brent's one-off story was my first stab at this, and since people seemed to like it, I'll definitely be doing more for the girls. I have one in mind for Pepper that I think would be awesome.
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That sounds awesome thank you for putting my mind at ease.
Also, goodness me Alex looks so sexy.
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Excited for more Mason. Head-pats at the ready.
I don't get this personally. Gabby's dark route scene feels the least intensely evil to me, which ofc shouldn't undermine that her scene is still extremely fucked up, but I still absolutely get a feeling of impending consequences. Her look of fear and "are you going to rape me?" didn't do anything for you?
And her quivering at the bookstore? It's crushing And yeah, if you're used to more poorly-written or simply lighter games, the "dark route" is either more of a super-kinky route or just not all that impactful on you while you're playing, kinda like how shooting civilians in GTA feels or something. This game, though, imo completely redefines what a dark route is. Add to that the depth of the characters, and I totally get why some people feel horrified at what goes on in that route. I guess I've never had too much of a problem separating games from the real world in that regard, though admittedly even I've cringed at some of the scenes because the characters are just way too sympathetic haha.
BTW, if you feel too guilty playing the dark route, you should try the darker end of the corruption route. You can still be mean, but it isn't as horrible as the dark route.
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Interesting ideas, but some seem stronger than others. Seeing the original relationship between the MC and Nicki would be a huge help for the early game, so that's a clear winner. Getting more time with 'professional' Carolina before we meet Maya could add some nice shades to her character. [Assuming we have time to explore those shades. Carolina's date is currently penciled in for something like 3rd quarter 2025; I love her to bits, but she's not one of the central pillars of the game. Maybe she doesn't need the extra focus?]
On the other hand, I don't know if we really need to see any more of Brett being Brett: say what you will about the guy, he establishes his persona with remarkable efficiency. Likewise introducing the guy who created Kobalt Koin feels like a waste of time. The MC blundering his way into money is a fine origin as is. We don't need to get further into the weeds unless Kobalt's going to figure into the plot later - and I don't see his inclusion opening up a lot in terms of storytelling opportunities.
I'm also reasonably sure I'll wind up wishing we could swap Risa back for the grump, but I'll allow that might be a me problem.