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NeegNog

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But, to zoom out a bit.. One of the themes I keep hitting in the game, is that violence really doesn't solve much. Guy gets physical with Erik the homeless pimp, and nearly gets stabbed over a homeless kid's backpack. Jamie decks Guy, and loses his girlfriend. Guy confronts Marcus and Lucien, and nearly gets his head blown off. Guy learns a single self-defense move, and winds up in jail.
He could be any one of the guys , or , or , or .

I've said it before, but why I find Lucien compelling isn't because he's some larger-than-life villain. It's because his brand of evil is so common and banal.
Just to let you know, one of the most important reasons why governments are in control is because they control the violence to their own legitimacy. Just because you feel safe because of the "police" doesn't mean that you can be a docile sheep... but sure, there are moments when you need to back down as it is not worth it , but there are moments when you certainly have to fight. violence might not be solving anything for you but for a guy that has nothing to fear it can fix quite alot The guy did the right thing by assaulting the rude detective; he had it coming, but of course you can't attack the "law"...also fuck the homeless guy with the knife; hope we can get him in the future...
 

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But, to zoom out a bit.. One of the themes I keep hitting in the game, is that violence really doesn't solve much. Guy gets physical with Erik the homeless pimp, and nearly gets stabbed over a homeless kid's backpack. Jamie decks Guy, and loses his girlfriend. Guy confronts Marcus and Lucien, and nearly gets his head blown off. Guy learns a single self-defense move, and winds up in jail.
There is quite some irony in three out of your four examples being violence not working for Guy because he tries it on someone who is willing to use more violence than he can. Violence worked out pretty well for the other guy in each of those situations.
 
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Joshy92

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I definitely don't think violence would suit good Guy and bad Guy is too weak and cowardly to fight someone who can fight back imo.

Plus, what would the girls think? I don't want them to see blood, violence or have to be around that sort of thing at all.
 
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Just to let you know, one of the most important reasons why governments are in control is because they control the violence to their own legitimacy. Just because you feel safe because of the "police" doesn't mean that you can be a docile sheep... but sure, there are moments when you need to back down as it is not worth it , but there are moments when you certainly have to fight. violence might not be solving anything for you but for a guy that has nothing to fear it can fix quite alot The guy did the right thing by assaulting the rude detective; he had it coming, but of course you can't attack the "law"...also fuck the homeless guy with the knife; hope we can get him in the future...
"verbal assault of a public official while he/she's on duty": 6 months to 3 years in jail in my country;

"assaulting a public officer": 6 months to 5 years in jail in my country.

(yours?)

So, is Guy a fucking idiot? well, after I watched the "Guy in jail" scene in order to see what he missed in that infamous picture I decided that MY storyline had to follow the "Guy is not a moron - not going to jail" route :whistle: :whistle:.
 

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"verbal assault of a public official while he/she's on duty": 6 months to 3 years in jail in my country;

"assaulting a public officer": 6 months to 5 years in jail in my country.

(yours?)

So, is Guy a fucking idiot? well, after I watched the "Guy in jail" scene in order to see what he missed in that infamous picture I decided that MY storyline had to follow the "Guy is not a moron - not going to jail" route :whistle: :whistle:.
now that i think about it , it could be a smart way to get some dirt on a detective , maybe play it out so gaby films him doing some shit to her...thats a cool dark path concept
 

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"verbal assault of a public official while he/she's on duty": 6 months to 3 years in jail in my country;

"assaulting a public officer": 6 months to 5 years in jail in my country.

(yours?)

So, is Guy a fucking idiot? well, after I watched the "Guy in jail" scene in order to see what he missed in that infamous picture I decided that MY storyline had to follow the "Guy is not a moron - not going to jail" route :whistle: :whistle:.
you did the smart thing , but its still lame as he got away whit it himself
 

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"verbal assault of a public official while he/she's on duty": 6 months to 3 years in jail in my country;

"assaulting a public officer": 6 months to 5 years in jail in my country.

(yours?)

So, is Guy a fucking idiot? well, after I watched the "Guy in jail" scene in order to see what he missed in that infamous picture I decided that MY storyline had to follow the "Guy is not a moron - not going to jail" route :whistle: :whistle:.
I only sent my Bad Guy to jail because I wanted justice for all his rapes.
 

Dawson20022

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Hey fellas, i played this game a while ago and when i came back most of the options i remembered were gone. Was the game remade ? I tried following the guide that was made but the options don't pop like they should
 

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Hey fellas, i played this game a while ago and when i came back most of the options i remembered were gone. Was the game remade ? I tried following the guide that was made but the options don't pop like they should
You're probably playing the pg version
 

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"verbal assault of a public official while he/she's on duty": 6 months to 3 years in jail in my country;

"assaulting a public officer": 6 months to 5 years in jail in my country.

(yours?)

So, is Guy a fucking idiot? well, after I watched the "Guy in jail" scene in order to see what he missed in that infamous picture I decided that MY storyline had to follow the "Guy is not a moron - not going to jail" route :whistle: :whistle:.
Yea unless he's really possessive of Gabby there's legit no reason for him to attack the guard in a police station for talking shit to Gabby. Made for a funny ending though
 

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There is quite some irony in three out of your four examples being violence not working for Guy because he tries it on someone who is willing to use more violence than he can. Violence worked out pretty well for the other guy in each of those situations.
Suuuuure, but I think that also represents the circular nature of violence. If Guy were to escalate to trying to have Lucien killed, where does that end? Maybe the attempt fails, and Lucien decides to kill Guy first. Maybe whoever Guy hires realizes there's way more money to be made extorting the millionaire murderer, than there is in killing some low-level pimp. Maybe Guy just gets caught by the police, who prosecute, convict, and execute him.

And this is all putting aside the fact that, as stated, I just don't find the, "Just shoot him," ending super interesting. I mean, spoiler, but considering that Mason has a method of potentially tracking down the girls in Lucien's videos, I find that idea way more interesting. Where'd those girls end up? What do their lives look like? How does Risa reckon with her complicity when confronted with the girl who she inadverdently set up?

All that potentially interesting story stuff goes away, as soon as Duke Nukem kicks in the door to Lucien's place, and splatters his synapses across the wall.
 

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I do wonder if Lucien finds out about dark Guy's dark deeds and tries to use that to try and blackmail him into doing his bidding :oops:
 

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Haven't played the game for almost 2 years probably and only recently finally got to play again.

Man, I fucking love this game - characters, dialogues, choices, almost every choice leads to a different conversation/scene, some differ slightly, some have more significant changes. I was replaying some routes again and again)
Just to clarify I only played as a very nice/nice guy, can only imagine how scenes differ on an evil route as well.

The choice+outcome that I remembered the most probably would be a scene when you pick up Viola during Ashe's date, depending on whether you ask her for a special show or not (no rapey or degrading stuff) she behaves so differently, and honestly I liked this strict Viola so much more than submissive and polite.

Anyways, now for my favorite characters.

1) My absolute favorite is Risa.
I fucking love her storyline, it really can be a great redemption story for her with some romantic ending with a Guy at the end. And from what I already read in a thread - Neon has great plans on her story-line, damn, I can't wait.
I also like her personality in general, how she can be silly from time to time with her jokes and innuendos, and also can be very serious when needed.
On top of that - Risa is smoking hot and her daddy issues turn me on so much :) , even though it was never my kink.

Other girls I am interested in are Ashe, Alex and Brittani.

2) Ashe is "like" a very kinky and a sweet girl at the same time, and she "like" has her charm, so I "like" really enjoyed some scenes with her, oh right, thanks for giving so many options during lewds, forgot to mention that.

3) Alex - well, there weren't really that much scenes with her but there is something about her I can't put my finger on, nevertheless I'm looking forward to her storyline as well. Oh, and I liked how she mocked and made Nicki jealous on her FWB path, and afterwards Nicki's jealous scene was priceless :ROFLMAO: :

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4) As for Brittani - I am so gonna bang Isabella the 1st opportunity arrives (if it ever arrives), it will be one of my routes and I am really curious how it plays out :sneaky: Also I think when it comes only to looks Brittany would be at the very least tied for me with Risa, what a gorgeous girl.

Well, all in all, mostly all I wanted to say, other characters are also great, it's just the ones above I found the most interesting personally.

Great game! Thanks Neon.
 
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The_Undying

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Yea I must be in the minority but I'm wanting some more Alex content. She's reminiscent of G. Jacobs and getting down with her while she's in that sportswear-type stuff. Could be some quality shit. And if she's as flexible as she is in shape, those types very often dig anal (or maybe she isn't if you're on MC's dark path) - gymnasts especially. I was hoping for some Alex content in this last update but alas, it appears she isn't that popular.
 
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I seen neon mention there will be a month time jump for ch.11, which feels like a lot. Wasn't Viola ready to be a maid almoat immediately, then fallout from some other relationships(for those on Gabby, I'm personally not, and Cassie showing up. You also would have the movie project be on hold for all that time, and other things with other characters too. Idk a month feels like a big jump imo, when maybe 1 week could be enough, maybe slightly more with 1 1/2 or 2 weeks.
It won't be an immediate jump. Some things will be hashed out beforehand, with the jump coming a little later in the chapter. But, there's a good bit of minutiae that I think can be best addressed in an extended montage. Like, does anyone want to see the full process for renovating Barron Books? Or can we just jump ahead to it being finished? And there's a lot of love interest plotlines that I think get more interesting, just by skipping past a lot of the early setup stuff.

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Haven't played the game for almost 2 years probably and only recently finally got to play again.

Man, I fucking love this game - characters, dialogues, choices, almost every choice leads to a different conversation/scene, some differ slightly, some have more significant changes. I was replaying some routes again and again)
Just to clarify I only played as a very nice/nice guy, can only imagine how scenes differ on an evil route as well.

The choice+outcome that I remembered the most probably would be a scene when you pick up Viola during Ashe's date, depending on whether you ask her for a special show or not (no rapey or degrading stuff) she behaves so differently, and honestly I liked this strict Viola so much more than submissive and polite.

Anyways, now for my favorite characters.

1) My absolute favorite is Risa.
I fucking love her storyline, it really can be a great redemption story for her with some romantic ending with a Guy at the end. And from what I already read in a thread - Neon has great plans on her story-line, damn, I can't wait.
I also like her personality in general, how she can be silly from time to time with her jokes and innuendos, and also can be very serious when needed.
On top of that - Risa is smoking hot and her daddy issues turn me on so much hahah, even though it was never my kink.

Other girls I am interested in are Ashe, Alex and Brittani.

2) Ashe is "like" a very kinky and a sweet girl at the same time, and she "like" has her charm, so I "like" really enjoyed some scenes with her, oh right, thanks for giving so many options during lewds, forgot to mention that.

3) Alex - well, there weren't really that much scenes with her but there is something about I can't put my finger on, nevertheless I'm looking forward to her storyline as well. Oh, and I liked how she mocked and made Nicki jealous on her FWB path, and afterwards Nicki's jealous scene was priceless :ROFLMAO: :

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4) As for Brittani - I am so gonna bang Isabella the 1st opportunity arrives (if it ever arrives), it will be one of my routes and I am really curious how it plays out hahah. Also I think when it comes only to looks Brittany would be at the very least tied for me with Risa, what a gorgeous girl.

Well, all in all, mostly all I wanted to say, other characters are also great, it's just the ones above I found the most interesting personally.

Great game! Thanks Neon.
Yeah I love Risa as well. Even tho I think Nicki is my favorite at the end of the day I keep flip flopping if I like Nicki or Risa more haha. Then of course I love Ashe haha those 3 are my favorite no question I feel like I change my mind between those 3 very often who is my favorite but mostly between Risa and Nicki
 
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It won't be an immediate jump. Some things will be hashed out beforehand, with the jump coming a little later in the chapter. But, there's a good bit of minutiae that I think can be best addressed in an extended montage. Like, does anyone want to see the full process for renovating Barron Books? Or can we just jump ahead to it being finished? And there's a lot of love interest plotlines that I think get more interesting, just by skipping past a lot of the early setup stuff.

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Alright, cool, sounds good and I understand. Also hopefully we will have an option to get viola to wear sexier outfits on her romance path too at some point.
 

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Yeah I love Risa as well. Even tho I think Nicki is my favorite at the end of the day I keep flip flopping if I like Nicki or Risa more haha. Then of course I love Ashe haha those 3 are my favorite no question I feel like I change my mind between those 3 very often who is my favorite but mostly between Risa and Nicki
Nicki is fine, just probably not my type of girl, sometimes she is so sweet and scenes with her are so wholesome, but sometimes her bratty attitude just drives me nuts :ROFLMAO:, well, she is who she is)
I still have saves for her route.

as for best girl - yeah, I don't have problem with deciding with my favorite, Risa is far ahead of everybody))
but Ashe/Alex/Brit are tied) I consider them all as my 2nd pick))) at least so far
 

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It won't be an immediate jump. Some things will be hashed out beforehand, with the jump coming a little later in the chapter. But, there's a good bit of minutiae that I think can be best addressed in an extended montage. Like, does anyone want to see the full process for renovating Barron Books? Or can we just jump ahead to it being finished? And there's a lot of love interest plotlines that I think get more interesting, just by skipping past a lot of the early setup stuff.

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Can I just say that I hope we get to see Alex's reaction to the water bottle incident before that time skip :devilish: Some of us need to see her drink it :BootyTime:
 
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