Master of Puppets

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Suuuuure, but I think that also represents the circular nature of violence. If Guy were to escalate to trying to have Lucien killed, where does that end? Maybe the attempt fails, and Lucien decides to kill Guy first. Maybe whoever Guy hires realizes there's way more money to be made extorting the millionaire murderer, than there is in killing some low-level pimp. Maybe Guy just gets caught by the police, who prosecute, convict, and execute him.
Is that the standard of writing we can expect going forward? Looks like I might have been right when I guessed that Lucien's introduction was the point that the game turns to crap.
 
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the one thing i really disliked alot about the update is that Brent gets off without a beating.
Hey, you can't say he didn't do the work to avoid that beatdown. You can call Brett anything you want but can't call him slow. He beat feet like Jack Spade running away from the Evans midgets in "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka!." He was faster than Evan running away from the cops in "Superbad." He broke a land speed record and Guy needs to stop skipping leg day.
 

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In Ch.3 when you meet Mason for the 2nd time when you give him money he already has a a name( before he introduces himself) in the dialogue box and a later game Avatar. To me his Avatar should reflect his current look.
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yeah that's the one thing that bugs me. It's why I think no avatar is usually better in most games if a character looks change. But it's nice to do something different at the same like including a avatar, I don't think many AVN's do have one.
 

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In Ch.3 when you meet Mason for the 2nd time when you give him money he already has a a name( before he introduces himself) in the dialogue box and a later game Avatar. To me his Avatar should reflect his current look.
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All the avatars were kind of a late addition to the game, and when first introduced I was trying to go more representational than literal, so I wouldn't constantly be changing them between chapters. Buuuut, I agree, and I'll correct this eventually. Ditto with Nicki's Chapter One look differing from her later look. I've actually got the files for both, but I need to update the side image files and change the speaker. Didn't really see the point in doing them for Chapter 1 though, with all of that changing soon.

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Will there be any Brittany's mom content in any future update?
She'll appear at Brittani's audition, which is scheduled for Chapter 12.

Is that the standard of writing we can expect going forward? Looks like I might have been right when I guessed that Lucien's introduction was the point that the game turns to crap.
I'd say the content of the game is representative of the standard of writing, and not three hypotheticals I dashed off while I was sitting on the toilet. But, to be clear: Your position is that Guy should be able to pay someone $5k to commit murder, a felony that carries with it the possibility of life in prison or execution. I don't think I can even get a used Toyota Tercel for $5k, nowadays.

Hey Neon you missed the Britt update spoiler for those of us into that sort of thing. Id normally not say anything but she's the only lady left out
You mean for the examples of where she might be after the month-long jump in Chapter 11? Honestly, I don't see her position as having changed much in that gap. She'll be making decent tips at Cheetahs, and booking a poor-paying modeling job here or there, while prepping for her do-over audition. Maybe she's being pressured to join in on the Chesty Cheetahs VIP nights.

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All the avatars were kind of a late addition to the game, and when first introduced I was trying to go more representational than literal, so I wouldn't constantly be changing them between chapters. Buuuut, I agree, and I'll correct this eventually. Ditto with Nicki's Chapter One look differing from her later look. I've actually got the files for both, but I need to update the side image files and change the speaker. Didn't really see the point in doing them for Chapter 1 though, with all of that changing soon.

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She'll appear at Brittani's audition, which is scheduled for Chapter 12.



I'd say the content of the game is representative of the standard of writing, and not three hypotheticals I dashed off while I was sitting on the toilet. But, to be clear: Your position is that Guy should be able to pay someone $5k to commit murder, a felony that carries with it the possibility of life in prison or execution. I don't think I can even get a used Toyota Tercel for $5k, nowadays.



You mean for the examples of where she might be after the month-long jump in Chapter 11? Honestly, I don't see her position as having changed much in that gap. She'll be making decent tips at Cheetahs, and booking a poor-paying modeling job here or there, while prepping for her do-over audition. Maybe she's being pressured to join in on the Chesty Cheetahs VIP nights.

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It ain't easy.... being chesty :cool:
 
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NeonGhosts A suggestion I have that could be cool is the ability to hide the quick menu on the bottom, also the option to hide the portraits. I think it could create for a overall nicer display and I like a clean display. If it is too hard to implement, I understand, just a suggestion of something I would like and maybe a few others.
 
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I thought I was threading the needle with the MC not being a complete rapist psychopath, but also being a scumbag narcissist who uses his newfound wealth in a quid pro quo manner to coerce women into sleeping with him, while always honoring his part of the deal and helping them financially. A delusional fuck that thinks he is just getting something out of helping these poor women in a win win situation.

This characterization I had for the MC, which was held up really well up to now, seems to be faltering. It swerved into good guy MC with some demons territory, instead of a scumbag with a a code of conduct.
 
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Master of Puppets

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I'd say the content of the game is representative of the standard of writing, and not three hypotheticals I dashed off while I was sitting on the toilet. But, to be clear: Your position is that Guy should be able to pay someone $5k to commit murder, a felony that carries with it the possibility of life in prison or execution. I don't think I can even get a used Toyota Tercel for $5k, nowadays.
My position is that he doesn't know someone to do it. But if he did, that is about what it would cost. Even if it were ten times as much that's still quite affordable for him. My position is it is the lack of contacts that would stop him, not "you have to be multi-billionaire rich to have someone assassinated" bullshit. We aren't talking about killing the mayor here. If a drug dealer gets shot, the cops are not exactly going to turn the town upside-down to get to the bottom of it.
 
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Suuuuure, but I think that also represents the circular nature of violence. If Guy were to escalate to trying to have Lucien killed, where does that end? Maybe the attempt fails, and Lucien decides to kill Guy first. Maybe whoever Guy hires realizes there's way more money to be made extorting the millionaire murderer, than there is in killing some low-level pimp. Maybe Guy just gets caught by the police, who prosecute, convict, and execute him.

And this is all putting aside the fact that, as stated, I just don't find the, "Just shoot him," ending super interesting. I mean, spoiler, but considering that Mason has a method of potentially tracking down the girls in Lucien's videos, I find that idea way more interesting. Where'd those girls end up? What do their lives look like? How does Risa reckon with her complicity when confronted with the girl who she inadverdently set up?

All that potentially interesting story stuff goes away, as soon as Duke Nukem kicks in the door to Lucien's place, and splatters his synapses across the wall.
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I personally see no reason to have Lucien assassinated. For me that would make for some lazy writing , I don't care if he is rich as hell and can afford once he gets some contacts. I much rather there be more conflict with him as one of the main bad guys and have Guy deal with him himself rather than just pay someone cause he can. Having someone kill him to me feels like why even include him in the first place.

Not just that if that was an option I would want that to be only on the Dark Path , I would not want Guy to do that if on the light path at all.
 

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but I need to update the side image files and change the speaker
I noticed that newly introduced characters already have a name above the dialogue box, before they introduce themselves to MC.
Alex could be funnily done if her name showed up as Jeremy? for a moment since it was the name they speculated in the scene before.
Ashleigh's name is known to the player before MC asks about it in the bar.
Mason's name is also seen in the alley scene with Ash, even though it will be revealed in the next chapter.

I guess it boils down to, are we experiencing the story through the eyes of MC, or 3rd person. In these games typically the characters name above the dialogue box is more of a descriptor like "blonde girl" or "homeless dude" before the MC gets to know their actual name.


Also. Why does the SS version need a patch? i thought that was a holdover from Patreon days.
 
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Just a reminder, but I did , if you're wanting to see more of her.
Definitely appreciate the bonus content but if I'm being honest, Alex being Alex wearing the kind of sporty wear is part of the big appeal for me and not so much an alter ego succubus type deal. I'm one of those context fellas too, I guess.
 
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