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Wolfram99

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but I need to update the side image files and change the speaker
I noticed that newly introduced characters already have a name above the dialogue box, before they introduce themselves to MC.
Alex could be funnily done if her name showed up as Jeremy? for a moment since it was the name they speculated in the scene before.
Ashleigh's name is known to the player before MC asks about it in the bar.
Mason's name is also seen in the alley scene with Ash, even though it will be revealed in the next chapter.

I guess it boils down to, are we experiencing the story through the eyes of MC, or 3rd person. In these games typically the characters name above the dialogue box is more of a descriptor like "blonde girl" or "homeless dude" before the MC gets to know their actual name.


Also. Why does the SS version need a patch? i thought that was a holdover from Patreon days.
 
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The_Undying

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Just a reminder, but I did , if you're wanting to see more of her.
Definitely appreciate the bonus content but if I'm being honest, Alex being Alex wearing the kind of sporty wear is part of the big appeal for me and not so much an alter ego succubus type deal. I'm one of those context fellas too, I guess.
 

MilesEdgeworth

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Without spoiling too much will there be a continuation of that shower scene with Alex in the future?

I thought I was threading the needle with the MC not being a complete rapist psychopath, but also being a scumbag narcissist who uses his newfound wealth in a quid pro quo manner to coerce women into sleeping with him, while always honoring his part of the deal and helping them financially. A delusional fuck that thinks he is just getting something out of helping these poor women in a win win situation.

This characterization I had for the MC, which was held up really well up to now, seems to be faltering. It swerved into good guy MC with some demons territory, instead of a scumbag with a a code of conduct.
Strangely enough, my MC has also somewhat changed from my initial play-through, but it's based on the girl. Like Gabby and the waitress, I treat like shit. I'll probs do the same to the stepmom once I get that ability. I leave Mason alone. Ashe, while fun to go dark on, I'm currently corrupting Ashe, ditto viola, and my MC is trying to romance Britt and Carolina, so it's a nice healthy blend.

The only reason I haven't gone dark on Risa is because of who she is and who she works with; otherwise...
 
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Without spoiling too much will there be a continuation of that shower scene with Alex in the future?


Strangely enough my MC has somewhat changedas well from my initial playthrough but its based on the girl. Like gabby and the waitress, I treat like shit. I'll probs do the same to the stepmom once I get that ability. I pretty much leave Mason alone whereas before.... Ashe while fun to go dark on Im currently in the process of corrupting, ditto viola and my mc is trying to romance britt and Carolina so i'ts a nice healthy blend.

Only reason that I haven't gone dark on Risa is cuz of who she is and who she works with, otherwise...
I can't bring my MC to be mean to Gabby, poor kid deserves to feel loved.
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Without spoiling too much will there be a continuation of that shower scene with Alex in the future?


Strangely enough my MC has somewhat changedas well from my initial playthrough but its based on the girl. Like gabby and the waitress, I treat like shit. I'll probs do the same to the stepmom once I get that ability. I pretty much leave Mason alone whereas before.... Ashe while fun to go dark on Im currently in the process of corrupting, ditto viola and my mc is trying to romance britt and Carolina so i'ts a nice healthy blend.

Only reason that I haven't gone dark on Risa is cuz of who she is and who she works with, otherwise...
I can't even imagine the bipolar ending you're going to get :LOL:
 
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Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

Changelog:
Final version of Chapter 10!

Adds bug fixes, a small tweak to Chapter 9, and a few pieces of new art.

Win/Linux:


Mac:

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There is a new developer update, but won't post it, it's not a whole lot, just know billing will be paused and he will enable vacation mode.
 
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thoughty

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putting in the taboo patch makes it so that the game doesnt work after a couple of dialogue is there a way to fix this?
 

SonsOfLiberty

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putting in the taboo patch makes it so that the game doesnt work after a couple of dialogue is there a way to fix this?
It works just fine; and dialogue works just fine as well.

Sounds like something on your end as I've tested/played this game multiple times and from the beginning with/without the patch and all is good.
 

TheCrimsonRevenger

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People really hate her even though she's the main girl. Neon got sick of listening to people bitch about her, so he inserted that tool to show why she was necessary.
But...why? Is she just that badly written? Does she get up to some heinous action? I'm gonna try the game soon, but i've never seen a reaction to a character like this that wasn't either a NTR thing, or a Trap thing. And even then they don't try to mod the character out alotgether. lol
 

Dessolos

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But...why? Is she just that badly written? Does she get up to some heinous action? I'm gonna try the game soon, but i've never seen a reaction to a character like this that wasn't either a NTR thing, or a Trap thing. And even then they don't try to mod the character out alotgether. lol
Mostly boils down to people see her as a goldigger even she isn't one. Or can't accept her explanation when she returns because she ghosted the MC for 3-6 months as she didn't want to take advantage of him again , so lived poorly for a time. Tho she did some things close in the realm of NTR to get by on her own ( off screen) but no it wasn't NTR. Also some just don't want her around cause she made some poor decisions. I could understand not wanting to make her a LI and keep her in the friend zone but not getting rid of her she hasn't done anything worthy of that.
 

Liam the Handyman

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Mostly boils down to people see her as a goldigger even she isn't one. Or can't accept her explanation when she returns because she ghosted the MC for 3-6 months as she didn't want to take advantage of him again , so lived poorly for a time. Tho she did some things close in the realm of NTR to get by on her own ( off screen) but no it wasn't NTR. Also some just don't want her around cause she made some poor decisions. I could understand not wanting to make her a LI and keep her in the friend zone but not getting rid of her she hasn't done anything worthy of that.
In a way, it comes from players empathizing with Guy, leading to a "she's not good enough for him" narrative.

Personally, I feel Nicki is an important part of Guy's backstory and growth. She doesn't need to be best or main LI, imo she's needed in the story to remind Guy of his simpler roots and how much he had grown or so to speak, even if players are on the darker paths.
 

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In a way, it comes from players empathizing with Guy, leading to a "she's not good enough for him" narrative.

Personally, I feel Nicki is an important part of Guy's backstory and growth. She doesn't need to be best or main LI, imo she's needed in the story to remind Guy of his simpler roots and how much he had grown or so to speak, even if players are on the darker paths.
And if you're in the good path, he does care enough about her in order to not put her in danger (despite her blowing up on anger upon her best friend after he went to Lucien's place with Risa) because he's afraid more harm will come down upon her (I think he makes that clear when he asks Nicki about superhero weaknesses and one of them was bad people going after their loved ones, which then she understands). And if one chooses to go steady with Nicki, I wonder what the dev has in store planned for later updates.
 

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Mostly boils down to people see her as a goldigger even she isn't one. Or can't accept her explanation when she returns because she ghosted the MC for 3-6 months as she didn't want to take advantage of him again , so lived poorly for a time. Tho she did some things close in the realm of NTR to get by on her own ( off screen) but no it wasn't NTR. Also some just don't want her around cause she made some poor decisions. I could understand not wanting to make her a LI and keep her in the friend zone but not getting rid of her she hasn't done anything worthy of that.
So, she sounds just sort of...toxic?

I mean when 95% of games in this genre insist on some combination of creepy incest and she's-totally-not-12-honest LIs, the idea of a good ol' fashioned toxic chick sounds positively...quaint.

Nostalgic, even.

Sign me up.
 
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Dessolos

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So, she sounds just sort of...toxic?
I wouldn't even say toxic. She is a good person just her abusive ex boyfriend got her to do one bad thing. She is honestly a really good friend to have for the MC , she just made bad life decision's. I mean she wasn't even asking the MC for help or money when she could have instead she decided to tough it out as long as possible. You will see when you play and form your own opinion.
 

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Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

Changelog:
Final version of Chapter 10!

Adds bug fixes, a small tweak to Chapter 9, and a few pieces of new art.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a new developer update, but won't post it, it's not a whole lot, just know billing will be paused and he will enable vacation mode.
Curiously, 0.71 Indeed version is public, but 0.71 In Need version is still locked.

:unsure:
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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But...why? Is she just that badly written? Does she get up to some heinous action? I'm gonna try the game soon, but i've never seen a reaction to a character like this that wasn't either a NTR thing, or a Trap thing. And even then they don't try to mod the character out alotgether. lol
I think chp 1 could've done a better job communicating Guy's and Nicki's prior relationship, and to some degree her intentions as well. But the author is already aware, so that's going to be resolved next update with the chp 1 remake.

But, it basically shows you what appears to be a textbook case of a woman who's trying to use sex appeal to get money from our MC, who's supposed to be her friend. She tries to explain her situation. Will the player accept it?

I honestly think everyone's reaction just depends on how naturally trusting or distrusting they are. Which ends up reflecting how trusting or distrusting the MC is, actually. Pretty brilliant, really. :) I'm convinced that explains most of the disagreement on this. I'm sure many others won't see it that way and think it's purely that her character just needed to be executed better. Maybe. Yet, lots of others didn't have a problem with her. I think it's because we're willing to take the character at her word. I'm curious how the remake will affect all of this :unsure: But you should honestly play it and decide for yourself, I wouldn't pay too much attention to others' opinions because the game is definitely great and absolutely worth playing. Even if you end up hating Nicki.

If you really, really wanna know, it turns out the situation isn't actually what it seems, and if MC is patient and understanding and treats her well through the game, he will get a much better glimpse of what's actually going on in her head and why she does what she does. Hell, even in that very first scene, you can get a number of hints.

On the other hand, if MC wants to jump to a conclusion and smack a bitch to make himself feel better, he'll never figure that out. It's reflected in the story in that dark Guy only sees the bad in everyone and he has no trust he's willing to give, so Nicki's explanation just looks like a convenient sob story to manipulate him out of his newly found wealth; nice Guy sees people more positively, and is willing to give the benefit of the doubt. That's basically what Nicki needed.
 

Green83rry

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Curiously, 0.71 Indeed version is public, but 0.71 In Need version is still locked.

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Since 'Indeed' is the watered down patreon safe version of 'In Need', I imagine it doesn't matter much to release it early. Most people prefer the intended/full version. Judging by the $2 tier sub description, we should be getting a public release of 'In Need' in ~3 days.

The wait for public release sucks, but giving little bonuses to paid subs breeds more paid subs which in turn allows Neon to keep churning out the magic.
 

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Since 'Indeed' is the watered down patreon safe version of 'In Need', I imagine it doesn't matter much to release it early. Most people prefer the intended/full version. Judging by the $2 tier sub description, we should be getting a public release of 'In Need' in ~3 days.

The wait for public release sucks, but giving little bonuses to paid subs breeds more paid subs which in turn allows Neon to keep churning out the magic.
Whoops, I fucked up. Public version's unlocked on SubStar now.

It really doesn't add much though, just FYI: There are more bug/typo fixes. For story stuff, during Chapter 9 you can refuse to watch Ginger's video at Lucien's place (making him dislike you), and during a conversation about comics with Nicki, she shows you some images on her phone.

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