VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I honestly didn't really think. I just thought Nicki would be okay with it. Neon said we can bang everybody without consequences, didn't he?

Sorry, I'm mostly teasing you, I honestly don't know. But, if I had to guess, I think romance routes where a LI is your actual girlfriend, they won't be ok with cheating. Nicki might be into sharing, but sharing is of course something you'd probably discuss with her beforehand, not post-cheating negotiation lol Maybe if you play it cool with your MC, you'll be able to get away with it if you're into that, you ol' dog you

 

[MagicMan753]

Yeahhh, my mentality is basically: do what I can right now, and then clean up the rest once the first season is complete. The Ashe change would be super easy. The Gabby one slightly more difficult.

If your goal is to wait till the first season is complete to do more rework for later chapters and clean up, how many episodes are planned for season 1? Cause we are already at ch.10 with 11 coming up, so just curious which episode will be the end of season one.

 

[Ottoeight]

So, just another Dev who fell ill with the I'm-gonna-rework-my-early-chapters Syndrome, the deadliest AVNs disease, I guess.

Well, we had a good run and it was fun while it lasted. I guess I'm gonna buy some beautiful gardenias and I will lay them on Friends In Need's headstone in the Cemetery of the Unfinished AVNs.

See ya.

p.s.: why don't you Devs never learn from other Devs' mistakes?

 

[Dessolos]

I mean not like reworks has been a secret but a known fact for like a year at least now I want to say.

 

[HiP1]

Yeahhh, my mentality is basically: do what I can right now, and then clean up the rest once the first season is complete. The Ashe change would be super easy. The Gabby one slightly more difficult.

Long-long term, I'd love to re-render huge chunks of Chapter 2, and a few sections of Chapter 3. I think everything from Chapter 4 on looks about as good as anything I do now. I learned the value of picking a few camera angles per scene and sticking with them, instead of jumping around like crazy. The lighting got better. My pose library got larger, allowing me to do more natural scenes.

Buuuuut, it's tough to look at this image from Chapter 2, and an image depicting the same scene in Chapter 4, and not see the glaring difference in quality.

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Ashe's start does deserve some love. it feels like a lot of players here don't understand her character and her relationship to MC from the comments I read in this thread.

So, just another Dev who fell ill with the I'm-gonna-rework-my-early-chapters Syndrome, the deadliest AVNs disease, I guess.

Well, we had a good run and it was fun while it lasted. I guess I'm gonna buy some beautiful gardenias and I will lay them on Friends In Need's headstone in the Cemetery of the Unfinished AVNs.

See ya.

p.s.: why don't you Devs never learn from other Devs' mistakes?

you don't know what you're talking about. Neon has talked about doing a complete rework for chapter 1 since last year at least. and it does need it, as it is very obvious it was done by someone else. and there was a very important option that was missing in the choices.

moreover, there are tons of devs that do reworks and do it just fine.
also, there are just as many that will go back to polish the code and flow of the story at the end of a season or the end of the game, especially when a steam release is scheduled.
why is that an issue for you ? just can't wait for the next update ?

 

[Shitty]

So, just another Dev who fell ill with the I'm-gonna-rework-my-early-chapters Syndrome, the deadliest AVNs disease, I guess.

Well, we had a good run and it was fun while it lasted. I guess I'm gonna buy some beautiful gardenias and I will lay them on Friends In Need's headstone in the Cemetery of the Unfinished AVNs.

See ya.

p.s.: why don't you Devs never learn from other Devs' mistakes?

Why do you complain about a game that you're getting to play for free? Piracy entitlement will never not be weird to me.

 

[NeonGhosts]

I don't want to tag the gent who decided he'd leave the thread, but an important thing to note for everrrryone who asks, "Why'd you decide to do that thing that I don't like?" Well -- because I wanted to, and thought it was a good idea.

Here's the thing. I spend a lot of hours of my life working on this project. Some days it's a lot of fun, but some days are fucking rough. I'm not digging ditches, but sitting in a chair for eight hours doing a marathon rendering session, or cutting other obligations short (or ignoring them entirely) because I need to work on my smut, does take a toll. In the first year working on this thing, I gained ten pounds, because my gym routine fell off hard. I've taught myself that I need to balance my work on FiN with my actual life, but I still have a full-time job, a life, and the same 24 hours as everyone else.

So, if I'm going to push through those rough days, and give up other fun stuff that I could be doing, then I need to be working on something that *I* really want to work on. My philosophy has always been that the first person I need to entertain is myself. If I don't like the thing I'm making, how on Earth could I ask anyone else to like it, let alone support it?

So, if there's a character you don't like, a plot development you think is stupid, or an action I took that rubs you wrong: Sorry! It's a creative project, and I have to do what moves me to be creative.

If your goal is to wait till the first season is complete to do more rework for later chapters and clean up, how many episodes are planned for season 1? Cause we are already at ch.10 with 11 coming up, so just curious which episode will be the end of season one.

Good question! I'm not entirely sure myself, but I have a rough idea. Right now, I'm going to try to end on Chapter 13 or 14, depending on how large those chapters are. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I have a few possible places to end the first season, and I'm kinda waiting to see how the story shapes up in the next few chapters.

 

[allanl9020142]

I don't want to tag the gent who decided he'd leave the thread, but an important thing to note for everrrryone who asks, "Why'd you decide to do that thing that I don't like?" Well -- because I wanted to, and thought it was a good idea.

Here's the thing. I spend a lot of hours of my life working on this project. Some days it's a lot of fun, but some days are fucking rough. I'm not digging ditches, but sitting in a chair for eight hours doing a marathon rendering session, or cutting other obligations short (or ignoring them entirely) because I need to work on my smut, does take a toll. In the first year working on this thing, I gained ten pounds, because my gym routine fell off hard. I've taught myself that I need to balance my work on FiN with my actual life, but I still have a full-time job, a life, and the same 24 hours as everyone else.

So, if I'm going to push through those rough days, and give up other fun stuff that I could be doing, then I need to be working on something that *I* really want to work on. My philosophy has always been that the first person I need to entertain is myself. If I don't like the thing I'm making, how on Earth could I ask anyone else to like it, let alone support it?

So, if there's a character you don't like, a plot development you think is stupid, or an action I took that rubs you wrong: Sorry! It's a creative project, and I have to do what moves me to be creative.



Good question! I'm not entirely sure myself, but I have a rough idea. Right now, I'm going to try to end on Chapter 13 or 14, depending on how large those chapters are. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I have a few possible places to end the first season, and I'm kinda waiting to see how the story shapes up in the next few chapters.

Haven't been paying too much attention to the thread but you do you, man. There are maybe 3 or 4 devs I have full faith in when it comes to creative direction of a game/story.

How you want to tell the story and what directions you want to take are things I've been enjoying. Sure, there are things I might not necessarily agree with sometimes (not like a hard no but more like a "meh whatever") but YOU especially, don't need to justify shit. Do whatever the fuck you want. I'm just along for the ride and it's been a great one so far.

Now if it were the other hundreds of devs outside of that handful, it'd be an immediate, "Fuck off! You don't have the writing skills to make that work."

Edit: Not like I should be talking shit like I'm on some high horse but just sayin' I like what you do and you get a bias for that lol.

 

[Pixillin']

I don't think there's a single game where there isn't something I'd change "if it were up to me" (it's not). And there are even a few where I got so uncomfortable with something that I left ... so there are only about 120 games that I'm following now, with varying amounts of interest. But I'd never complain about how a dev spends their time, unless I'm paying and I honestly have no idea what they're doing now ... because of lack of communication etc. That doesn't mean I won't express an opinion or say what I'd like to see, or what bothered me. I have opinions. But ultimately you're either in or you're out and the only way you get control over what happens is to make your own f'in game.

 

[DaFinker]

So, just another Dev who fell ill with the I'm-gonna-rework-my-early-chapters Syndrome, the deadliest AVNs disease, I guess.

Well, we had a good run and it was fun while it lasted. I guess I'm gonna buy some beautiful gardenias and I will lay them on Friends In Need's headstone in the Cemetery of the Unfinished AVNs.

See ya.

p.s.: why don't you Devs never learn from other Devs' mistakes?

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I know it's a pirate site, but when entitled pirates sail through thinking they're some forum hero or something with a big announcement, it's really funny

 

[HiP1]

I don't want to tag the gent who decided he'd leave the thread, but an important thing to note for everrrryone who asks, "Why'd you decide to do that thing that I don't like?" Well -- because I wanted to, and thought it was a good idea.

Here's the thing. I spend a lot of hours of my life working on this project. Some days it's a lot of fun, but some days are fucking rough. I'm not digging ditches, but sitting in a chair for eight hours doing a marathon rendering session, or cutting other obligations short (or ignoring them entirely) because I need to work on my smut, does take a toll. In the first year working on this thing, I gained ten pounds, because my gym routine fell off hard. I've taught myself that I need to balance my work on FiN with my actual life, but I still have a full-time job, a life, and the same 24 hours as everyone else.

So, if I'm going to push through those rough days, and give up other fun stuff that I could be doing, then I need to be working on something that *I* really want to work on. My philosophy has always been that the first person I need to entertain is myself. If I don't like the thing I'm making, how on Earth could I ask anyone else to like it, let alone support it?

So, if there's a character you don't like, a plot development you think is stupid, or an action I took that rubs you wrong: Sorry! It's a creative project, and I have to do what moves me to be creative.



Good question! I'm not entirely sure myself, but I have a rough idea. Right now, I'm going to try to end on Chapter 13 or 14, depending on how large those chapters are. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I have a few possible places to end the first season, and I'm kinda waiting to see how the story shapes up in the next few chapters.

That's the most impressive about this entire project. You have a full life along side it, and you still manage to release huge updates with so much content that put *teams* to shame. you release more content quicker than people that do it full time. Giving up on actual animation must be a big part in that, but the writing makes up for it without issue. Our imagination covers the missing spots

There are some parts that I don't particularly like, but I don't hate them, it's just "ok, meh, why not". but I see people here that are playing the game specifically for those parts and adore -worship even- them. and it's still interesting anyway

 

[allanl9020142]

Giving up on actual animation must be a big part in that, but the writing makes up for it without issue.

Oh my God, that's what I've always been saying! Finally someone else is saying it. A lot of animations (not all) outside of sex scenes are just bloat in my opinion. If the writing is good enough, it makes everything else come alive. I'm not saying animations aren't welcome but you start putting the cart before the horse when dev cycles increase to 1 year or longer.

The writing and scene direction can have just as much impact as thousands of renders and hundreds of animations without wasting months and months on rendering.

 

[NewTricks]

So, just another Dev who fell ill with the I'm-gonna-rework-my-early-chapters Syndrome, the deadliest AVNs disease, I guess.

Well, we had a good run and it was fun while it lasted. I guess I'm gonna buy some beautiful gardenias and I will lay them on Friends In Need's headstone in the Cemetery of the Unfinished AVNs.

See ya.

p.s.: why don't you Devs never learn from other Devs' mistakes?

What will we ever do without Ocho's complaints? However will we cope with the lack of negativity and butt hurt sniveling? Oh, yeah. Just play the game probably.

 

[Pixillin']

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What will we ever do without Ocho's complaints? However will we cope with the lack of negativity and butt hurt sniveling? Oh, yeah. Just play the game probably.

Pretty sure he’ll still play the game too. He’ll probably announce his departure at least another time or two before season 1 is over.

 

[Dessolos]

Pretty sure he’ll still play the game too. He’ll probably announce his departure at least another time or two before season 1 is over.

yeah was gonna say the same thing ive seen him be a negative Nancy in other threads and in this one alot. Probably will show when the next update is out lol

 

[Clarence2992]

Why is there not a walkthrough mod for this game?

 

[NewTricks]

Why is there not a walkthrough mod for this game?

I think that given there are two versions of the game that release at the same time the modders have decided it is too large and potentially frustrating an undertaking. Can't say that I blame them.

 

[Pixillin']

I think that given there are two versions of the game that release at the same time the modders have decided it is too large and potentially frustrating an undertaking. Can't say that I blame them.

I never really felt like this game needed much of a walkthrough. Most of the choices seem fairly stark and self-explanatory.

 

[Shitty]

Why is there not a walkthrough mod for this game?

I don't feel like it needs one, most of the choices are pretty obvious.