VN Ren'Py Further Education [Ep.6 v0.6] [Kvitravn Tales]

[Kvitravn Dev]

Correct. From a marketing perspective the dev alienated his fans and audience by switching genres. Worse, reading MM's reviews, there's very little mention of how well written it was. Instead, most positive reviews mention its lewds and graphics.



Again, you're entirely right.
Steam recommends games based on playtime and reviews. So, the dev's first priority needs to be to develop a game that's polished and keeps players interested. The age rating matters so little, and I very much doubt the 17-18 year-olds are going to be his biggest market segment. No, it will be adults, the same adults who support his patreon.


After giving the game an honest try, this is what I ended up doing. Not out of spite or anything (I have nu issues playing an AVN celibately), but because the writing just isn't at the required level to carry a story- and character driven AVN.
The 0.4 patreon version has 1 lewd scene, of a woman and an escort. I actually liked the steam version a bit more after that.

Know what, I'm going to change the age rating, might not be NOW in this moment but You are right that was wrong of me to think and do - but I've experienced it first hand that adult games aren't as pushed as other indie games, seeing and hearing about this scared me quite a bit, and also compare this one with the previous one and treat it as such- causing misunderstanding all over.

And though I get the alienation of fanbase, I don't know what to say about that- I already made a pure AVN, I'm done with that taste- I just want to do something different here and I absolutely accounted for that.

 

[Quetzzz]

And though I get the alienation of fanbase, I don't know what to say about that- I already made a pure AVN, I'm done with that taste- I just want to do something different here and I absolutely accounted for that.

I'll always be of the opinion that devs need to stay true to their vision. So if "pure AVN" isn't what you want to make, then don't. (Though I'd argue that MM wasn't a pure AVN either)
That not everyone will be happy with that choice, that's something you'll have to deal with as a normal consequence.

About FE, the lack of lewds doesn't matter to me. But at the same time there's this confusing incestuous undertone between Flynn and Carmine that I find weird.

 

[Kvitravn Dev]

I'll always be of the opinion that devs need to stay true to their vision. So if "pure AVN" isn't what you want to make, then don't. (Though I'd argue that MM wasn't a pure AVN either)
That not everyone will be happy with that choice, that's something you'll have to deal with as a normal consequence.

About FE, the lack of lewds doesn't matter to me. But at the same time there's this confusing incestuous undertone between Flynn and Carmine that I find weird.

Thanks for understanding and I'm glad you're finding it weird!

 

[Manuya]

I'll always be of the opinion that devs need to stay true to their vision. So if "pure AVN" isn't what you want to make, then don't. (Though I'd argue that MM wasn't a pure AVN either)
That not everyone will be happy with that choice, that's something you'll have to deal with as a normal consequence.

About FE, the lack of lewds doesn't matter to me

you took the words right out of my mouth, it matters not to me the creative choices that any dev make in their projects, i will always respect artist visions and narrative even if i didn't like certain aspects of their storytelling

also if any AVN dev came out and say i have to change certain aspects of my original work to be allowed to release on steam and abide by their guidelines they'll have my full respect and appreciation, i'll still buy to support but will come here to download as i care less about achievements and other steam perks rather than to view the original unadulterated work (but prefer downloading from steam due to its convenience and ease of organizing)

and i care less personally weather an AVN has lewd scenes or not, unless the dev is a milker (and boy we have a lot of those nowadays) then and only then i have problems, usually i come here to view tags to see which AVN to prioritize viewing but i buy everything nonetheless!!

but in this case i know you understand my frustration, even if it's just one scene he took out it's a choice this dev make willingly and for the wrong reasons sadly, it's his project at the end of the day to do with it whatever he wants but me and you as paying customers have every rights to vent our feedback and frustration, and in this instant it's my pet peeve with the whole patreon and devs that change/remove (for other than guidelines reasons) or lock content behind extra paywall outside of steam, or seek lower rating in hopes of better sales and they themselves compromising their integrities!

good back and forth and have a nice day

 

[sorco2003]

 

[Xxrizz]

Dev you realize that what sells most is sex a good Avn is the sex and the story this could have been maybe very good game and the support and sales were probably higher than they are now but you decided to make a story without it which is your right to do ,but to make that kinda of thing the story just needs to be top notch and engaging and stuff but i don't see them in this one ,if u wanna to do this full time (maybe you're doing it already)it won't be with this one and i think just cuz there no lewds but at the same time you're trying to make it erotic which is not working very well ,the only person that is making it good i think is dev Ocean with "Summer Gone" , which that guy started to taking the piss too but my point was no Lewds ,Sex no much success,but i wish u all the best nonetheless
Edit.And yea what i wanted to say is that animations sell too they don't have to be sex but it would be moore fun

 

[Kvitravn Dev]

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[xizaaR]

Anybody got the updated patch for EP6?

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Anybody got the updated patch for EP6?

There isn't one, either it is not needed, or it hasn't been made/updated yet.

 

[Wolfram99]

The encyclopedia is confusing since at first it can only be closed by a right click, only after the first interaction with it the return button starts working.
The Ahem patch is confusing since the OG script is bigger by 30 lines.
Looking at the diff, the Ahem patch removes sounds in this episode.

 

[Kvitravn Dev]

The Ahem patch is confusing since the OG script is bigger by 30 lines.
Looking at the diff, the Ahem patch removes sounds in this episode.

There's no Ahem-Ahem patch for it! The guy who does it said he'll be making one soon when I release it for everyone.

 

[Wolfram99]

There's no Ahem-Ahem patch for it! The guy who does it said he'll be making one soon when I release it for everyone.

The patreon version has it in its files already....
What is more confusing is that the folder has like 2 other ahem ahem patches in it.

I highly recommend everyone start a new game when it's out. The internals have been completely reworked, with a much more expansive system replacing the old one. This means old saves won't be compatible.

I don't see anything that breaks old saves. The ch.5 one worked normally.
Maybe its in reference to some kind of beta build of the game?

 

[Kvitravn Dev]

The patreon version has it in its files already....
What is more confusing is that the folder has like 2 other ahem ahem patches in it.

My bad, guess they just got left behind, I'll update the packages.

I don't see anything that breaks old saves. The ch.5 one worked normally.
Maybe its in reference to some kind of beta build of the game?

I've made quite some changes which gave ME a lot of roll back and reference errors- so if it works with previous saves for you fellas then that's a overall win-win.

 

[ju736cre]

I gonna play this for the first time, once this update releases for us and I am thinking about buying it on steam. But I am not sure how much dev time is left. I want to buy it when it is close to completion since I dont want to wait for a couple of years to play after buying. (I dont have enough money to support monthly on Patreon. sorry.)

 

[xizaaR]

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[Bob69]

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Gimli cleans up well.

 

[tony3000]

Hey guys, completely new to this game Can someone who has been an avid follower of this game tell me what is this game really about? I can see the incest tag but also the message highlighted on caption that it is not a porn game. So no nude scenes?

 

[JackMiejov]

First time I've seen this game. Looks like there's a preview pic of prone bone sex, but no anal or vaginal sex tag. Is that a thighjob scene?

 

[Mellbear]

What is HOO-HAA??

The greatest thing besides a nice pair of hot cross buns