Faust Seiker

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Zenovar

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Before I get into my response I'd just like to state the obvious: This is just all my opinion and experience. I don't think my viewpoint is objectively correct or anything of the sort. Also, I am fully aware it's a porn game, but I don't think that devalues the discussion of it. Sorry about the length, I don't try to be overly verbose, I'm just trying my best to properly explain my personal viewpoint.

I understand what you say and how you feel but let me lift your spirit a bit. I've gone over it a few times before but what happened here with Ino was just a temporary gimmick for this Chapter. Each chapter has its gimmick and unluckily for you it just so happens that the next one will have some sharing too cuz "Nemona".
However it is not going to be a norm it was just a way for me to go into new things to change the gamefeel a bit.
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Also I understand what you mean about cuckoldry even though it totally wasn't meant that way. I just tried to stay true to how I think a crazy (the way Ino is) person would act in the same place. Inferiority complex makes people become violent which is why it sort of goes that way. I myself was not so convinced with some of the dialogue but it just felt like it was in line with the Ino I had written so far. Also figured if she can't do anything unless the MC permits her somehow it limit the cuckholdry part.
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Also sharing was needed at some point of the game because 15 chapters (just a random number nothing is defined) of just lazuli fucking people would probably be redondant I guess. Though maybe not just sharing with a clone of herself but it was goofy and I liked the idea.
Seems like sharing is not an available tag so I can't add it.
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Lancelot97

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Well, agree with the "allow the player to decide" thing. I know how bad it feels when you're playing a game you like and then you get content you just can't stand (like this game, honestly I'm glad I played this, it was awesome, and as a parody game this has a lot of potential, characters from basically everywhere can be included).

For me at least I really like the whole sharing thing, not even with just clones, just give ino a futa potion like Lazuli said in game or something and let's the fun begin, and the Nemona stuff could also be really cool. But that's for me, I know not everyone is into the sharing thing. Personally I think you need to do new things to keep the magic going, for me only Lazuli getting the fun is cool, but after a while you could get tired I guess, even if you're doing it with a lot of characters from different series.

But like I said, that's just me, that's why I guess an option to allow the player to decide what to do or even a filter (like the futa on male filter, btw, futa on male it's cool) would be the best for everyone.
 
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Zenovar

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But like I said, that's just me, that's why I guess an option to allow the player to decide what to do or even a filter (like the futa on male filter, btw, futa on male it's cool) would be the best for everyone.
Filters can be useful, but I personally prefer choices because it can wildly differ if I want X content with this or that character. Ever run into a situation where you know you really want to see X content with X character, but not with Y character and it's either both or neither? Sucks! So... even better is a mix. The ability to disable it outright at the start, and if enabled then the ability to choose per scene.
Additionally you could add an option to have it always on, should the player know they wanna see it all. Shouldn't be difficult to do in RPGM. But that's just me being a huge fan of player options :BootyTime:
 

Irizin

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Meh, just gonna throw out that I agree completely with everything Zenovar said (except that I personally would argue for removing/reworking the sharing content already included, but I know it probably wont ever happen. I just loathe it personally). Ino's content in the last update was far from enjoyable to me and honestly just made me want to stop playing completely. I hated it while the character I'm playing as is just like 'Lol, cool bro.' which simply made me more annoyed because that's sure as fuck not how I felt.

and it's not something the player can just avoid unless you avoid the characters involved completely, which with the mixing of character paths now means avoiding a bunch of them. To avoid Ino's shit you need to skip Ino herself, Tsunade, and now both Hinata and Sakura. That's about half of the Naruto characters, and about a third of the characters in the game. And we have more coming next update with Nemona, it seems. Not at all reasonable choice, if even possible. EDIT: Kushina too. Forgot that one. Fuck, that's nearly every single character in the second part. Everyone but Sarada and Naruto, right? Awful.

Random sharing shit is not why I started playing this, and it's not why I enjoyed it. Having it forced on me after I've already been playing and enjoying the game was incredibly frustrating and disappointing.

Might just not be a game for me, as much as I really loved it until the last update.
 
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Faust Seiker

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Meh, just gonna throw out that I agree completely with everything Zenovar said (except that I personally would argue for removing/reworking the sharing content already included, but I know it probably wont ever happen. I just loathe it personally). Ino's content in the last update was far from enjoyable to me and honestly just made me want to stop playing completely. I hated it while the character I'm playing as is just like 'Lol, cool bro.' which simply made me more annoyed because that's sure as fuck not how I felt.

and it's not something the player can just avoid unless you avoid the characters involved completely, which with the mixing of character paths now means avoiding a bunch of them. To avoid Ino's shit you need to skip Ino herself, Tsunade, and now both Hinata and Sakura. That's about half of the Naruto characters, and about a third of the characters in the game. And we have more coming next update with Nemona, it seems. Not at all reasonable choice, if even possible. EDIT: Kushina too. Forgot that one. Fuck, that's nearly every single character in the second part. Everyone but Sarada and Naruto, right? Awful.

Random sharing shit is not why I started playing this, and it's not why I enjoyed it. Having it forced on me after I've already been playing and enjoying the game was incredibly frustrating and disappointing.

Might just not be a game for me, as much as I really loved it until the last update.
You can skip the sakura/ino kushina/ino and the soon to come sarad/ino without an impact in the game and without missing anything else.
 

Irizin

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You can skip the sakura/ino kushina/ino and the soon to come sarad/ino without an impact in the game and without missing anything else.
Oh look, more of this awful stuff. I can't remember, did we take all of Sarada's virginties, or are we gonna have to watch Ino take yet another virginity we've worked for? Sure as fuck didn't enjoy watching her take Sakura and Hinata's backdoor first.

EDIT: Like was pointed out by Zenovar, 'skipable' is worthless. Skipping content does not remove it, does not change the fact that it happened, that someone else got to take the reward for 'our' hard work. Also, I notice you did not include the Hinata nonsense.

Anyway, no thank you. I was wary about upcoming Nemona stuff, but confirming Ino's sharing shit is going to spread yet more is enough for me to say that I'm done playing.

Thank you for the game up to chap2 part 2. I really loved it before the current update (And the future ones, from what you've said).
 
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Faust Seiker

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Oh look, more of this awful stuff.
First of all being aggressive and hatefull NEVER helped anyone. You know I've been thinking about making the Ino-sharing scenes avoidable one way or another since this subject was brought up but yeah I mean calling content horrible is sure the right way to go if you want a dev to listen to you.
What should we think about all those who like this horrible content ? Are they degenerates according to your mindset ?
I can understand you don't like a content. I can understand you want to voice it out so that I take action.
What I'm blaming you for is that not a single one of your comment about the matter has of yet has been constructive.
 
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Faust Seiker

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To wrap this discussion up. What I want to say is that I'll make all the sharing scene avoidable one way or another in the future.
I was aware the Hinata x Ino scene wouldnt be liked by everyone but I just didn't know sharing was a red-flag tag for some people.
Never really occured to me because I never thought this was a problem .
But once again I'm fine with every kind of feedback and I change a lot of stuff accordingly (already did a few times) but just be constructive and refrain from just calling a content trash because you personnaly don't like it.
 

Stupidkiller

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To wrap this discussion up. What I want to say is that I'll make all the sharing scene avoidable one way or another in the future.
I was aware the Hinata x Ino scene wouldnt be liked by everyone but I just didn't know sharing was a red-flag tag for some people.
Never really occured to me because I never thought this was a problem .
But once again I'm fine with every kind of feedback and I change a lot of stuff accordingly (already did a few times) but just be constructive and refrain from just calling a content trash because you personnaly don't like it.
Honestly I would ignore those loudmouths (especially the rude one) and make the game YOU want. Unless these two are patreon supporters you don't really owe them a thing, and unlike them I actually really enjoyed the Ino content so far. Not that I would mind making it avoidable, but I would see it as a loss of dev time personally.
Either way, don't let it discourage you, you've got a good game on your hands!
 

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To wrap this discussion up. What I want to say is that I'll make all the sharing scene avoidable one way or another in the future.
I was aware the Hinata x Ino scene wouldnt be liked by everyone but I just didn't know sharing was a red-flag tag for some people.
Never really occured to me because I never thought this was a problem .
But once again I'm fine with every kind of feedback and I change a lot of stuff accordingly (already did a few times) but just be constructive and refrain from just calling a content trash because you personnaly don't like it.
honestly some of the malcontent on this platform kick off abit too hard against sharing, I dislike it myself but its only a small part of what is a great game so far, but to add my own suggestion, if you can in future builds make it so even if there is sharing that the player can always either shut it down (like Lazuli pull rank and just stop it all for that event) or reinforce that Lazuli is always in charge starting with Ino in the next build getting punished or something for acting out so badly, that way characters like Ino could be tamed by having the Sharing scenes as Rewards for obidience instead of taking the choice away from the player, speaking of choice you could also put in a seperate path like for those ok with sharing inside the harem keep that in but also add a choice that keeps it all solo(shadow clones under Lazuli's control are fine in that path) anyway looking forward to more content :D
 
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harem.king

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You can skip the sakura/ino kushina/ino and the soon to come sarad/ino without an impact in the game and without missing anything else.
You can't really skip it because there is no warning ahead of time of what is going to be in the scene.

The current skip process in this game is:
1. watch it
2. reload save
3. skip it now that you reloaded the save.

you still had to watch it in the first place to know what is in that scene.

personally... I surprisingly was ok with it. Not 100% ok, but just a little bothered.
Normally I hate sharing, but the fact that the sharing is done via the MC's own body/clone being possessed somehow made it different. Which is weird, why would my brain have such an exemption? shrug.

it still would be nice to have some in game controls over the content, with clear communication on what you choose.
not just the sharing content. but in general.

the game has no choices at the moment which makes it into a kinetic sandbox. "just don't click on character" isn't really a choice. It should be "click on them and now you get several options to choose from, and one of those choices happen".
 
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Zenovar

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Didn't mean to prompt any non-constructive replies. Just wanted to share my thoughts on it, and was only passionate about it because I really have enjoyed the game. I don't have that much time on my hands I'd write so much about something I wasn't into :KEK:
All I hoped for was to share my viewpoint with the dev in a constructive manner (hopefully I didn't miss there), that's all :)
 

Faust Seiker

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Didn't mean to prompt any non-constructive replies. Just wanted to share my thoughts on it, and was only passionate about it because I really have enjoyed the game. I don't have that much time on my hands I'd write so much about something I wasn't into :KEK:
All I hoped for was to share my viewpoint with the dev in a constructive manner (hopefully I didn't miss there), that's all :)
Nah no worries. Yours was very constructive and allowed me to understand and come to the decision that it needed to be avoidable some way or another which I never thought about before just cuz I didn't think sharing was a tag that was hated by people.
 
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harem.king

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Nah no worries. Yours was very constructive and allowed me to understand and come to the decision that it needed to be avoidable some way or another which I never thought about before just cuz I didn't think sharing was a tag that was hated by people.
every tag has haters.
it is a good idea to let players actually choose their sex acts.

like
> are you interested in this person?
> do you want anal?
> will you share?
> will you break her mind?
> creampie or pull out?
> watersports?
> peep?

There are tons of turn offs for people so its just good idea to give players control over what happens in the game.
Don't even need to track most of those. only whether they completely rejected a character, and in games with pregnancy whether they are cumming inside. (This game has no pregnancy so no need to bother with that).

Although I guess pulling out doesn't make sense in this game since the entire premise is having magic cum that needs to get into their body.

And they have to know what they are getting to before the scene starts.
 

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Seeing some places giving you a hard time about the Ino scenes. Don't know how far into part 4 you are, but maybe a scene where we remind Ino who's really in charge.
 
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