I worded that part poorly: I meant in terms of focusing on the hentai content and leaving dialogue and environments as something that gets built over time. The point is that hentai games can be good games, but usually insofar as they contribute to making the sexual element "flow" in a way that enhances it (e.g. that it's practically a genre-wide trope for game overs/defeat to be how you get sex scenes, making defeat a reward), yet there are countless devs with projects spanning numerous years that have IMMENSE bloat in their updates via dialogue updates, background colors/art being changed, touch-ups on lighting, basically just things that don't matter when one asks the question "what's the h-content in the game?"
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Yes, we KNOW the game was fully voice acted from the start. That's actually a good thing that is a welcomed piece of production value which is what accrued the game's following. It's the imbalance between gameplay vs lore thats the problem, and if you're not picking that up by now than I dont know what to tell you. I'm assuming you're responding to my last line about hiring the voice actors vs the amount of voice acting time which is what I mean (and not trying to be rude but it really seems like you cherry picked this interpretation). Again just like our boi Omni who makes it his job to intentionally misinterpret everything. Almost like you two are in discussion with one another before posting
TO BE CLEAR:
-Voice acting is good
-Story in H games is good
-Having easter eggs of findable lore IS GOOD
It is not good when:
-There is 15 seconds of gameplay to 15 minutes of (albeit skippable) voice acting lore. Consumers WANT the lore, but not when it's significantly impacting the gameplay. Write a book instead.
-That this voice acted lore is the core reason why the game was in development for almost a decade. In terms of nobody is FORCING anyone to read the databanks, nobody is FORCING anyone to do anything. I can cater a wedding and leave a bunch of turds on the buffet table and tell people "nobody is forcing you to eat them". The person paying for it should still have questions
My issue is that back a zillion years ago HW was addressed with these things and he didnt care. Not saying he should listen to every moron on the internet, but at least consulted someone who might have some gameplay narrative experience. It's clear he didnt, and that's his critical failure.
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The game hasn't changed much since the last time I've tried it, generally speaking. It's decent, not something I'd write home about. I do agree with the criticisms in this thread so I don't have much to add to that except that I really don't like HW's writing.
Was never a big fan of the quirky self awareness that has seeped into everything these days. What I really hope he doesn't do is that meta "Acknowledge the Player as a character in the story" crap. It's the thing that keeps me from playing Magic Matchup again. Since whenever I think about the game the thing that comes to mind was how much I hated the ending despite how cute the character design is.
Was never a big fan of the quirky self awareness that has seeped into everything these days. What I really hope he doesn't do is that meta "Acknowledge the Player as a character in the story" crap. It's the thing that keeps me from playing Magic Matchup again. Since whenever I think about the game the thing that comes to mind was how much I hated the ending despite how cute the character design is.
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- Sep 23, 2017
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Yes. Also they fixed my favorite scene so it has a totally different tone (the whole game does) and I'm mad at the internet now.
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Go on ahead and slap this in your \AppData\Roaming\Future_Fragments folder. It'll unlock the gallery, delete it if you want to play the game and get achievements.
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I think this whole discussion is a very clear reminder to me, of where game dev came from and where it is now...
there is actually discussion on a single person's earnings.. wow.. that come from a game that isnt even a product yet... and in this case, has been a non product for 8 yeaaaars?!
There is actually people, who not only bother, but seem genuinely "invested in justifying" their earnings and try to pitch how hard their financial situation is or how hard their life is, why?
A product is being advertised, a product is not being delivered and yet being paid for, that is all that matters and that is what is wrong with current day game dev
I dont care about his health or financial issues, cuz he does not care about mine, he does not give me money because I do not give him a product, I do not get a product from him so I dont give him money, seems pretty simple.
Don't get me wrong, I am 100% supportive of things like patreon and kickstarter, I think its fine to have "faith" and support devs that show promise, emphasis on promise, but if you support someone who does not deliver, however, I think you shouldn't try to "rationalize" hopes and dreams, you should stop supporting, cuz there sure is too many money milking "devs" who sell hopes and dreams to impressionable minds, and I do hope actual laws are created against it.
I remember being paid to beta test games... man... I dont feel like I'm that old, but if I'm not, how am I witnessing, not only people PAYING for beta testing games, but also simp for devs of "non-games"?!
there is actually discussion on a single person's earnings.. wow.. that come from a game that isnt even a product yet... and in this case, has been a non product for 8 yeaaaars?!
There is actually people, who not only bother, but seem genuinely "invested in justifying" their earnings and try to pitch how hard their financial situation is or how hard their life is, why?
A product is being advertised, a product is not being delivered and yet being paid for, that is all that matters and that is what is wrong with current day game dev
I dont care about his health or financial issues, cuz he does not care about mine, he does not give me money because I do not give him a product, I do not get a product from him so I dont give him money, seems pretty simple.
Don't get me wrong, I am 100% supportive of things like patreon and kickstarter, I think its fine to have "faith" and support devs that show promise, emphasis on promise, but if you support someone who does not deliver, however, I think you shouldn't try to "rationalize" hopes and dreams, you should stop supporting, cuz there sure is too many money milking "devs" who sell hopes and dreams to impressionable minds, and I do hope actual laws are created against it.
I remember being paid to beta test games... man... I dont feel like I'm that old, but if I'm not, how am I witnessing, not only people PAYING for beta testing games, but also simp for devs of "non-games"?!
Yeah, I phrased it badly, but that was what I was getting at. Steam would require them to put the game on sale for $10 instead of 20$ if they stuck to that idea.
- Sep 30, 2017
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ye they do, and pixel art is always great
anyway
tried out the demo and so far it's great as expected
i already made some suggestions to HW on discord and some of the things i said were already being considered anyway, like for example having an auto-read option where the dialogue automatically advances when the voice stops like typical vn stuff, some button remapping issues as well since i play on controller, and so on
point is everything is great
you don't get punished by not reading databanks too, so maybe people here who think it breaks the pace to go reading them can skip them? some guy before said that basically the point WAS to read them, so skipping them would make no sense, but i think it just affect interactions with NPCs, however, it's not punishing per se, and the only databanks that really matter are the gold ones
sure, if you wanna get the most of it and squeeze the lore it's better to read them, though, and even of that i'm not sure since in interactions it just shows Talia knowing or not knowing the backstory of things
but the point of the game is that each and every one of us should have a different experience with the game, and the fact that you're not punished for skipping them is proof
anyway
tried out the demo and so far it's great as expected
i already made some suggestions to HW on discord and some of the things i said were already being considered anyway, like for example having an auto-read option where the dialogue automatically advances when the voice stops like typical vn stuff, some button remapping issues as well since i play on controller, and so on
point is everything is great
you don't get punished by not reading databanks too, so maybe people here who think it breaks the pace to go reading them can skip them? some guy before said that basically the point WAS to read them, so skipping them would make no sense, but i think it just affect interactions with NPCs, however, it's not punishing per se, and the only databanks that really matter are the gold ones
sure, if you wanna get the most of it and squeeze the lore it's better to read them, though, and even of that i'm not sure since in interactions it just shows Talia knowing or not knowing the backstory of things
but the point of the game is that each and every one of us should have a different experience with the game, and the fact that you're not punished for skipping them is proof
Demo is very good and more than one is online. I feel like already a full game is here compared to sale on other sites. Looking forward to more is exciting, I think it's okay to wait if it is for a good story. They will translate the game it's good to know.
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I'm more annoyed by the removal of the flying monster hypnosis-masturbation original which was somewhat original, but it wasn't Patreon-friendly if I remember well.
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Same. Either they do it for shits & giggles or they are so salty they can't move on
I wish. That'd be awesome
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Was your game closed when you did it? Did you put the file in the correct spot? If you go into the game do you have achievements unlocked?
I also put it in \AppData\Roaming\Future_Fragments. I earn the achievements of the first level. But I don't get other achievments, maybe because we first need to unlock the level ?
- Sep 7, 2021
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So the file gave you some of the achievements for the Fire level and access to the Fire level gallery right? This build doesn't include the achievements for the other levels or their galleries.