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Theyre actually MAKING A REAL GAME.
not somew shitty fap and bop craptastical platformer for you to jerkoff for 5 minutes and be done. they're making an honest to goodness actul GAME. and that shit should be applauded. games cost way more than you think to make, dude. 11k a month is shit.

think about it this way,m if they only have 5 people on their team, and you split it 5 ways - thats roughly 2k a month per person.
that doesnt even pay the bill, nevermind put food on your table, and also develop a game.
 
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You'd be surprised; porn is what initially hooks people in, yeah, but what gets them to stay is the gameplay/story/art/audio.

We've got a Discord with over 3,000 people in it, and honestly, 90% of the time the discussion is people talking about the plot of the game or showing off gameplay challenges they achieved (like beating the boss without being damaged), very rarely does the discussion on the Discord turn to porn comparatively.

Same goes for other forums the game is discussed on; even this thread has a lot of people discussing gameplay or plot or other aspects that aren't directly about the porn.

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In the East, a lot of porn games are there for the porn, yeah, but people also love the characters and plots and gameplay for those games. We'd like to follow in their footsteps with having people enjoy the game as a full fledged game, not just something to fap to and forget.

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Additionally, about 30 or so years ago, violence in video games was a hot button topic that was used to hook people into video games, but was often used in very blunt, excessive ways, where 80% of the game would just be gore and 20% would be actual gameplay and content outside of that.

Over time though, people started using violence in video games in ways that made the game's story or gameplay or some other factor more interesting, instead of wielding it with a big blunt stick, they chose to use it with smarter implementation and to not make the violence the core factor of the game, but just "a" factor, one piece of the big puzzle that made up the game as a whole.

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That's where we feel adult games are headed too; in the coming years, you'll likely see more and more games where the sex is a significant aspect of the game, but not the aspect that the entire game revolves around while ignoring gameplay, audio, art, story, and so on.

(We're not kidding about the significant part either, we're at around 160 different sex animation loops in the game so far, with no palette or model swaps or anything like that, should top out at around 210 or so for the full game)

We'd aiming to make games like that though, for Future Fragments to be something that people may pick up for the porn, but continue playing for all its other aspects (as well as the porn, still). There's a lot of other games going this way too, like Crisis Point: Extinction, for example.

Don't get me wrong though; we definitely can and are improving on the game before May 2020 (our release date), and we'll definitely learn from our experiences on FF and use those to try and make better games than FF with the subsequent games we make, too.
i think I said this before to you, but thanks for actually making a legit game with eroge in it. I'm so fuckign sick of seeing slapped together shitty games that have no substance or value, jkust some jiggly anime girls, and everyone loves that garbage.
good on you for making real games. the industry needs more people like your team.
keep up the good work .
 
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You'd be surprised; porn is what initially hooks people in, yeah, but what gets them to stay is the gameplay/story/art/audio.

This is true and everyone who ever played monstergirl quest knows this or is in denial.

Or has a really
REALLY
strong resistance to
WHATEVER THE **** PART 3 IS
 

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Well, if that's how you interpreted that post, then there's not much more I can say that would do much to change your perception of things :) thanks for contributing to the topic!
 
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Thanks for your answer about where the scenes happen! And I for one do appreciate the breakdown of Where The Money Goes, as well as the fact that you pay your contributors well. Since you've got a full release date that's not too far off, and I am a patient girl, I will probably just wait until then to grab the game, but it is definitely on my List Of Games To Watch now~
 
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Personally, and pardon me if this has already been answered, but i'm more curious about where the game will end up being sold. Is there some sort of platform you have in mind already or is it too early to say ?
 

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Can i ask for a detailed instructions on how to access the secret scene? All the steps given before this are way too vague for me o_O
 

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Thanks for your answer about where the scenes happen! And I for one do appreciate the breakdown of Where The Money Goes, as well as the fact that you pay your contributors well. Since you've got a full release date that's not too far off, and I am a patient girl, I will probably just wait until then to grab the game, but it is definitely on my List Of Games To Watch now~
Glad to hear it :D

Personally, and pardon me if this has already been answered, but i'm more curious about where the game will end up being sold. Is there some sort of platform you have in mind already or is it too early to say ?
We plan on selling on Steam, Nutaku, JAST, MangaGamer, FAKKU, Denpasoft, DLSite, Eroges, and just about everywhere else.

You'll still be able to get the game off Patreon, too. The game will be uncensored on all platforms except for Steam, where the initial game you buy will have no sex content, but then on the same page there'll be free "patch as DLC" stuff that you can install to return the game to it's normal, uncensored setting.

We'll also be translating it into Japanese a while after launch and selling it at Comiket with physical copies if we can, as well as multiple other languages.
 
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I just wanted to chime in on the topic of this being a game with porn in it rather than a porn game. Personally I prefer this. Not only because then it's actually a thing that's fun to play and not something frustrating to get through in order to see the good stuff, but also because the added context makes the porn elements so much better for me. For some reason the animations in porn games are better when seeing them in the game where they occur naturally than in a gallery, in my opinion.
 
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Can i ask for a detailed instructions on how to access the secret scene? All the steps given before this are way too vague for me o_O
Sure thing, check out these videos by one of our backers (and he's made his own custom map packages too that people can play with our editor), Jason Bill :)

Part 1:

Part 2:

The room he ends up going in at the end of Part 2 is the area for the Vie / Faye scene.

I just wanted to chime in on the topic of this being a game with porn in it rather than a porn game. Personally I prefer this. Not only because then it's actually a thing that's fun to play and not something frustrating to get through in order to see the good stuff, but also because the added context makes the porn elements so much better for me. For some reason the animations in porn games are better when seeing them in the game where they occur naturally than in a gallery, in my opinion.
Thanks a lot, that really does mean a lot! I do agree with you too, we'll have a gallery but it's always good in-game; the new Arousal System should help with being able to see more scenes in-game without taking a punishment to your HP and such as well, while fleshing out the story choices at the same time.

yeah I think I saidf th

i think I said this before to you, but thanks for actually making a legit game with eroge in it. I'm so fuckign sick of seeing slapped together shitty games that have no substance or value, jkust some jiggly anime girls, and everyone loves that garbage.
good on you for making real games. the industry needs more people like your team.
keep up the good work .
This is true and everyone who ever played monstergirl quest knows this or is in denial.

Or has a really
REALLY
strong resistance to
WHATEVER THE **** PART 3 IS
Also thanks to both of you two, sorry for not replying to these earlier; seeing messages like this on here and other places really lets us know we're on the right track with what we're doing, and it means a lot to get that kind of feedback.

Don't get me wrong, we also value it when people critique us and dislike things about the game, cause that's valuable feedback too, but you know what I mean.
 
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Beat Wren on about the 12th try, on easy. Fun fight. Thanks for that particular powerup combo. Looking forward to the finished product next may.
 
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Too bad that i have to wait a few months before the game actually releases and i can pitch in some cash to help(im not earning enough for ongoing patreon support, well technically i am but im trying to save up so i have a no subscriptions to anything policy , shrugs.) Followed devlopment for a long while, i think the ice demo (actually,does anyone still have that ? cant find mine anymore) so yeah! But still, i still really wanted to see the game over text for The End, oh welp. Gotta wait

Dont worry about wren feeling hard, theres just a likely hood that canoccur in the game where you stand on theutmost left/right plattform next to wren, and you dodge away from him only to then be combo killed b y the other 4 plattforms flickering up without dogeabiltiy one after another, happened twice to me , but overall 6 tries till i beat himo on normal without powerups (not including the two in which i just fucking died.)


The "secret ways "of beating the bosses arent availible yet, right? and do you maybe for a little toss of a bone, think, you would prolly make a "the scenes so far" gallery demo to test a few of the harder puzzle archievments ? (That way people wont just have it because i dont think youve fed that particular crowd thus far). Im mainly asking because its hard ot keep track of every demos content by now.


Lastly, will there be a full SFW way to play this game incase someone super smart submits to ESA as a speedrun for a meme and actually gets accepted? GDQ would never, ESA Would prolly consider because memes. And it might be me , depending on ohw good i like the finished linked product.



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I made that short comment about how i like the "make a game so people stay after the porn"philosophie .im not in depth giving feedback on the demos ive seen at all so far, and i dont really think i need to go all into detail till i have hands on a more complete build (really the make or break in how much ill like the game is how punishing it feels once its linked together and the new upgrades are in, and how well it flows once linked together, plus new tutorial, show dont tell, would prolly be my recommendation too if you werent already saying that thats howyoure gonna change it. If you are struggling a bit with the show dont tell p art, always take a book out of megaman's example, and if you dont know which one i mean, its fair enough to just watch the egoraptor video "Sequelitis " about it, thats explaining it in gruesomly deep detail.)
 

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The "secret ways "of beating the bosses arent availible yet, right?
Yeah, this is something we'll be adding in late into development because we want to get all the core assets done first, but each of the five normal bosses will have a secondary way to beat them that requires thinking outside of the box.

and do you maybe for a little toss of a bone, think, you would prolly make a "the scenes so far" gallery demo to test a few of the harder puzzle archievments? (That way people wont just have it because i dont think youve fed that particular crowd thus far). Im mainly asking because its hard ot keep track of every demos content by now.
This unfortunately we likely won't do because just with v0.44 we got the collections menu in, which was a huge task unto itself, and we'd like to avoid putting in the gallery until all art assets are done for the game so we don't have to retcon the gallery to add in new art (in terms of the GUI for the gallery, etc.)

To be clear, the gallery isn't going to be just a selection of boxes you click on; it'll be similar to Parasite in City's gallery, where you have a room the character is in and you select the enemies/cutscenes you want to see. However, the context here is that Vie is doing a trade with WORM members (and the Mutabilis Earth Level enemies, and the, uh, things we don't want to spoil much about in The End) to get information from them about things she wants to know about (where Seeber's at, for instance).

They don't want to give up this information willingly though, so Talia agrees to help Vie out by trading sex for the intel. It's non-canonical of course, but a gallery is by default, so we figured we'd have fun with it.

For a current "gallery" though, you can check out these two videos that cover a small amount of the sex animations in the game so far;




Lastly, will there be a full SFW way to play this game incase someone super smart submits to ESA as a speedrun for a meme and actually gets accepted? GDQ would never, ESA Would prolly consider because memes. And it might be me , depending on ohw good i like the finished linked product.
Yeah, when the game releases on Steam, it'll have zero sexual content (visually, textually it'll still describe sex in databanks, but there'll be no actual sex action going on).

There'll be a patch though on the front page of the game that you can download, which will return the game 100% to how it is now with all sex scenes, no censorship, etc.

We do have a speedrun mode planned for the game too, which'll add a timer to the upper right, will remove all RNG of powerups (so it'll be the same set of powerups each run in the same places per level), will remove all cutscenes, and if you can get within 80% of the speed of our top time as the devs, you'll get a special ending too. (So if we took say, 5 hours to speedrun the whole game, if you can do it within 6 hours you'd get the ending.)

Beat Wren on about the 12th try, on easy. Fun fight. Thanks for that particular powerup combo. Looking forward to the finished product next may.
Nice work! You can be among the people who beat WREN before we got rid of the instakill mechanic of his pillars (the pillars will still be the main active part of the 2nd phase of the fight, just without instakilling) :D
 
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Lmao without the intsakilling its rather piss easy, this will obviously make even my described issue a rather non issue


About the ice demo, aka version 0.17a?
Also, what was the zoom in key for older versions? did that even exist? I just checked out an older version and i can faintly remember it being there tho that could just be my mind playing tricks.



i know you stated that it was on the patreon before - but i figured someone had shared it a while ago.
im already set on atleast buying the game anyway, so i dont feel no qualms about asking twice haha
 

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I for the life of me cant beat this boss fight..... someone upload a video of the sex scene please.
 
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Lmao without the intsakilling its rather piss easy, this will obviously make even my described issue a rather non issue


About the ice demo, aka version 0.17a?
Also, what was the zoom in key for older versions? did that even exist? I just checked out an older version and i can faintly remember it being there tho that could just be my mind playing tricks.



i know you stated that it was on the patreon before - but i figured someone had shared it a while ago.
im already set on atleast buying the game anyway, so i dont feel no qualms about asking twice haha
The zoom function doesn't exist in the ice demo, if I remember correctly the old fire level has it and the current level.
 
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