Dragon59

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The new update 0.39 will be "like" for Kate, but in fact for Max
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Almost everywhere Max :mad:
I feel like I'm in a Monty Python sketch.

"Try the 'New Yoga with Ann and a bit of Max.' It doesn't have much Max in it."
"But I don't like Max!"
Chorus: Max, Max, Max, Max...
 
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gelu123

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I dont get it why Erik isnt back in this game , i know ntr sucks for some , but really he was a well made character , it made us hate him , made us want to beat him to f*king our familly , and then made us either get rid of him or turn him into our biatch. Ad also an option for his content to be optional with ntr on/off for those that dont want that kind of content. But his existance in game was good , and made the game less predictable. (Also some MMF content can be put for the connoisseurs :) )
 

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I dont get it why Erik isnt back in this game , i know ntr sucks for some , but really he was a well made character , it made us hate him , made us want to beat him to f*king our familly , and then made us either get rid of him or turn him into our biatch. Ad also an option for his content to be optional with ntr on/off for those that dont want that kind of content. But his existance in game was good , and made the game less predictable. (Also some MMF content can be put for the connoisseurs :) )
It's less about the NTR and how poorly crafted many believe him to be.
I didn't like him first and foremost because of the NTR angle but I grew to just dislike him as a character and finally because the writing was garbage.

Picture this:
Mom starts seeing a new guy. You decide you're happy for her.
Guy comes over, bangs her a few times and right away starts trying to seduce Alice and Lisa.
Mom decided that the guy banging her is right and picks his side in every little thing.
Max must be some sort of interminable scumbag for his own mother to not have his back.
The one time Max actually DID shine as far as I'm concerned is when he ratted the crook out to the mafia.
 
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gelu123

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It's less about the NTR and how poorly crafted many believe him to be.
I didn't like him first and foremost because of the NTR angle but I grew to just dislike him as a character and finally because the writing was garbage.

Picture this:
Mom starts seeing a new guy. You decide you're happy for her.
Guy comes over, bangs her a few times and right away starts trying to seduce Alice and Lisa.
Mom decided that the guy banging her is right and picks his side in every little thing.
Max must be some sort of interminable scumbag for his own mother to not have his back.
The one time Max actually DID shine as far as I'm concerned is when he ratted the crook out to the mafia.
Well he Erik is supposed to be a scumbag , he is sly , he wants the familly girls. But lets face it , he was a threat that made the game early unpredictible , we can sell alice to save kira or chose not to. He would try to get rid of us , and so we would do too. The part with mom taking Erik part is understandable , Erik is a mature man and Max is a kid a horny one at that. Dont tell me Max isnt a saint in this equation , far from it . Yes we relate to Max cause we play him (wouldve been nice to play as Erik and claim the familly to ourself though) but both of them are bad , yes Max is less bad cause well he cares for his familly but he would do anything to bang them.
Tell me in this current iteration without Erik the game is well grindy with no goal atm , at least in big brother ,when we get rid of Erik and claim our familly we feel great , here we get everything easy without consequences.
I dont want to say anything about Kate story (because i didnt play it and i dont want to be a hypocrite) cause well Big brother was the 1st game i supported on patreon ( 6 months with 5 $ each) and was good back than , even now i cant forgive the dev for not giving us Olivias mom . I dont understand why doesnt he port the scenes from the original so the time between max's updates would be shorter?
 
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Eric? Mature? Don't make me laugh. All he cares about is where his next bang comes from.
He wants Max out of the house because he viewed him as a threat. A kid. A kid was a threat to him.
Err, no. Ann taking Eric's side over HER OWN GOD DAMN SON'S does NOT make any lick of sense. He banged her like twice but she's known Max his whole fucking life.
We both know Max is hardly any better than Eric. There's no need to state that.
That fact that there is no challenge in Max's story is why many would just deride it.
At least there is a goal and some challenge in Kate's.

As for why he doesn't port what was there and shorten the time between Max's updates...
1: Porting would mean less to pad out, less money for him.
2: Shortening the time between updates isn't exactly right; It's still technically 1 Kate:1 Max update but people are getting pissed off with DS forcing Max on the Kate players. Not 100% his fault, it's usually the stupid, horny, more-money-than-fucking-sense $40/month patrons that tell him what to do. Here on this forum where he never goes, we have no power.

Most of us would know how to craft a better experience. But we're not the ones puling the cash in.
 

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I don't really like NTR, but I'd be curious to see if Eric managed to pop Lisa's cherry in front of the mother though ^_^.

Joking aside, it'd be quite nice to be able to have a third main, Eric. I mean, we know very little about him, and since the mafia seems to be after him, he's bound to be a rather interesting character to play if it gets written well. Keeping with the current known lore, he could be forced to strike a deal with Max after the wallet incident (from his perspective this time) and so on and so forth. There are possibilities there.
 

gelu123

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Eric? Mature? Don't make me laugh. All he cares about is where his next bang comes from.
He wants Max out of the house because he viewed him as a threat. A kid. A kid was a threat to him.
Err, no. Ann taking Eric's side over HER OWN GOD DAMN SON'S does NOT make any lick of sense. He banged her like twice but she's known Max his whole fucking life.
We both know Max is hardly any better than Eric. There's no need to state that.
That fact that there is no challenge in Max's story is why many would just deride it.
At least there is a goal and some challenge in Kate's.

As for why he doesn't port what was there and shorten the time between Max's updates...
1: Porting would mean less to pad out, less money for him.
2: Shortening the time between updates isn't exactly right; It's still technically 1 Kate:1 Max update but people are getting pissed off with DS forcing Max on the Kate players. Not 100% his fault, it's usually the stupid, horny, more-money-than-fucking-sense $40/month patrons that tell him what to do. Here on this forum where he never goes, we have no power.

Most of us would know how to craft a better experience. But we're not the ones puling the cash in.
I agree less time between updates means less money , but lest face it , he couldve ported easy the assets , than make you content with the actual time frame. I kinda undestand the communitty hate for max's updates , cause well his story is now 6-7 years old? But the dev was bullshitting the last time , he canceled big bro because of patreon incest policy . Yet all the other devs made the name mapping and tadaa *(i know milking patreons with same old updates strategy...) but really you said Erik was bad writing , but the curent story? Ann aka Mom is literally the worst written character now . She wants Max , clearly , she is overprotective but has no qualms with Max having sex with either Kira or Lisa ... i mean you are either a nympho or a sexually frustrated woman but the current iterration of Ann doesnt know what it wants to be...
 

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Let's agree, Eric had a very poorly written plot. How does he get home and tell Max he's going to fuck his whole family? I don't know where DS got this idea, but if it was something where Eric came home like a wolf, treat all goods, treat Max like he was his buddy and then in time Max started to understand what his intention was, it would be more interesting.
Most didn't like Eric because of it, like a lion that has just entered a territory and has already taken that territory. Eric should be the wolf, he arrives slowly, wins everyone's trust, greets Max and says he hopes they are great friends and says he will help him when he needs it. If the player refused Eric's friendship, then a challenge would start where Max would have to kick Eric out. The bad thing about BB was because of that, there was no extensive content for each event and the NTR path was a short and stopped path, mentioning that if the player didn't get the money in time it was gameover, which was bad as the game had a lot of grinding and limited money management. Now, if DS put Eric in this game, I don't know if it would make much sense, as Max would be a cuckold, as he's almost fucked up the whole family and Eric's arrival in the game will make things less interesting. I should have thought about putting Eric in from the start, but on the other hand, it would look very similar to the abandoned BB. DS has to create new female characters and write a plot that matches the characters.
 

Dragon59

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I agree less time between updates means less money , but lest face it , he couldve ported easy the assets , than make you content with the actual time frame. I kinda undestand the communitty hate for max's updates , cause well his story is now 6-7 years old? But the dev was bullshitting the last time , he canceled big bro because of patreon incest policy . Yet all the other devs made the name mapping and tadaa *(i know milking patreons with same old updates strategy...) but really you said Erik was bad writing , but the curent story? Ann aka Mom is literally the worst written character now . She wants Max , clearly , she is overprotective but has no qualms with Max having sex with either Kira or Lisa ... i mean you are either a nympho or a sexually frustrated woman but the current iterration of Ann doesnt know what it wants to be...
In BB at least, we were given hints as to why Ann was so easily manipulated by Eric and so willing to follow him and sell her kids out.
 

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Our next update will be focused on Kate, more specifically our last poll resulted in 48% voting for the villa. The other options were Julia, College, and The List™.

Recently, we had a poll whether our Patrons wanted to see Eric in the game. 71% have voted against him, so all Eric haters can rejoice, he's gone forever and we won't be seeing him in Glamour. However, one person had an interesting offer. While we're definitely not interested in adding a character as antagonistic as Eric in the game, we could give a similar role to Alice, who already has a complicated relationship with Max anyway.

Since 0.39 is all about Kate, she can decide to help Alice to figure out her complex feelings about Max, and if Max gets some challenges along the way that will stop him from getting anything he wants then, well, 0.39 is Kate's update, ultimately she works in her own interests, not to help Max in every way she can.

If you like the story from 0.39, we'll introduce something similar from Max's perspective. Or it might stay as Kate-only mechanic, we'll see.

But for now, let's focus on Kate, because she's the hero of our next update, not Max. Here are the events we're planning right now:
  • daytime pool events with Alice, Ann, Lisa, and Max
  • nighttime pool events Alice and Max
  • new yoga with Ann and a bit of Max
  • watching tv with Alice and Max at night
  • massage with Ann
  • new punishment events before breakfast/dinner
We won't be going too much into our plans about this new mechanic, but for now we're planning on adding events that will change the dynamic between the characters, and then the new dynamic will, in turn, shake things up around the villa. And of course we will also have our traditional events that will have nothing to do with any of this.

As you can see, we have big plans. We'll try to realize as much as possible. The events might not be as long as the events from 0.38, but we'll try to mix things up to add more variety into the game.
 

ucokpunk

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Guys, when I open the 0.38 version I still can load my savegames from 0.37. Kira questline is waiting for Lisa questline to progress but I can't seem to progress at all. Does this happen to anyone else? Do I have to start a new game?
 
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