Alig8r

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You're not getting what we're saying. We're not saying it's a clone. We're saying that if dev just keeps on adding more and more filler characters that it can follow the same path as WMV. Which cheapens the core cast and dilutes a very good and well written story with fluff. I love a lot of the characters. The core cast is very good and they have well defined personalities. But if you spend more time with nobodies and forgettable characters, when are we going to spend time with the main cast? When are we going to get closer to the actual main Li? When are we going to reach an enjoyable and satisfying ending? Bro dev has made some very good characters, we just rather spend our time with title characters and people who actually matter to the story instead of people we can't even remember the name of. All this debate is coming from a place of enjoyment of the story ...
It's different from WVM. I agree WVM feels bloated, that's because pretty much all the characters are going to have development of some kind. Here Moon mentioned the groups that are going to be formed by the main cast. The rest are not going to get that development. Karen isn't going to get the same level of depth as Jamila. Shauna isn't going to get the attention that Mabel is going to get.

Shauna, Karen, real estate lady, Petunia's sister these are just random encounters and I feel like a lot of us like them every update. We know they won't be featured more than a couple of times down the line and that's ok.

Regarding actual development with main cast. That has happened. Priya went form just being the family Physician to a close friend. We know Liz's situation and we've taken steps to help out. We got a lead on the neighbor from Petunia's sister. Jamila and MC are closer than ever. Some of these relations are Taboo and it feels better to give them time. Some are not taboo like with Aaliyah and that has happened pretty fast as both were attracted. Mabel isn't going to wait for long before she tackles the guy into a corner.

It gets updated Monthly so I feel like things are progressing nicely. Some characters are taking their time some are hitting off quickly. Of course It's just my opinion and I could be wrong. Let's see what happens!
 

Before I Forget

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You're not getting what we're saying. We're not saying it's a clone. We're saying that if dev just keeps on adding more and more filler characters that it can follow the same path as WMV. Which cheapens the core cast and dilutes a very good and well written story with fluff. I love a lot of the characters. The core cast is very good and they have well defined personalities. But if you spend more time with nobodies and forgettable characters, when are we going to spend time with the main cast? When are we going to get closer to the actual main Li? When are we going to reach an enjoyable and satisfying ending? Bro dev has made some very good characters, we just rather spend our time with title characters and people who actually matter to the story instead of people we can't even remember the name of. All this debate is coming from a place of enjoyment of the story ...
Adding characters doesn't mean the main girls are gonna get lost in the shuffle, it's been 6 months of production, relax. Let the Dev tell their story. Do people forget incest is taboo?
 

Spfjolietjake

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I'm saying. If you have a story and you tell it, it is not a bad thing to end it before it gets stale and outlines its usefulness.

Dmd was a great story with a very satisfying ending after season 2. Mc and D were living on their own, had professed their love to one another and finally after 2 season they had sex. It could have ended there, but dev knew how much money he was going to lose especially kuz Melody wasn't as popular as DMD. So he made a 3rd season that started the gemale threesome arc, then 4th with the sharing/cuck arc. A good dev has to know when to walk away and understand that the job is done. Time to move on.
My experience is most devs suck at endings no matter if it's a short project or a long one. Seriously endings are the biggest flaws out of all the devs here (multiple that by 200000000 if you add in abandoned vns).

The vns I like the most are the ones the devs don't cave and Make their vision. They usually complete them and are personally satisfied with the results and continue to make more.

I personally trust moonbox with the amount of characters, if I'm wrong I know it will still be a great fucking ride until the wheels fall off...
 

JJDrakken

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I'm saying. If you have a story and you tell it, it is not a bad thing to end it before it gets stale and outlines its usefulness.

Dmd was a great story with a very satisfying ending after season 2. Mc and D were living on their own, had professed their love to one another and finally after 2 season they had sex. It could have ended there, but dev knew how much money he was going to lose especially kuz Melody wasn't as popular as DMD. So he made a 3rd season that started the gemale threesome arc, then 4th with the sharing/cuck arc. A good dev has to know when to walk away and understand that the job is done. Time to move on.
This is not whatever Novella your trying compare it to. This is Moon's story, it's that simple. So they'll do as they do, us regulars love every minute of it, no need to bemoan about it. It's starting to sound like entitlement.
 

ArturiousDesign

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Jan 31, 2019
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Bro, I think you and ArturiousDesign are missing the point. As MoonBox has stated, there really is no plot or story to this. I disagree with him about that all the time, but, he says this is just a porn game.


My New Family.
I was just suggesting that some plot elements no matter how small would help focus up the story and give him something to work towards. He wouldn't have to add so much fluff. He could even enjoy writing a plot thread he is passionate about.

If he wants to just make a: you just meet girls and fuck them, maybe don't try so hard with characters like Jamila, Nana, priya, and Natalia, don't give people something to look forward to just to hold back and do some other side plot. If this is just a one and done fuck her game, let us fuck them and move on to the next nameless hole.

Sry. I hate getting invested in media just to be let down or leave feeling like I wasted my time. Like I could have just gone and watched something else.
 

diego68usa

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Grandma's House [v0.04] [Compressed]

Original Size Win/Linux: 4.80 GB

Compressed Size Win/Linux: 473 MB: - WORKUPLOAD
Compressed Size Mac: 439 MB: - WORKUPLOAD

Compressing process reduces image/audio/video quality and can break the game, be aware of that.

You can find all of my Walkthrough Mods content here:

Or you can:
hi JokerLeader ; when you get the chance, if you can update the compression, that would be great! original file is too big for me to download. thanks. v/r Diego
 

ArturiousDesign

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My experience is most devs suck at endings no matter if it's a short project or a long one. Seriously endings are the biggest flaws out of all the devs here (multiple that by 200000000 if you add in abandoned vns).

The vns I like the most are the ones the devs don't cave and Make their vision. They usually complete them and are personally satisfied with the results and continue to make more.

I personally trust moonbox with the amount of characters, if I'm wrong I know it will still be a great fucking ride until the wheels fall off...
Well, I mean you just gotta know where your characters start, and where you want them to end. The middle part is easy. Like, if you have 2 childhood friends, they grew up together, they have feeling but are too shy. But by the end you want them married and with kids or something. You just have to help them along til the confess. Throw some elements that will put the ending in jeopardy, add some conflict for them to get over. Then do the final big sex scene with your couple. Wrap it up with a wedding or something; showing all the potential girls you gave up on (or kept kuz the harem ending), we all cry, we feel happy. Roll credits.

It's kind of like Dming in D&D. You have your "it all started in a tavern" then you do some fights or whatever to explain the plot, finally, you kill the big bad, save the day, you're heroes! Get sum lootz.

Main focus is to work towards that ending.

Take this game, we all want Mc and Nana to get together, just gotta focus on having them get closer and closer while dealing with breaking taboos and the guilt/enjoyment of what that entails. Like up next for them should be the date to the cave, right? That date should focus on them deepening their bond. They both have some type of feelings for each other, they even have sexual chemistry. Now would be the perfect time to have them push their boundaries with the taboo. Move to kissing and romantic caressing. Then maybe the liquid confidence makes on of them go too far. They get too handsy, kiss for a little too long. They feel guilty but can't deny their attraction. It feels wrong, but so right. It can even show a little conflict as they spend time apart to suss out their feelings. Then they reunite and both say sorry. Deciding to see where this goes. Carefully of so neither gets hurt. Can even explore the themes of dating someone older or a lot older in Nana's case.

Man idk. I fell in love with the characters, and I want to see them end up happy. Too many sad milfs that mc can make happy. Hits me in the feels. Lol
 

ArturiousDesign

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It's different from WVM. I agree WVM feels bloated, that's because pretty much all the characters are going to have development of some kind. Here Moon mentioned the groups that are going to be formed by the main cast. The rest are not going to get that development. Karen isn't going to get the same level of depth as Jamila. Shauna isn't going to get the attention that Mabel is going to get.

Shauna, Karen, real estate lady, Petunia's sister these are just random encounters and I feel like a lot of us like them every update. We know they won't be featured more than a couple of times down the line and that's ok.

Regarding actual development with main cast. That has happened. Priya went form just being the family Physician to a close friend. We know Liz's situation and we've taken steps to help out. We got a lead on the neighbor from Petunia's sister. Jamila and MC are closer than ever. Some of these relations are Taboo and it feels better to give them time. Some are not taboo like with Aaliyah and that has happened pretty fast as both were attracted. Mabel isn't going to wait for long before she tackles the guy into a corner.

It gets updated Monthly so I feel like things are progressing nicely. Some characters are taking their time some are hitting off quickly. Of course It's just my opinion and I could be wrong. Let's see what happens!
Mama Mabel can get it lol.

I just hope we can focus on the main girls. Priya had some great attention last update, loved it. Can't wait for more. Natalia plot is moving nicely, but imo, she's more a side character, Jamila is probably best girl to me lol, but I hope he takes her on a nice date and she falls deep for him. Kisses him but feels odd about it, but now she has to fight her "motherly" duty, vs her crippling loneliness after her douche husband left her for a Younger model. (I love Jamila lol)

Now that I think about it, lots of douchebag cheating husbands here. Like do they even have eyes? Priya, Jamila, Natalia, probably Fiona's Mom too. Bro, I would take em all on and happily die from dehydration lmao.
 
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