VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[215303j]

But here from a brother's point of view his 15 year old sister first had her first sexual encounters(multiple times as she said) with a 40-50 year old man. I don't know how cool you would be in this case but most people would be very pissed. There's a reason there is an age of consent. It's very easy to manipulate growing teenagers. Many see it as their fault. If you as a brother are cool with it then that's you. Most people are not.

Also i think in other examples you've provided we know the characters. This teacher has just been ominously introduced and we don't know much.

Obviously, IRL I would also be angry.
If she hadn't lost it to Mr. Klaus but to her shitty (ex?) boyfriend, I would still be angry for losing it to anyone but me her beloved Brother. (Hmm, sounds kind of strange, don't you think?)

Anyway IRL I would prefer my close female family members staying virgins until their wedding (to a guy I approve of) and staying faithful to that guy until death. I also have to realistic and understand that life doesn't always work like that.

But this isn't RL, it's a game. And the MC is not me and Haley is not my sister. It's a story which the devs want to tell us.

My post was mainly directed against the NTR feeling that a lot apparently have, which is misplaced, I think.

And, in the games I mentioned, the MC is (or can be) also quite a douchebag and not that dissimilar to the (assumed to be) sexual predator that is Mr. Klaus.

 

[Walter Victor]

spoiler please,
are we gonna have another blue balls (can't fuck Haley) here?

No, your balls will retain their original color. Proceed with no worries whatsoever. [Heh heh heh]

 

[Penfold Mole]

Obviously, IRL I would also be angry.

IRL your sister wouldn't tell you about it and unless you're a lot creepier than it seems, you wouldn't snoop around her to find out.

It's highly likely that if we all knew about when, what kind of things and with whom our sisters have done, our heads might explode.

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I'm quite glad I don't know. Besides the obvious, that she has a daughter with her hubby and had a few regular boyfriends (that me and parents knew about ) before him.

 

[arms99]

I don't like that beard thing

To be fair, I don’t actually see a beard path happening here. I only bought it up as a possible way to get a happy ending in this game. I don’t really care how the dev does it, as long as we get a Haley+MC ending . I’d hate for this to be the first Ptolemy game without a happy ending

 

[Segnbora]

There aren't a lot of realistic ways to keep an incestuous life partnership together, though. They could come out or they could acquire a beard (and the fair number of alternative women thrown at the MC make bearding a possibility, though not all of them are good candidates). The only real alternatives are to go far away and never see anyone they know again, including their parents, or to live in increasingly fearful secrecy while absolutely everyone wonders why they're still living together and why they're not dating anyone.

 

[Walter Victor]

There aren't a lot of realistic ways to keep an incestuous life partnership together, though. They could come out or they could acquire a beard (and the fair number of alternative women thrown at the MC make bearding a possibility, though not all of them are good candidates). The only real alternatives are to go far away and never see anyone they know again, including their parents, or to live in increasingly fearful secrecy while absolutely everyone wonders why they're still living together and why they're not dating anyone.

Perhaps those are the only 'good' alternatives. They could, of course, decide that the situation is impossible and go their separate ways. I doubt if either of them would ever be happy that way, though. They are too invested in each other. Still, that's the way it could happen - a non-happy ending. It wouldn't be the first story (or real-life situation) where lovers were forced apart. Not very usual in a porn game, though [Acting Lessons aside].

 

[Segnbora]

I've been saying for a while, based on nothing other than gut instinct, that I don't necessarily think this game ends with the twins riding off into the twincestual sunset. Or, at least, there will be other ways for the game to end. We'll see.

Depraved Awakening has some pretty not-very-nice endings as well. But in terms of "designated couple sundered" endings, it's pretty hard to top My Girlfriend's Amnesia. (Sequel aside.)

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

I've been saying for a while, based on nothing other than gut instinct, that I don't necessarily think this game ends with the twins riding off into the twincestual sunset. Or, at least, there will be other ways for the game to end. We'll see.

Depraved Awakening has some pretty not-very-nice endings as well. But in terms of "designated couple sundered" endings, it's pretty hard to top My Girlfriend's Amnesia. (Sequel aside.)

I mean... Depraved awakening has tons of endings so if this game follows suit, I won't mind as long as the good out weigh the bad like in that game..

This is also why I say tone matters... Haley and DA aren't the same tone BY FAR lol..

 

[Segnbora]

I don't mind a dark turn. But then you've quadrupled your authorial responsibility and need to sell it to pay it off. I've spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about this and I know how I'd write my way through it, but I'm eager to see how the devs do it and hope they stick the landing. I don't play games of this quality for wish-fulfillment, I play them for the story. For which they now bear a hell of a lot more responsibility.

 

[jamdan]

I get people are upset about the Mr. Klaus stuff, but IMO we cant jump to conclusions. We dont have complete information on what happened. Did Mr. Klaus initiate it? Did Haley? Why exactly did it happen? All those questions need to be answered, by Haley in the next update probably and maybe even Mr. Klaus as he appears to be around and MC is going to find him. This is probably going to be used to show how much MC cares about Haley. Either way, its not Haley's fault, its Mr. Klaus.

Did Haley give her virginity to someone other that MC? Yes, but that isn't a big deal. We know she has loved MC deeply for a while, but she is/was obviously very conflicted about it. Its not even somewhat realistic for her to save herself for her brother, even if she wanted to. That happened close to a decade ago, probably. That is a somewhat educated guess. We know that happened when she was 15. I assume they are out of college, so they are at least in their early/mid twenties (22-25). Besides that, MC is her brother. She had no way of knowing if he would've done it, she likely assumed not (as anyone would).

 

[Walter Victor]

What if when the MC finds Mr. Klaus, he has a big white beard and is wearing a red suit while feeding his reindeer?

Hey! There must be some reason the developer picked that name.

 

[215303j]

What if when the MC finds Mr. Klaus, he has a big white beard and is wearing a red suit while feeding his reindeer?

Hey! There must be some reason the developer picked that name.

Given that the other guy is named Nick, there must be something there...

 

[ptahn]

Word is in the the ALEXANDRA forum that Ptolmey is actually the principal writer for this story, so I guess it should be him with whom I am angry (and yes, this update still pisses me off, I'm back on the ledge.) I feel like after ACTING LESSONS I developed PTSD, and this update just brought it all back. I even went and cancelled my Patreon support to this story. I just would have been more angry if the next update was as bad and was wasting my money supporting it. I might have been a little hasty. I figure if it ends up that I can live with next update I can immediately sign up again and be billed in September as well as October, so I won't actually miss a month.

I noticed that the majority of people did not like this update but some did. In a previous post I mentioned that this turn reminded me of ACTING LESSONS. When the WTF moment happened in AL there was immediate outrage over it. Now comments in AL's forum seem overwhelmingly positive. I wonder if in that story and in this one that the people that are the most upset are the one's that have been there since the beginning. When you spend months playing through the updates, do you have a stronger relationship with the characters than someone who can sit down and get to the current point in the story within a few hours? This story is almost a year old. I wonder if the posts that reflect the most emotion (and I'm talking about the posts about the plot, not the posts about the definition of statutory rape) come from players that have been here the entire year while the posts that are more favorable are from more recent players.

 

[arms99]

I've been saying for a while, based on nothing other than gut instinct, that I don't necessarily think this game ends with the twins riding off into the twincestual sunset. Or, at least, there will be other ways for the game to end. We'll see.

I'm sure they'll be a bunch of different endings for this game. I mean life with Mary had 4 main endings, 2 good (Mary or Simone) and 2 bad (ex or solo) plus a whole bunch of variations within those 4. At the very least I assume that both Haley and Sandra will be getting their own endings in this game. I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one bad ending too (although personally I'd consider any ending without Haley a bad ending). And maybe some of the other girls may get their own endings, although at this time all the other relationships seem very casual, not really worthy of an ending. But you never know, we may have like a sugar-mama ending.

 

[ptahn]

There aren't a lot of realistic ways to keep an incestuous life partnership together, though. They could come out or they could acquire a beard (and the fair number of alternative women thrown at the MC make bearding a possibility, though not all of them are good candidates). The only real alternatives are to go far away and never see anyone they know again, including their parents, or to live in increasingly fearful secrecy while absolutely everyone wonders why they're still living together and why they're not dating anyone.

I think it would be easy to disguise their relationship. They move to another city. They have the same last name so they tell people they are husband and wife. When talking to their parents they mention imaginary dates with other people but say they are too focused on their careers to settle down. All the people they have any contact with now are Sandra and her friends and they would be unlikely to stay in contact if MC and Sandra broke up. Neighbor is only a friend because she lives next door. So if they move away the only people of interest are the parents. When they visit their parents no problem just act like siblings again. If they live in at least a two apartment they move MC's stuff into the second bedroom and continue the charade when the parents visit, although when they visit let them have MC's room and this time MC takes the couch.

 

[arms99]

I wonder if the posts that reflect the most emotion (and I'm talking about the posts about the plot, not the posts about the definition of statutory rape) come from players that have been here the entire year while the posts that are more favorable are from more recent players.

I don’t know, people will see things differently according to their own perspective. I’ve been playing from the beginning and it didn’t really faze me much. Don’t get me wrong I wasn’t happy about it, but I didn’t see it as a betrayal by the writer like others. However, if this becomes a major plot in the storyline I may change my mind.

But like I said people will see things differently irrespective of how long they’ve been playing. For example, I don’t know if you played DFD but there is a point where the daughter turns her back on the MC. Some people weren’t fazed and saw it as just another plot twist to string the game along. But there were others like me that saw it as major betrayal that soured the entire game. She went in one episode from sweet little girl to that bitch I don't want to see again.

It’s all a matter of perspective and we each have our own.

 

[ptahn]

I don’t know, people will see things differently according to their own perspective. I’ve been playing from the beginning and it didn’t really faze me much. Don’t get me wrong I wasn’t happy about it, but I didn’t see it as a betrayal by the writer like others. However, if this becomes a major plot in the storyline I may change my mind.

But like I said people will see things differently irrespective of how long they’ve been playing. For example, I don’t know if you played DFD but there is a point where the daughter turns her back on the MC. Some people weren’t fazed and saw it as just another plot twist to string the game along. But there were others like me that saw it as major betrayal that soured the entire game. She went in one episode from sweet little girl to that bitch I don't want to see again.

It’s all a matter of perspective and we each have our own.

I thought the same thing. You are her father her whole life. She instigates moving your relationship to another level. One day a woman she has never met comes in and says I am your aunt and your father is responsible for the death of the mother you never knew. No proof, and the daughter walks away from her father and won't even tell him why. I played that game faithful to the daughter the entire time and I wished I had not.

 

[ptahn]

I'm sure they'll be a bunch of different endings for this game. I mean life with Mary had 4 main endings, 2 good (Mary or Simone) and 2 bad (ex or solo) plus a whole bunch of variations within those 4. At the very least I assume that both Haley and Sandra will be getting their own endings in this game. I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one bad ending too (although personally I'd consider any ending without Haley a bad ending). And maybe some of the other girls may get their own endings, although at this time all the other relationships seem very casual, not really worthy of an ending. But you never know, we may have like a sugar-mama ending.

I've talked about the ACTING LESSONS twist and compared it to the one in this update (not in scope, but in nature.) Someone in LIFE WITH MARY once posted that the author of MARY should fix Dr. Pink Cakes story. Odd coincidence.

 

[arms99]

I thought the same thing. You are her father her whole. She instigates moving your relationship to the another level. One day a woman she has never met comes in and says I am your aunt and your father is responsible for the death of the mother you never knew. No proof, and the daughter walks away from her father and won't even tell him why. I played that game faithful to the daughter the entire time and I wished I had not.

Exactly. DFD and AL where two instances where I wasn't happy with the writer. I kind of forgave AL because I understood what he was trying to do, still the game for me went from 9/10 to 7/10. I even deducted one star from my Being a DIK review because of AL. DFD on the other was completely destroyed for me, it wasn't just the daughter character it destroyed. In the following update where the MC brushed it off as if she did nothing wrong, it just made the MC look utterly pathetic to me.

 

[JazzyRey]

This isn't animated, yo.