VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Holy Bacchus]

Wow, this story really took a nose dive from my point of view. I don't think I've been this disappointed with the direction of a story since Amanda turned bitch mode on in DFD. I guess i'll check how this turns out, but I find myself caring less and less the more the Klaus thing is dragged on. And from the looks of it, this became the focus of the story, and it will keep being that for many updates. Honestly, from the first few updates this looked like a classical romantic story (with incest, since it's a porn game), that's why i liked it. But it's diverging from that more and more, and it doesn't look this will be my thing anymore. Too bad.

And what exactly is a "classical romantic story"? One without any drama where the characters are just one-dimensional objects with no thoughts, feelings, or history? Every "classical romantic story" that is any good has characters with troubled pasts, character flaws, quirks, etc. They aren't perfect depictions of men and women, they're reflective of a whole spectrum of different personalities, views, life experiences, etc, that exist in our society. What's happening here is no different.

The dev could have just made this a simple love story and ended it there, but clearly they're wanting to make a deeper character study to give these characters more depth and their choices more weight, and that's OK. Perhaps what happened back then explains why Haley is so attracted to her brother, why she wants to be with him, and that's what the dev is doing here. Perhaps, at the end, this is going to be something that pays off in a really satisfying and possibly emotional way that makes this one of the best VNs out there.

Too many people are now dismissing this VN on silly grounds like this whole "beta cuck" bullshit or a dark element of a character's past being revealed that suddenly makes the story less appealing when it actually gives it far more depth than most other adult games and VNs.

 

[Deleted member 444674]

I've been following this story silently for a few months now. I liked it. Didn't love it, but I did think it was good. I still think it's pretty good. Like everyone else, the Klaus revelation bothered me, but for a different reason than the rest. For me, I don't care to know who my partner has fucked in the past. What does that do for me? What does that do for her? Throwing out the Klaus portion for a minute, if neither side is into cucking or sharing, no one has anything to gain from that shit, so why talk about it at all? And then it turned out to be statutory rape. What? Why? How? Did I miss something throughout the story? It was certainly a bombshell but not in a way that felt properly executed.

Do I think the story or Haley suffers from the revelation? No. If anything, Haley is more interesting because of this revelation now than she was before, cause let's be honest, she was your stereotypical incest option with a quippy personality before the reveal. Now, there is more of a reason to discuss her character outside of fawning for such a likable character and incest routes.

No, I think the story suffers from it being poorly executed. The scenario didn't warrant such a conversation to begin with and even then, it felt out of nowhere, unless this was teased properly and I just missed that dialogue. It felt like it was written that way because the writer couldn't think of a more efficient way to reveal it. "So since we just had sex for the first time together, let's talk about your previous partners." I don't think that happens often unless the couple gets off on it.

I felt like maybe it was meant to be foreshadowed through how the mother treats Haley, but it doesn't feel like that's enough. Before v0.55, I had no reason to suspect that the story would turn this direction and that spells out bad foreshadowing, again, unless I missed something, then that would obviously be my fault for my lack of attention.

Anyways, I'm fine with this update. I don't hate the direction it's taking, I just don't think it should be dragged out. This character arc just started and it's already running into problems. Drag it out and it will just go downhill from here.

 

[Alfius]

And what exactly is a "classical romantic story"? One without any drama where the characters are just one-dimensional objects with no thoughts, feelings, or history? Every "classical romantic story" that is any good has characters with troubled pasts, character flaws, quirks, etc. They aren't perfect depictions men and women, they're reflective of a whole spectrum of different personalities, views, life experiences, etc, that exist in our society. What's happening here is no different.

The dev could have just made this a simple love story and ended it there, but clearly they're wanting to make a deeper character study to give these characters more depth and their choices more weight, and that's OK. Perhaps what happened back then explains why Haley is so attracted to her brother, why she wants to be with him, and that's what the dev is doing here. Perhaps at the end, this is going to be something that pays off in a really satisfying and possibly emotional way that makes this one of the best VNs out there.

Too many people are now dismissing this VN on silly grounds like this whole "beta cuck" bullshit or a dark element of a character's past being revealed that suddenly makes the story less appealing when it actually gives it far more depth than most other adult games and VNs.

100% this

 

[Queen of Hearts]

What the everliving fuck happened to this story. It took a swift kick to the cooter these past two updates.

 

[Fjonko]

Alot complains. But dev, dont listen. I just love the story. Gogo, still wana see Haley pregnant with MC

 

[DarkSithLord47]

What the everliving fuck happened to this story. It took a swift kick to the cooter these past two updates.

this is no longer Haley's story, welcome to Rapeville 0.2 and stay tuned cause in the next update we're gonna find out Haley's mother was raped too when she was a kid

 

[JeefZ]

DL'ed now but can't watch yet!! But will soon.... HEHE Im like a little school girl... Can't wait

 

[Holy Bacchus]

this is no longer Haley's story, welcome to Rapeville 0.2 and stay tuned cause in the next update we're gonna find out Haley's mother was raped too when she was a kid

This game has focused so much on the MC and his relationships with multiple women that it was hardly about Haley at all, and now that this VN is finally focusing on Haley and her Story, you and too many others are losing their rag. The way it was revealed may have been ham-fisted, sure, but giving characters emotional depth and weight is anything but a bad decision.

 

[albul]

And what exactly is a "classical romantic story"? One without any drama where the characters are just one-dimensional objects with no thoughts, feelings, or history? Every "classical romantic story" that is any good has characters with troubled pasts, character flaws, quirks, etc. They aren't perfect depictions men and women, they're reflective of a whole spectrum of different personalities, views, life experiences, etc, that exist in our society. What's happening here is no different.

The dev could have just made this a simple love story and ended it there, but clearly they're wanting to make a deeper character study to give these characters more depth and their choices more weight, and that's OK. Perhaps what happened back then explains why Haley is so attracted to her brother, why she wants to be with him, and that's what the dev is doing here. Perhaps at the end, this is going to be something that pays off in a really satisfying and possibly emotional way that makes this one of the best VNs out there.

Too many people are now dismissing this VN on silly grounds like this whole "beta cuck" bullshit or a dark element of a character's past being revealed that suddenly makes the story less appealing when it actually gives it far more depth than most other adult games and VNs.

Looks like the new direction (that wasn't hinted at all for like a year into the game) does it for you. And that's fine, and good for you. Personally, i think there are better ways to add depth to a character, without adding cheap and out of nowhere drama. I never said i expected it to be simple, i don't even want it to be simple, but i am not the only one thinking it was added just for the sake of shaking things up, and it wasn't earned at all. Why haven't they started with this as the background of the story? Why wait for a year for it? Why make this the focus of the story after establishing a different set of expectations from it?

I haven't dismissed it on grounds of 'beta cuck', i feel like you are conflating my comment with others. Although, i do feel like the MC is really passive to the whole thing, and the whole clenching thing has become frustrating.

My main issue with the whole thing is that it feels unearned and out of nowhere, and the execution is just piss poor. In principle, the reveal doesn't make the story less appealing, but the way it's handled and dragging it out for multiple updates, that's what makes it unappealing to me.

'Perhaps what happened back then explains why Haley is so attracted to her brother, why she wants to be with him, and that's what the dev is doing here' - If that turns out to be true, then i will nope the hell out of this story, I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of a MC who is loved by someone because they were raped as a kid by their teacher.

Again, it seems like a lot of people like the new direction, and i am glad for this game's sake, because i wouldn't want a game to fail just because i don't like its direction, and i am hopeful it will be finished. But that doesn't stop me from being disappointed regarding how it has turned out.

 

[Amahl Farouk]

It is called Haley's story for a reason. Going all the way with her brother is an emotional upheaval that is opening up a lot of repressed memories. Her need to be honest with him is a sign of her sincerity. Her sexual wiring is crossed and shorting a bit. She trusts her brother. I really don't see what all the fuss is. This is a well written story and I am in it for the long haul. I am getting the feeling it is going to be a bit of a bumpy ride.

 

[bluehound36]

This porn game needs less drama and more porn.

 

[Amahl Farouk]

There are plenty of porn games out there that are all about banging, this one seems to be trying for a bit more depth, got to be abit of a story in a few of them

 

[Vrijgeest]

Another great update. I just love the intensity of their relationship. It is so real (personal).

 

[alpharenji]

These comments are making me afraid to play the update

 

[Vrijgeest]

This porn game needs less drama and more porn.

There are plenty of "games" that will satisfy your "basic" needs. It is not a porn game but there you go.

 

[Vrijgeest]

These comments are making me afraid to play the update

Why?

 

[AL.d]

People who want a completely drama-less vanilla story, can play "Life with Mary" or any other snore-fest like that. Drama has been driving storytelling since ancient times and I'm not seeing it changing anytime soon. Now if one thinks the way drama is woven into the story is not good, that's completely subjective.

That said, I would have liked if MC had the option to insist on the Mr Klaus issue. A simple "either you tell me or I will learn it from him" would have sufficed. Although I suspect they didn't give it because they wanted to extend that sub-plot to later updates, instead of rushing the resolution.

 

[alpharenji]

Why?

makes the update seem shitty

 

[Deleted member 444674]

My main issue with the whole thing is that it feels unearned and out of nowhere, and the execution is just piss poor. In principle, the reveal doesn't make the story less appealing, but the way it's handled and dragging it out for multiple updates, that's what makes it unappealing to me.

Exactly. The execution could've been better. I'd have no issues if bits and pieces of this story arc were carefully placed throughout the other updates, but I don't recall ever seeing anything that might have represented a darker past before V0.55. Had this been handled better, they'd get no complaints from me. Hopefully, this rough start can turn into a great character arc that treats this topic with care.

 

[botc76]

Okay, new update.
I liked it, I can't quite see why so many people get upset about it, but then again I find plain vanilla romances without some sort of conflict boring sometimes.
Something like the story around the teacher AND obviously how to handle the relationship with Sandra, add the necessary spice into the game.
I prefer it like this. I hope it won't dissolve into something that makes you depressed playing it (here's to you Acting Lessons!), but so far I don't think it will be like this.
My guess is that whatever happened either with Mr. Klaus (or the dad, I do admit that is also a possiblity) was discovered by the mother and that led to the way she treats Haley.

For me her behaviour was perfectly normal before, I actually know many mothers who treat their kids or at least one of them exactly like the twins' mother treats Haley, but it seems that's not the story viitgames is going for here.

Still, like I wrote I have no problem with that so far.
As for Sandra, it might not be her who has been sexually abused by someone elder, her ticks could have a lot of other explanations.
Could even be Victor himself, we just don't know at this point.