VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[bluehound36]

There are plenty of "games" that will satisfy your "basic" needs. It is not a porn game but there you go.

Really? Ok, lets begin with what others have already been pointing out.

Haley's Story - The Therapist Chronicles.

The dev really should be considering switching the name to this. It fits bit better considering what they're doing to the story.

It's one thing to have a bit of drama but this went from a a nice romantic tale to rapesville central in 2 updates.

Depression, statutory rape and abuse isn't quite what I have in mind when I sit down for a bit of love.

It isn't exactly a good plot device for what IS a porn game. Some drama is good but the moment that drama is overdone and not well? It becomes a shit show that not all are going to like that may have actually liked it before the last couple updates made it go into a nose dive.

Secondly, great. You like it. That's nice for you. But just because you like it, it doesn't mean that the opinions of those who don't are not valid, justified or welcome.

Their opinions are just are valid as yours.

If this were NOT a porn game, some people here wouldn't even give a crap about it (numerous people thereof have already stated as such but trolls are too quick to ignore that and would rather start a dumpster fire in this thread for shits and giggles). Quit kidding yourself about what this game is and started out as in the first place. In short, it's exactly as this person already stated quite eloquently.

Good writing or not, again this does not fit with theme that the game started with. Just because it turned mozart while I was listening to pop, doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.

I'd quote more people but I am beyond annoyed with the direction of this game but I should not have to write you a thesis just because you don't like my opinion with what can be summed up with in a short sentence (something which I already did but you decided to act like a douche). If you enjoy what is slowly turning into a dumpster fire, that is your opinion. Have at it and enjoy.

 

[Deleted member 444674]

Really? Ok, lets begin with what others have already been pointing out.



The dev really should considering switching the name to this. It fits bit better considering what they're doing to the story.






It isn't exactly a good plot device for what IS a porn game. Some drama is good but the moment that drama is overdone and not well? It becomes a shit show that not all are going to like that may have actually liked it before the last couple updates made it go into a nose dive.



If this were NOT a porn game, nobody here would even give a crap about it. Quit kidding yourself about what this game is and started out as in the first place. In short, it's exactly as this person already stated quite eloquently.

This game isn’t a masterpiece but that last quote you highlighted definitely is. That’s a perfect description right there.

 

[mugizib]

If this were NOT a porn game, nobody here I would even give a crap about it.

Here. Corrected for you.

Learn to speak for yourself, please.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

If this were NOT a porn game, nobody here would even give a crap about it. Quit kidding yourself about what this game is and started out as in the first place. In short, it's exactly as this person already stated quite eloquently.

If this was just a pure porn game, then why did it take so many updates to finally have some sex in it? This game has always been about trying to build a story, and whilst there have been some bumps along the way and a ham-fisted new story element, it's primary purpose has not changed.

Adult games and VNs don't have to be mindless fuckfests with one-dimensional characters and it would be terrible if they all were. Sometimes it's OK to have a little drama and emotion thrown in and characters who are a little more fleshed-out, but if all you want is games with easy sex and easy women, then go play them and leave the story-based games alone.

 

[bluehound36]

Here. Corrected for you.

Learn to speak for yourself, please.

Oh, i'm sorry troll. I corrected it to actually be accurate on that part. I am not just speaking for myself cause others have already voiced WHY they see this story turning into pure garbage. Just because I made the comment it needs more porn in a porn game and less drama is in no way offensive to you or anyone else. I should not have to provide stunning commentary about why since those points have already been made. If you have an issue with that, go disparage all those other people as well otherwise your behavior is just as inconsistent with the person I was originally replying to.

If this was just a pure porn game, then why did it take so many updates to finally have some sex in it? This game has always been about trying to build a story, and whilst there have been some bumps along the way and a ham-fisted new story element, it's primary purpose has not changed.

Same points that have already been made. The vast majority of you are arguing for the sake of arguing and then some are already attempting to be trolls cause they can't force others into their perspective. Tough, deal with the fact not everyone is going to like what is happening in any given story. Those of us that don't, are not in any way saying for you not to play the game or not to like it. That's your choice. The same as it is the rest of ours that don't like it can express our opinions here in kind fashion.

 

[Vrijgeest]

It really is incredible how some people cant understand the difference between a porn game and an adult VN with sexual connotations. Maybe of course they have little personal experience in these matters.

 

[bluehound36]

porn game and an adult VN with sexual connotations.

Semantics, now you're trying to use word play to justify other people's trolling and your own.

 

[Vrijgeest]

Semantics, now you're trying to use word play to justify other people's trolling and your own.

Just who is trolling? The "meet and fuck" mob or those who like a good story with depth? You seem to be favouring the former.

 

[Deleted member 21439]

I'd like for Haley to be more well jealous? It would feel weird to me, if she actually didn't care, if the MC slept around. I mean she is somewhat badmouthing Sandra, if you're on the Haley only path, but that's it.

The way I see it, she's jealous. You have to know that they are brother and sister. I'm sure she's feeling conflicted inside, whether to pursue her feelings or let her brother be happy with someone else. She knows that having feeling for your brother is wrong but she can't help that and she also can't act upon it, not in a big way, only small strides like kissing. So when she sees him kissing Sandra, she hides her emotion. Although I'm only in day 8 so I may be talking crap.

 

[Segnbora]

What's not surprising: a VN that had incredible complexity and realism has, in its latest update, complexity and realism.

This is a very transtional update. The future is rich with possibility. People who are desperate for fucking should really encounter filmic pornography, which I understand is reasonably supplied with such things.

 

[Vrijgeest]

The way I see it, she's jealous. You have to know that they are brother and sister. I'm sure she's feeling conflicted inside, whether to pursue her feelings or let her brother be happy with someone else. She knows that having feeling for your brother is wrong but she can't help that and she also can't act upon it, not in a big way, only small strides like kissing. So when she sees him kissing Sandra, she hides her emotion. Although I'm only in day 8 so I may be talking crap.

An incest relationship is weird. It is incredibly demanding. Jealousy is a facet that is often in play.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Oh, i'm sorry troll. I corrected it to actually be accurate on that part. I am not just speaking for myself cause others have already voiced WHY they see this story turning into pure garbage. Just because I made the comment it needs more porn in a porn game and less drama is in no way offensive to you or anyone else. I should not have to provide stunning commentary about why since those points have already been made. If you have an issue with that, go disparage all those other people as well otherwise your behavior is just as inconsistent with the person I was originally replying to.

Same points that have already been made. The vast majority of you are arguing for the sake of arguing and then some are already attempting to be trolls cause they can't force others into their perspective. Tough, deal with the fact not everyone is going to like what is happening in any given story. Those of us that don't, are not in any way saying for you not to play the game or not to like it. That's your choice. The same as it is the rest of ours that don't like it can express our opinions here in kind fashion.

When people say they don't like something for bullshit reasons, don't be so offended when they get called out.

Yes, pretty much everyone can agree that the way this story element was included was done poorly, but the vast majority of haters I've seen aren't saying they don't like it for that reason, they just don't like it, period. But it's not even because they're uncomfortable with the idea that Haley was possibly raped, it's because they don't like the fact that Haley has experienced something serious in her life that this VN is going to explore and that she has had sex before. It's like when Haley's boyfriend was accused of being an NTR element because heaven forbid she actually have a relationship with someone else.

It's just a bunch of insecure weak men who think themselves alphas and have this weird hang-up about women being with other men, like it somehow makes them sluts or whores or unclean. They don't want deep, emotional stories, they just want all the women for themselves and don't care to think of them as human beings with thoughts, feelings, and a personality. They don't want to know who they are, they don't want to know their story, they just want to fuck them, and whilst this may be just a game, it says a lot about how they view women in real life.

 

[IndigoHawk]

Good update but over too soon! Drama continues to develop from what we learned last time with some additional character development, and the path forward is becoming clear. I noticed there aren't many choices about how the MC is behaving so his actions are based on his character rather than left as a player choice.

For example, as a player I probably would have gone into the pond, not gone to Klaus's, not told Adriana, and not have been as bothered by the nickname. I think the lack of options shows how the MC is processing what happened.

 

[Deleted member 21439]

An incest relationship is weird. It is incredibly demanding. Jealousy is a facet that is often in play.

Incest usually feels like a cheap way to pull in viewers, but I think that the Dev has really has outdone himself here, I think the story work in its favor. Really well written. I'm personally not a fan of MCs who gets controlled by the girls, but this one is an exception.

 

[UncleVT]

Last call. When the discussion stops being about the game and becomes personal, the thread derails. So, to return it to its course we must try to think a little before posting. This will avoid possible warns and bans.

 

[Jiren86]

I've tried a second playthrough trying to avoid a relationship with Haley but they end up together anyway.

Can it be avoided?

 

[The Archduke]

An incest relationship is weird. It is incredibly demanding. Jealousy is a facet that is often in play.

It being so demanding and, if successful, something extraordinary in itself, would eliminate every desire for other women, for me at least.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Incest usually feels like a cheap way to pull in viewers, but I think that the Dev has really has done outdone himself here, I think the story work in its favor. Really well written. I'm personally not a fan of MCs who gets controlled by the girls, but this one is an exception.

Whilst I disagree that Haley is controlling him, I do agree that the relationship between them is one of the best sibling relationships in any VN. I think what makes it work so well is the short, punchy dialogue because so many other VNs have these long blurbs, both spoken out loud and internal monologues, but this game feels like it has a much more natural dialogue rhythm and the way they joke with and poke fun at each other feels very sibling-like.

 

[istlover08]

I've tried a second playthrough trying to avoid a relationship with Haley but they end up together anyway.

Can it be avoided?

this is "haleys story" odds are no if you could this story probably wouldnt be named what it is

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I've tried a second playthrough trying to avoid a relationship with Haley but they end up together anyway.

Can it be avoided?

Of course not. What did think you were getting when you started playing a VN called "Haley's Story"?