Lotex

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Even if it was as simple and pure like that I would still be pissed with the teacher, would you be happy if you hire a 50 year old tutor to your kids, let them in your own house, them he abuses your trust and deflowers your 15 year old daughter? I would be completely enraged by that, being in a "moment of weakness" is no excuse.

And if it was going to be as simple as that it would probably be a turned page by now.

In what world would a 50 year old man start sharing his personal life with a 15 year old girl about his problems when he was supposed to be tutoring her? It could happen but it's unlikely. He probably manipulated her, threw a bait telling a sad story and Haley fell for it, like I said, he probably didn't even divorce, the stepdaughter is a hint towards that
Probably not, but I can't say for sure how I would react. At the moment I guess I wouldn't be too happy, but I'm not sure if I would fuck up this guys life, but it might be a different story if I either had a sister or a daughter of that age.
The step daughter thing comes down to the question if it's the same wife, I don't think it's mentioned before that or if his wife had a kid before, it might be a new woman, but other than that it could be evil intentions as in let's get into the pants of this teen girl or it might be, as as I said a moment of weakness in one way or another. In my opinion it's always better to keep a neutral stance until you know enough to actually get some facts instead of just speculation, that's why todays media is so fucked up. They mention "allegedly" once in the topic and then make the article look like it's based on facts, while in reality it's nothing but could or might be or supposedly.
 

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She is not a pure waifu anymore, some people feels NTR'ed by the Dev after the revelation.
A lot of people nowadays are absolutely stupid. I recently read something about obesity is anti black and people who criticize jews (not even insult, just criticize) are racists. That should tell you enough about the state of a lot of things and people.
 
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gestved

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Probably not, but I can't say for sure how I would react. At the moment I guess I wouldn't be too happy, but I'm not sure if I would fuck up this guys life, but it might be a different story if I either had a sister or a daughter of that age.
The step daughter thing comes down to the question if it's the same wife, I don't think it's mentioned before that or if his wife had a kid before, it might be a new woman, but other than that it could be evil intentions as in let's get into the pants of this teen girl or it might be, as as I said a moment of weakness in one way or another. In my opinion it's always better to keep a neutral stance until you know enough to actually get some facts instead of just speculation, that's why todays media is so fucked up. They mention "allegedly" once in the topic and then make the article look like it's based on facts, while in reality it's nothing but could or might be or supposedly.
yeah, I know it's not definitive proof, but about the neutral stance, this is fiction man, we are allowed to take sides and maybe be proven wrong further down the line, a lot of times writers makes us biased on purpose and subvert our expectations. And speculation is a sign that we, the readers, are interested in the outcome of that scenario

But sure, we don't have all the facts, and I'm looking forward to see the situation unfold

What we can't do is demand the writer to write the story we want, it's always better for the writer to stick to his vision because he is the only one that has an ideia of the bigger picture
 
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yeah, I know it's not definitive proof, but about the neutral stance, this is fiction man, we are allowed to take sides and maybe be proven wrong further down the line, a lot of times writers makes us biased on purpose and subvert our expectations. And speculation is a sign that we, the readers, are interested in the outcome of that scenario

But sure, we don't have all the facts, and I'm looking forward to see the situation unfold

What we can't do is demand the writer to write the story we want, it's always better for the writer to stick to his vision because he is the only one that has an ideia of the bigger picture
You know in the "old days" when people used to read books. There was a saying, don't judge a book by it's cover. Same applies to these games right. Just because we form a impression of how things are during the first chapters, doesn't mean things wont change down the road. Then it become a question about ride it out or throw it away. Can't really demand of the creator to make it the way we wan't it to be, because then you would end up with dozens of versions and people would still argue over the story.
 

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You know in the "old days" when people used to read books. There was a saying, don't judge a book by it's cover. Same applies to these games right. Just because we form a impression of how things are during the first chapters, doesn't mean things wont change down the road. Then it become a question about ride it out or throw it away. Can't really demand of the creator to make it the way we wan't it to be, because then you would end up with dozens of versions and people would still argue over the story.
my feelings exactly! (y)
 

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Uninstalled.
Every time MC had a choice to get closer to haley, I chose not to. Game just blatantly ignored the choices and went to incest, all over the place, all the time, all the nights, 99% of the pics and 100% of the animations.
Corridor, corridor, corridor.
Dev, write a comics if that's the way you make games.
 

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Uninstalled.
Every time MC had a choice to get closer to haley, I chose not to. Game just blatantly ignored the choices and went to incest, all over the place, all the time, all the nights, 99% of the pics and 100% of the animations.
Corridor, corridor, corridor.
Dev, write a comics if that's the way you make games.
This is a game about Haley's story that is a accompanied by MC through the story events and such.. What else do you expect?

When you go check out ''Game of Thrones''. do you expect to see shrek there with fiona fucking in the bushes and mule fapping in the corner?
 

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or it might be, as as I said a moment of weakness in one way or another. In my opinion it's always better to keep a neutral stance until you know enough to actually get some facts instead of just speculation
Neutral stance? Lmao what? Haley is terrified of her brother leaving her, she wouldn't lie. You don't go to the nearest park to fuck a kid in a moment of weakness. Cheat on your wife with an adult woman? Sure. Fuck an underage girl you're supposed to teach? No.
 

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That is probably some quite a few would preferred to see over what we actually got for last season of GOT, lol.
Guilty.
Not even gonna try and hide it. If GoT wanted to subvert my expectations they may as well go full on fucking crazy and give me Shrek and Fionna fucking.
 

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Guilty.
Not even gonna try and hide it. If GoT wanted to subvert my expectations they may as well go full on fucking crazy and give me Shrek and Fionna fucking.
If that is what peek your interest, just google for it, and you find, lol.
 

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Am I the only one here who didn't read the Haley/Teacher scenario as some kind of forced/rape-y thing? From what I've seen it seemed more like she liked him, he was down and and in a moment of lust/weakness/whatever he gave in and things happened. Not that he was the victim of anything, but it was at least somewhat mutual.
Yeah but it can't be mutual when it's with an under-age person. She can't consent if she's below the age of consent.
 
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I wish the Haley's Story and Life with Mary graphics/character team would work with someone who can write a good plot. Both of the games have likeable characters but awful story. I'm not sure whether that's on purpose or not, but both games could've been instantly better if there's a better storyline to go with it.
 

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You are missing one point. MC and Haley have always been close... she would have told him sooner
Jesus Christ, that's dumb! Have you any earthly idea just how difficult it is for victims of sexual abuse to tell someone about it, let alone a member of their own family? Do you honestly believe there would have been a moment, in their entire lives leading up to that moment, where Haley would just tell him, "hey, my first time was with my married male tutor when I was 15 who may or may not have pressured me into it"? The only reason she told him about was because, after having just had sex with each other for the first time, she was telling him how much better it was than her first time. When the hell would it have been appropriate for her to tell him about her first time before they were sexually active with each other?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, some people on this thread really don't know the first thing about people.
 

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A lot of people nowadays are absolutely stupid. I recently read something about obesity is anti black and people who criticize jews (not even insult, just criticize) are racists. That should tell you enough about the state of a lot of things and people.
Take a look at the thread and reviews since last update, some people are really triggered. If the end of the game is something like Acting Lessons this gonna be an epic shitstorm :whistle:
 

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My thoughts on Last update

1) Logic gaps and changes in Games logic

Start by saying we are in a thread about a game its main theme Is an inctestuous relationship between siblings. Its by default an extremely rare case in real life, but bringing it us As an argumenent and comparing rarity and degrees of depravity of cases between incest and rape or abusive behavior isnt even an arguement.
The nature of the game was known from Start and the rarity of the relationship or how Fucked up the nature of it or of the participants Is in real life terms, Is by default not an arguement.

In fact that Is what made this game unique. Talking an extremely rare case in real life, and an extremely common case in porn Games and presenting it plausible. In a way that seemed to make sense without portraying the protagonists As perverts.

The frame of the story was the most simplistic one. Two siblings living together in a New city, having their first job. Making friends, hanging out, dealing with everydays common issues.

What made this simplistic common story unique was the dialoques. The story was writer driven untill previous update. In a way that showed consistent characters without leaving logic gaps.

Untill the Last 2 updates.

Do i find logic gaps in Last updates? Having As base the way the game was dev untill 0.50 for sure. But the way the story Is driven has changed 100%.

Dev decided to introduce in story extremely rare and uncommon cases.
A statutory rape case Is a rare one. A case between a 15 years old girl and a 48 years old teacher Is even more rare. The victim of such a case not coming to realization through time on her own that she was exploited Is even more rare. The above girl revealing to her long pursued love interest the case just after they had sex for the first time Is even more rare.

Having 40% of the females you know or 100% of the ones you usually hang out being raped or sexually abused Is a rare case.

Security guarding bjs in school toilets for a 5 usd fee out of every 20usd bj Is a rare case.

A typical dad knowing his beloved son, who he encourages to be sexually adventurous, brought a girl in his room during his one night homestay and not brag about it or bring it up to a disqussion Is a rare case.

Everything that Is thrown Into a scenario can be justified in a way afterwards. But the thing Is that when throwing one rare case after another the boundaries of logic and common sense are stretched to the extreme.

And justification of extremely rare and uncommon cases Is by default extremely rare and uncommon. Even more whens these cases are revealed one after another in Last updates.

2) Main problem with Last updates.

The frame of the game Is 100% changed in Last updates. From a simplistic one to the most complexed one devfined by the revelation of one extremely and unplausible case after another.

A story that was 100% writers driven (in a simplistic story frame) , has transformed Into a 100% complexed story frame driven one with the writing and the dialoques being naive common and simplistic.

Now the story keeps evolving by constant revelations or plot twists while the writer who was the main asset and the True protagonist of the story just tries to keep up, justifying extremely rare cases in a meaningfull way, while also having to pull out dialoques lines for dad being an idiot wearing a jacket indoors mid summer or blankets and food appearing out of nowhere.

A 100% viitgames story transformed Into a 100% stereotypical ptolemys one, while the team that Is responsible of coding, rendering and game production Is doing a poor job.

OK. We forgot proofreading, some renders are wrong(viitgames will try to justify them), we mixed the story brancing, or forgot to render and script an aditional scene needed for those who didnt fuck Adriana. (Too busy developing or codeveloping 5 Games at the same time).
Who gives a fuck? Just release it.
 
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