VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Alfius]

I like both, but I want the option to pick one or the other, not a fan of being forced in relationships/sex by games. That way you can do several playthroughs, one with each girl at least.

I can respect your take on this. The problem is that the incestual relationship in the game is such a core part of the story, that not having a relationship with Haley makes the whole game fall flat. I can also see your point regarding Sandra, but again I felt it contributed more to the story and explaining Haley's as a person.

I'm 100% agree with you that both girls are awesome in their own way. I do like the small choices you get in the game about all the relationships and how it affects the game and I do think staying more with either of the girls might play out differently in the future, depending on your choice.

We can already see the resolution if you decided not to sleep with Sandra for instance.

 

[Ragnar]

I can respect your take on this. The problem is that the incestual relationship in the game is such a core part of the story, that not having a relationship with Haley makes the whole game fall flat. I can also see your point regarding Sandra, but again I felt it contributed more to the story and explaining Haley's as a person.

I'm 100% agree with you that both girls are awesome in their own way. I do like the small choices you get in the game about all the relationships and how it affects the game and I do think staying more with either of the girls might play out differently in the future, depending on your choice.

We can already see the resolution if you decided not to sleep with Sandra for instance.

Well, I still think that one path will lead to a threesome with both of them. They're good friends and both love the MC, plus they share some traumas so why not?
Currently I have two paths saved, full man whore path and loyal to Hayley path.

 

[Skylaroo]

Finally, the story isn't anywhere near it's resolution and you're willing to cast this kinda judgement becuase you got a touch of reality and your feels got hurt ? Like maybe the writing is better than you think since it's emotionally damaged you this hard.

Where did I say my "feels got hurt" or that the game "emotionally damaged" me this hard? Are you imagining things?

I'm simply stating my opinion that it's silly to create a new plot point when the game still has so many unresolved plot points to go through, some of which are completely untouched for a while. It's also silly to make a big change from what the game has been so far.

Right! I guess I just like 'poor storytelling' then.

Sure, that's your own statement. I make no claim about what you like.

Oh, about 'Milking the game'. I just love it when posters level this charge here on F95. THIS IS A PIRATE SITE! Most people here download the game for free. They are not being 'milked'. As for the developer's Patrons, they (like myself) vote with their pocketbooks. Since Viitgame's Patrons and revenue have increased lately, it would seem like us cows rather enjoy how we are being milked. The marketplace will determine whether this game is successful financially. Not you.

Sure and I never claimed that F95 members are being milked. Please re-read my post and understand what I posted before making reply that doesn't make sense.

Dev milking the game != F95 members being milked.

It is your right to voice your opinion here, and to vent your spleen. Just don't expect everyone to welcome your harsh criticisms of a game they like without voicing their own opinions in response.

You are 100% allowed to disagree with me, that's perfectly fine and I never said otherwise. If people disagree with me, that's completely understandable as people have different preferences.

 

[ZTex]

Where did I say my "feels got hurt" or that the game "emotionally damaged" me this hard? Are you imagining things?

I'm simply stating my opinion that it's silly to create a new plot point when the game still has so many unresolved plot points to go through, some of which are completely untouched for a while. It's also silly to make a big change from what the game has been so far.

Your wall of regret posting did the talking for you. You didn't have to state that you were impacted when you're literally calling something garbage for not doing what you think it should do. Also you're opinion isn't grounded in reality, if you played the update you'd know that 1) the games far from complete and 2) those things you're complaining about are actually discussed in game. Just because they didn't go from A-Z in your mind doesn't make the Road Trip any less logical or a big departure from what the game was so far.

 

[Vasy]

by the way there is another possible ending to the last update, depending on whether you chose to go on the trip with adriana or not. Alternatively, the updated ended in a bar with victor and you got hint of another bombshell, this time with sandra as the victim.

My takeaway from that exchange was actually that Victor might have been an abuse victim. He looks upset and says Sandra "should really be more discreet". If Sandra was a victim, it would be unreasonable for him to expect she'd never tell her boyfriend, and I can't imagine a reason he would want her not to. He cares about Sandra and the MC, and it's natural in a healthy relationship that at some point that kind of information would be shared between the two.

If he thought, on the other hand, that Sandra was going around spilling his secrets, shared in confidence, it'd be understandable that he'd be annoyed.

 

[magus448]

My takeaway from that exchange was actually that Victor might have been an abuse victim. He looks upset and says Sandra "should really be more discreet". If Sandra was a victim, it would be unreasonable for him to expect she'd never tell her boyfriend, and I can't imagine a reason he would want her not to. He cares about Sandra and the MC, and it's natural in a healthy relationship that at some point that kind of information would be shared between the two.

If he thought, on the other hand, that Sandra was going around spilling his secrets, shared in confidence, it'd be understandable that he'd be annoyed.

I wonder if there is any chance if it was Lucy that it happened to.

 

[Franfad]

I feel the need to comment.

While I understand that most stories here have no structure, and they end up being telenovelas that go on forever and have little in common at the end with the initial premise. This one seems to try to have one. So let me help those who don't understand the last updates out. It all makes perfect sense if you follow the three part story structure. Here is a link.

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[christoprd]

say hello to Mr. Klaus

 

[Vasy]

I wonder if there is any chance if it was Lucy that it happened to.

Do you mean Lisa? It's possible. It could even be an unnamed/unmet character who Victor is close to, another family member for example. Just the way he worded his objection lead me to believe it wasn't Sandra.

 

[spooge_nugget]

My takeaway from that exchange was actually that Victor might have been an abuse victim. He looks upset and says Sandra "should really be more discreet". If Sandra was a victim, it would be unreasonable for him to expect she'd never tell her boyfriend, and I can't imagine a reason he would want her not to. He cares about Sandra and the MC, and it's natural in a healthy relationship that at some point that kind of information would be shared between the two.

If he thought, on the other hand, that Sandra was going around spilling his secrets, shared in confidence, it'd be understandable that he'd be annoyed.

It's possible that it's Sandra's mother/Victor's sister that was abused. Or both Victor and his sister.


I feel kinda like the MC about the whole Mr. Klaus stuff...pissed off. And that is regardless of whether it was consensual or groomed. I just don't like it. I guess it proves that Haley as a character has some depth though, as I actually care about it.

Upon meeting Mr. Klaus' step-daughter, I instantly thought "is the MC going to try to bang her as some kinda revenge?". This would be a very unsatisfying justice/revenge, especially if he groomed her. If he groomed he then I'd much rather completely destroy his life at the very least or castrate and/or end him at the extreme.

 

[Skylaroo]

Your wall of regret posting did the talking for you.

I think you're on crack, mate. What "wall of regret"? Are you sure you actually read my post at all? Being disappointed is nowhere near the same as regret

 

[Joshua Tree]

It's possible that it's Sandra's mother/Victor's sister that was abused. Or both Victor and his sister.


I feel kinda like the MC about the whole Mr. Klaus stuff...pissed off. And that is regardless of whether it was consensual or groomed. I just don't like it. I guess it proves that Haley as a character has some depth though, as I actually care about it.

Upon meeting Mr. Klaus' step-daughter, I instantly thought "is the MC going to try to bang her as some kinda revenge?". This would be a very unsatisfying justice/revenge, especially if he groomed her. If he groomed he then I'd much rather completely destroy his life at the very least or castrate and/or end him at the extreme.

The "Klaus stuff" happens in the real world as well, more than you would think. We just don't get to know about it that often. What really hit the news when it happen is when a female teacher been with a student. A teacher/student relationship of that nature is never okay. But in the case of this game and Haley, we so far just know it did happen, from what Haley said. And then the crowd goes wild and yell rape. While the MC get filled with anger and want to seek up this Klaus fellow.

Last year of high school. Our teacher in social studies fell ill and we got a temp that was right out of school himself just about. Looking back I would claim some of the girls in class did show more interest in him than what was healthy tbh. Now this Klaus fellow is a lot older character, but age doesn't really limit someone from connect.

If a guy nail his teacher. What a stud... if a girl does the same.. oh poor rape victim... Maybe we should just wait and see how the story unfold before go all nuts about it.

 

[Papy.ion6984]

Haley's Story [v0.60] [Viitgames] (2.2 gb rar pc source)
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[arms99]

My takeaway from that exchange was actually that Victor might have been an abuse victim. He looks upset and says Sandra "should really be more discreet". If Sandra was a victim, it would be unreasonable for him to expect she'd never tell her boyfriend, and I can't imagine a reason he would want her not to. He cares about Sandra and the MC, and it's natural in a healthy relationship that at some point that kind of information would be shared between the two.

If he thought, on the other hand, that Sandra was going around spilling his secrets, shared in confidence, it'd be understandable that he'd be annoyed.

I read it a different way. after all when MC talks about abuse of someone he loves, I doubt Victor would have thought that MC meant him. The way I saw it, Victor was upset because the method he used to deal with the abuser may not have been on the up and up. I figure there is a body buried somewhere, hence the need for secrecy.

 

[Ragnar]

say hello to Mr. Klaus
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[spooge_nugget]

The "Klaus stuff" happens in the real world as well, more than you would think. We just don't get to know about it that often. What really hit the news when it happen is when a female teacher been with a student. A teacher/student relationship of that nature is never okay. But in the case of this game and Haley, we so far just know it did happen, from what Haley said. And then the crowd goes wild and yell rape. While the MC get filled with anger and want to seek up this Klaus fellow.

Last year of high school. Our teacher in social studies fell ill and we got a temp that was right out of school himself just about. Looking back I would claim some of the girls in class did show more interest in him than what was healthy tbh. Now this Klaus fellow is a lot older character, but age doesn't really limit someone from connect.

If a guy nail his teacher. What a stud... if a girl does the same.. oh poor rape victim... Maybe we should just wait and see how the story unfold before go all nuts about it.

It's rather complicated really.
The existence of grooming makes consent rather questionable, as it's essentially brainwashing and manipulation (in certain cases even making somebody naive believe that they are the ones actually pursuing, rather than being manipulated). For all we know Mr. Klaus took advantage of Haley's compassion and used his "grief"/"loneliness"/etc. to manipulate her into things.
The question is "is he a predator, or was he just overwhelmed by everything and carried away in the moment?".
The fact that it sounds like it was an ongoing thing leads me to believe that it was a predatory thing, as otherwise, as an older/more experienced teacher I would expect the reality of the situation to hit home after the fact, him to panic and put an end to it.
There's also the fact that he was her first and I just can't imagine a virgin girl (even if she were of legal age) taking the initiative to console a much older man with her body without some major persuasion or manipulation. The only possible way would be if she were secretly "in love" with the person and I just don't get that impression.


When the age difference between a teacher and a student isn't that great then things can be complicated, as the teacher and student are more or less in the same generation, so they can relate to each other easier. The students often see the teacher as more of a peer/friend than an authority figure and due to inexperience, the teacher can find it difficult when it comes to setting boundaries.

 

[Alfius]

The "Klaus stuff" happens in the real world as well, more than you would think.

But in the case of this game and Haley, we so far just know it did happen, from what Haley said. And then the crowd goes wild and yell rape. While the MC get filled with anger and want to seek up this Klaus fellow.

Last year of high school. Our teacher in social studies fell ill and we got a temp that was right out of school himself just about. Looking back I would claim some of the girls in class did show more interest in him than what was healthy tbh. Now this Klaus fellow is a lot older character, but age doesn't really limit someone from connect.

If a guy nail his teacher. What a stud... if a girl does the same.. oh poor rape victim... Maybe we should just wait and see how the story unfold before go all nuts about it.

For me personally (and I'm fully aware that my thinking is outdated in modern times), there is a difference in how men and females perceive sex.

Most people will acknowledge, (or conventional wisdom) that for men sex is a more pure physical pleasure. While for woman, there is a bit more of emotional attachment in sex. The results can be seen in the demand for prostitution, differences between male and female centered porn. Just look at the average users of this site.

This is by no means the same for everyone, I acknowledge that. But it does change my perspective on difference in sexes when it comes to teachers having sex with under age kids. Yes, both are bad, but I do feel that most boys (not all!!) will not be traumatized by having sex with their teachers, but I feel that the percentage of girls (especially at 15) is more open to abuse. A Girl in a woman's body.

This is just my personal opinion, but I have zero respect for a male teacher sleeping with High School girls.
Female teachers does not get a pass, but I'm willing to bet my house that most boys would be over the moon in sleeping with a teacher. (Again not all)

That is why I have an intense dislike for Mr. Klaus, even if it were not illegal.
Feel free to call me a sexist.

 

[Joshua Tree]

This is by no means the same for everyone, I acknowledge that. But it does change my perspective on difference in sexes when it comes to teachers having sex with under age kids. Yes, both are bad, but I do feel that most boys (not all!!) will not be traumatized by having sex with their teachers, but I feel that the percentage of girls (especially at 15) is more open to abuse. A Girl in a woman's body.

Girls mature faster than boys though, that is a scientific fact. Also girls drawn to older guys/boys rather than those of their same age is more common than uncommon. A female teacher seduce a student, or a male teacher groom a student for same end purpose just as bad though, more so because abuse of authority figure. Regardless at current time in this game/story it's a bit to early to start yell bloody murder. If it had been the other way around and the mc told Haley he had sex with his teacher, I doubt none here had flinched of it. More just rolled their eyes thinking how cliche.

Seeing so many emotional about this game and the characters, just prove it's a good game, regardless how much critics the writers get.

 

[Red469]

Hi guys... Just wondering What would you do to Klaus if you were in the Mcs shoes?

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[Methos23]

Klaus and Hayley Klaus and Haley dev like the originals I mean, why else would he fuck up his story like that