VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Avaron1974]

i read all of them that does not change the fact that some users here are forgetting that this is a GAME and will always be a game.
i not want moderator status here i have no time for that.
and i don´t care for the uploading of games here so just you know.

all i was telling was that this is GAME is Fiction and not real.

We know it's fiction.

Just like people critique movies, TV shows and books so to do people critique games.

Everyone here at some point enjoyed the game and whether it be the last update or how the relationships have been laid out there are people that now have taken issue with certain things.

It is well within their forum given rights to share their opinion no matter how good or bad that may be.

You may like how this turned from a light hearted romantic comedy into a dark drama about grooming and sexual assault but others do not. You opinion is no more valid than theirs and this forum gives everyone the platform to share that opinion.

We all know it's fiction, that's not even a debating point, nobody here has questioned that. It's the most redundant comment i've ever seen.

 

[Steinchen]

meh i do not see a dark drama here because i dont´t know the answers for some questions given in the game like i said this could go in many directions no one knows that for sure now.

and i am surly not defending HS here i dont´t like the forced choices here either but what can we do??
it is Ptolemys game if he want to do it that way....

 

[Avaron1974]

meh i do not see a dark drama here

Haley has gone from a character full of life and love into an emotional wreck that was groomed and sexually assaulted at a young age by a man far older.

It's also been hinted at that Sandra was raped when she was younger.

Those don't seem dark to you?

We've now thrown in child rape and sexual abuse into what was a romantic comedy. Shit's just not funny anymore.

 

[DarkSithLord47]

criticism

who said it is not allowed???
i even would like it if it would go another way so just you know.

i can distinguish Reality from Fiction so i put not so much emotion in this kind of games.if the story of such games is good then i would play it does not matter in witch direction this story would go.

i even would play this kind of games if there would be no sexual content in it.

i think everyone here knows the difference between REALITY and FICTION,thats not the case,i think you need to learn a new word called : IMMERSION !! thats what most of the players do when they play a game either porn or action. when i first started playing this game i did it because of the porn but ended up staying for the story and kept playing with my pants on thats how much i liked the story.It made my day happy and i liked reading it but when it turned so dark that fast ofc i wasnt happy with it anymore cause it didnt make me feel good playing it anymore. that's what happens when you mid change a perfect story into a game that should be now called Rape Day. Again,just cause you like it that doesnt mean the game is still good from other's perspective.

 

[apnea111]

Y.O.U. A.R.E. N.O.T. A.L.L.O.W.E.D. T.O. A.N. O.P.I.N.I.O.N. Y.O.U. N.O.N. P.T.O.L.E.M.Y. P.A.T.R.O.N. P.E.A.S.A.N.T.

PS. if a ptolemy nonpaper on what must be said Is handy pls dm

 

[Nifferman]

That he was pissed with fans after 0.55 and threatened he'll start making NTR stories.

What's so wrong with optional/avoidable NTR'S it's like a competition for the Mc...... Just saying...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

He Is like that dude above.

He finds it not logical to critique a movie at the first 30 min.
The thing Is that he himself critiqued that 30 first minutes, giving HS a 5/5 rating.

You see the thing Is these dudes have dysanexia not to all critiques. Only to Bad ones. They even report Bad ratings to take them down.

Stay around. We gonna lol hard

Wrong. I find it illogical for people to think they know how it will end and then to critique based on their own made-up bullshit, which is what a lot of people are doing. People can critique the quick heel-turn of this story all they like, but don't think you know how it will end or know what exactly happened because it's all still incredibly vague right now.

I've said numerous times that whilst it is a jarring change in tone and focus for the story, I'm invested enough in these characters to see it through to the end, and if it works out and the story ends up benefiting from this then great, otherwise I too might very well become more critical. But I'm keeping an open mind about it unlike folks like you who think they know what's going on even though you don't have a damn clue and have just closed your minds off because the VN isn't matching your own personal expectations.

Well, I got news for you, it wasn't made for you personally, it was made by someone who's doing what they want to do and who the hell are you to tell them what they can and can't do with their story? You don't like it, fine, but don't come here acting all high and mighty because you think that shitting on someone else's work and declaring that you will not longer play it makes you the better person.

P.S. I reported those 1 star reviews for spoiling this major plot point. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they can post a spolier in their "review" or make it up bullshit about this VN having NTR when it doesn't.

 

[Sulring Durgul]

With all that shitstorm, I went back to the game and replayed through it twice... And suddenly things became very clear: it's called Haley's story because none of the other girls matter one bit. Not. One. Bit. They're just window dressing.
Whether you actively pursue Haley as a love interest or shun her completely (and whether you boink other girls or not), the story unfolds in the exact same way. MC has no agency whatsoever, no control over events, no choice at all.
And so, free of the illusion that you can have any meaningful impact on the story, you finally realize that from the beginning, Haley is damaged goods.
She's manipulative, deceitful, clingy. She pushes you to get a girlfriend, to be independent, to consider not living with her... Then she tells you she doesn't want you to leave, that you have to break up with your GF, and that it's all on you... Your choice.
I CALL BULLSHIT!

When this game is completed, IF the dev team have actually implemented meaningful choices in the game, I'll happily come back to it. Because I really, really liked some of the characters in this game.
In the meantime, there are other games to play, so no skin off my nose.

Peace.

 

[Alfius]

Can we call a ceasefire on the game? (At least until the next update?)

I think it's a testament to the Dev that everyone loved the game so much that people got so upset over the last 2 updates.
Some like myself do not have a problem with the game direction while other are very upset at the latest turn of events.

I think everyone has made their point a couple of times now already and this is now becoming a bit tiresome to hear the same arguments over and over again. It's becoming to sound like the old NTR arguments. I think both sides have made their likes and dislikes loud and clear.

 

[apnea111]

Wrong. I find it illogical for people to think they know how it will end and then to critique based on their own made-up bullshit, which is what a lot of people are doing. People can critique the quick heel-turn of this story all they like, but don't think you know how it will end or know what exactly happened because it's all still incredibly vague right now.

I've said numerous times that whilst it is a jarring change in tone and focus for the story, I'm invested enough in these characters to see it through to the end, and if it works out and the story ends up benefiting from this then great, otherwise I too might very well become more critical. But I'm keeping an open mind about it unlike folks like you who think they know what's going on even though you don't have a damn clue and have just closed your minds off because the VN isn't matching your own personal expectations.

Well, I got news for you, it wasn't made for you personally, it was made by someone who's doing what they want to do and who the hell are you to tell them what they can and can't do with their story? You don't like it, fine, but don't come here acting all high and mighty because you think that shitting on someone else's work and declaring that you will not longer play it makes you the better person.

P.S. I reported those 1 star reviews for spoiling this major plot point. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they can post a spolier in their "review" or make it up bullshit about this VN having NTR when it doesn't.

So if you leave a movie at 30 min cause you dont like the plot twist and you rate it badly you are a shithead, cause you didnt wait to see the end.

And if you leave a movie at 30 min and rate it at As a masterpiece, without seeing the end that makes you what?

Now cut the crap about the spoilers in the review. Spoilers are everwhere in this forum. If mod started deleting them, it would be nothing left

The thing Is you seem alergic to opposite opinions.

Cheers

 

[Avaron1974]

P.S. I reported those 1 star reviews for spoiling this major plot point. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they can post a spolier in their "review"

Reviews do tend to have spoilers in.

I seriously hope mods give you a warning for wasting their time.

 

[The Archduke]

Yes, a game called Haley's Story could be one of a normal brother/sister relationship or even two lifelong friends, but let's face it, this is an adult game so the chance of it not involving the MC and Haley in a sexual relationship is approximately 0%, so I honestly don't understand why so many are complaining about this.

Way more people would be complaining, if they didn't got together.

 

[Johnny6]

What if Klaus didn't have sex with Hayley. Hayley tried to seduce him and he blackmailed Hayley to keep guard when MC's ex blow gyus in the batroom and he took a cut from that 20. Maybe he did some bdsm things with Hayley but only using dildo because he is a pimp not pedophile or he is impotent. Thats why Hayley is so fond of MC's dick, putting it between thigs and don't let him take it out.
And now Klaus is pimping his stepdaughter/stepdaugters (she looked so much like that hooker MC and Lisa ordered)
Or he is a pedophile and he did fuck Hayley and now he covets young girls and that girl isn't his stepdaughter but a hooker.
Either way Klaus needs to punished, but how and how hard.

 

[bauman]

What if Klaus didn't have sex with Hayley. Hayley tried to seduce him and he blackmailed Hayley to keep guard when MC's ex blow gyus in the batroom and he took a cut from that 20. Maybe he did some bdsm things with Hayley but only using dildo because he is a pimp not pedophile or he is impotent. Thats why Hayley is so fond of MC's dick, putting it between thigs and don't let him take it out.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

So if you leave a movie at 30 min cause you dont like the plot twist and you rate it badly you are a shithead, cause you didnt wait to see the end.

And if you leave a movie at 30 min and rate it at As a masterpiece, without seeing the end that makes you what?

Now cut the crap about the spoilers in the review. Spoilers are everwhere in this forum. If mod started deleting them, it would be nothing left

The thing Is you seem alergic to opposite opinions.

Cheers

It depends on the quality of the movie. If it's a shitshow from the outset with terrible acting, awful CGI and a plot that makes no sense, then leaving early can be justified as it's not likely to get any better. But something that is good to begin with that then takes a sharp left turn in its 2nd act could still pull it together in the 3rd act, and if you leave early and don't see the ending then critique it harshly because of that one moment without seeing how it panned out, then you're doing it from a place of ignorance because you don't have all the information.

I haven't called this game a "masterpiece" but have simply stated that I'm interested in seeing where it goes from here. A better analogy could be that this is the intermission of a play, and whilst everyone recognises that the story has taken a dark turn, we have people who are still interested to see more and others who are immediately writing it off as the worst story ever and storming out the theatre. Each side has their own opinion, but at least one side is being open-minded and are willing to carry on in order to see the whole story before making their minds up, and the other side is just making stuff up in their head about how they think it will go and getting their panties in a bunch because of stuff they're inventing.

I'm not against people voicing an opinion on what they think of the plot twist and how it was handled, but when they go further and think they know exactly what happened and how this will all play out, well then that's bullshit and if I'm allergic to anything, it's bullshit, which a lot of people are spreading right now.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Reviews do tend to have spoilers in.

I seriously hope mods give you a warning for wasting their time.

Spoilers should not be allowed, especially when the "reviews" are written in anger over a single plot point that hasn't been fully elaborated on. Reflexively taking to the review section and shouting "RAPE" and "NTR" can potentially taint a prospective new player's view before they even try it for themselves and cause them to actively avoid a game or VN that they might like all because someone has an axe to grind over something without having all the facts.

 

[apnea111]

Sry Mate,

But you have clearly lost it.
See what you written before.

Well, I got news for you, it wasn't made for you personally, it was made by someone who's doing what they want to do and who the hell are you to tell them what they can and can't do with their story? You don't like it, fine, but don't come here acting all high and mighty because you think that shitting on someone else's work and declaring that you will not longer play it makes you the better person.

Imagine thar type of a reaction to every critique. And an arguement that a random person cant critique for example halle berry catwoman because it wasnt made personally for him or that he Is shit on someone elses work.

I have news for you.
I can critique whatever i want however i want.

If i want to take a shit on someone elses work (by rating low) hell yeah i will do.
Its called freedom of opinion.

I also take a dump on every developer alergic to critigue, even more if He gets angry and threatens the players Base.

I also As a member of this community a take a Hard dump on every developers face that encourages other developers to not participate in this community.

Cheers and out

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Sry Mate,

But you have clearly lost it.
See what you written before.

Imagine thar type of a reaction to every critique. And an arguement that a random person cant critique for example halle berry catwoman because it wasnt made personally for him or that he Is shit on someone elses work.

I have news for you.
I can critique whatever i want however i want.

If i want to take a shit on someone elses work (by rating low) hell yeah i will do.
Its called freedom of opinion.

I also take a dump on every developer alergic to critigue, even more if He gets angry and threatens the players Base.

I also As a member of this community a take a Hard dump on every developers face that encourages other developers to not participate in this community.

Cheers and out

Reading comprehension isn't your strongsuit, is it?

I have said repeatedly that people can critique as much as they want. Say you don't like the plot twist, say that you think it's a bad idea, say you're against the idea that Haley might have been raped, say that you think this is going in the wrong direction. Have at it, hoss. Just dont make up bullshit about the VN's story before we even know what's going on. Don't think that the story needs to change because you are personally offended. Don't shit on the dev's decision before you see if it pans out. They've taken a risk, and they'll either ride that risk to glory or fall flat on their face, but we don't know which of those outcomes it will be yet.

People can be angry right now thinking that it's a mis-step, but what if it works out? What if the story ends in a satisfying way? Nobody knows what's coming next or what it all means, and if it turns out to be terrible then I'll join you all in being critical, but right now all the speculative bullshit about what's going to happen needs to stop because it isn't helpful for anyone.

 

[BTungsteno]

Aside from the darude sandstorm of some comments, V0.60 was good!

 

[preglovr12]

People can be angry right now thinking that it's a mis-step, but what if it works out? What if the story ends in a satisfying way? Nobody knows what's coming next or what it all means, and if it turns out to be terrible then I'll join you all in being critical, but right now all the speculative bullshit about what's going to happen needs to stop because it isn't helpful for anyone.

The game shot itself in the foot. It doesn't matter how well it limps to the finish, it'll always have a fucked up foot.