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I recognise that most of these conversations will be based on feelings but i think arguing with our feelings about how strongly people felt is just too abstract to have a meaningful discussion around.
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I've made 188 comments in 17 months, you've made 272 in 5.
Is it better to have a boring conversation or to have a conversation commenting on a boring conversation?
Really? Someone brings x5 as Ptolemy, that is involved in several projects? That sounds a bit strange. Let alone that ... who major (and it must be a major in patreon-adult-games-sense) developer has not released an update in 2 years?
- May 1, 2018
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Valid points, and this thread might as well be a ghost town...
That's what you discuss though. You can't discuss facts, they just exist.
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My hope is that conversations like it end and future conversations that would be as nebulous dont begin. I know talking about how we felt about the narrative is probably old since its been a month since the last update but that conversation has meat to it. You can say you feel a certain way and point to examples in the game and how you interpret them. Where as if you're arguing about how newer players might feel less strong than older players than maybe you get an anecdote here and there. Feelings are interesting and really great conversations can be had around them but lets not get too abstract or else nothing can really be said either way.
- Jun 23, 2018
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If the developers played a more active roll in the discussion, this thread would not be a ghost town. I woke this site up for a night with one post. Imagine what Viitgames or Ptolemy could do if they were engaged in the discussion.
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If the country the narrative takes place in considers what happened to Haley Statory rape then objectively speaking thats what happened. What other countries consider their age of consent doesnt matter. A more interesting conversation is around whether people of that age have the ability to consent to adults. I land firmly in the camp that consent is not possible between a minor and an adult with such a large age gap and difference in authority. A teenager lives a completely seperate life than that of a middle aged man their concerns are different their goals are different and their values are different. Not to mention the obvious layer of fuckery that comes along with it being a teacher.
- May 1, 2018
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I'm sure that's what the discord is for. I know as a dev I wouldn't really want to put up with people like me with solid enough arguments on why I dislike the game, and reasons why. It'd be fairly hard to brush me off as an idiot, crazy sure, but that's something else. I'd rather spend the time in an echo chamber where the only way in is paying (not saying that's how ptolemy's discord is set up, but I know some are.)
All that said, this has to be the slowest thread of all the monthly updated games, and that to me is pretty telling. Certainly some of that might be due to the complaining, but that's all over this site and not specific to this game.
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It's a game and the title is "WVM." I highly recommend it. The developer is Braindrop.
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You complained about my conversation about the strength of attachment to character and its correlation to the length of time spent playing a game and go right back to the what constitutes rape debate.
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The rape debate genuinely has points to be made. Its possible for two people who started this game at different patches to have played the game the same amount of time. If you spend the time reading all the content your objective expereince of reading the words and looking at the pictures will pretty much be the same across the board but how you feel about what you read and whether or not those feelings are affected by having x amount of extra months knowing about the games existence is beyond anything that can be argued.
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I don't know why but Broken Hearts Club redhead female character(forgot her name its been a while) being raped jumped my I care for her, don't care that she was raped just want to make sure she's ok and will do everything for her; while I am aghast (and mildly angry about the suprise) of Haley's being of minor age rape story. I care for children I would fucking punch any fucking pedos, I even felt incredibly sad and angry when I heard a child was raped and killed in the news of my country but that seems absent to Haley's Story, maybe the later update will improve upon that or it won't.
- Dec 27, 2017
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No you didn't, I did, while pointing out that it is the strongest element of the game, and the thing that endears many players right off the bat, without them having to play through the whole game. I was trying to keep my response related to the game.
But if you insist...
The way I react to my friends is irrelevant to how I react to characters in a porn game. My friends are for life. Characters in a game can become but fond memories after it is finished, while I go on to a new game. I may acquire new friends, but I never relinquish my old friends. My best friendships have remained those I established in high school many, many decades ago. We still keep in touch as best we can, even though we are spread across the country.
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That's not what's being argued though. ptahn is essentially saying binging a TV show provides a different experience than someone that watching it live does. A wondering mind can certainly be a death nail for a lot of media, and binging does not allow that. There's a bunch of people that feel burned by this game (maybe strong wording but it gets my point across)whereas anyone playing it now won't get that strong reaction of backstabbing, just a bad narrative twist.
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The rape debate has been going on since the August update. If you go through the posts you would probably learn the age of consent in most states and many countries. I believe there was also a poster who recalled his own abuse at the hands of a female teacher. The points have been made. P.S. you just joined the boring discussion about feelings.
I think people are overreacting a bit. Haley being abused at some point in the past clearly isn't being introduced as some fetish for us perverts to fap to. Something traumatic may have happened to her and the people who care about her want to help her confront it and come to terms with it. As a story element, it's an opportunity to feel compassion for and ultimately closer to her by helping her deal with something terrible.
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So you agree with me. If you have been playing this game for a year you are fonder of the characters than if you just started the game yesterday.
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Most of us are well past that, and she wasn't "possibly" abused, she was.
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Actually, I don't agree with you in the slightest. The length of time I have been playing has nothing to do with my fondness for the characters. I was fond of them from the moment I started playing. And, yes, my fondness for them has grown, although not because of any time involved, but only because of the progression of the story. I dare say I would feel the same about these people if I had picked up the game yesterday. You might say that I can't know that, but I know myself.