VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Alfius]

OK, so I see a lot of hate on here for either Sandra and/or Haley...totally unwarranted IMO.

So my top 3 girls is

1) Haley:
She is my favourite character by far and might be close to my favourite character on F95, with maybe a close bet between her and Luna. The reason I love them both is that they are both VERY flawed characters. But Haley's flaws is what makes her so endearing to me. She is manipulative, petty, insecure, moody, somber and sometimes straight out mean. But she is also loving, playful, funny, honest and indeed very pretty. I'm not a psychiatrist, but she is also damaged goods in terms of her mental state. She is clearly obsessed with her brother since forever. Her episode with Klaus also did not help her mental state. But one thing is sure, she loves the MC more then life itself. I can see a tragic end if they split up.

2) Sandra:
I actually like Sandra quite a bit. No, she is not perfect either. She definitely have some OCD, is a bit of a workaholic and also a germaphobe. She is also very mature, driven, determined, disciplined, shy, soft, motherly and pretty. Sandra gets a fair bit of stick because the relationship was forced, but blame Haley for that (And Haley had her own reasons.) Sandra is innocent in all this and just want everything to work out. People say that she is too pushy, but that is just her OCD and motherly instincts kicking in. Things must be done right the way she wants it done.

I actually broke it of with her in my main playthrough, as I want to give all my time to Haley. Sandra is still an awesome girl though.

3) Lisa:
If I were to ever cheat on Haley, it would be with Lisa. What I like about Lisa, is that she's obviously open to sexual adventures, but she would never cheat on her friend. Loyalty is so rare end Lisa won my hart with that. A lot of people also complained about her fat boyfriend, but for me that also tells me a lot about her. She is not judgemental when it comes to looks. Along with her sexual open-mindedness, I really have a soft spot for her.

The other girls are attractive, but not really for me.
Diane, is a bit on the shallow side for me. Pretty though.
Alana, unlike Lisa, seems a bit like a back stabber. She flirts with you, while you are with Sandra and messed around with (what seems like) a married guy.
Adrianna, I don't know her well. I'm not on her path. (Will do it when the game is done) I sympathise with her, but she does not do it for me.

 

[Anon21]

Incest. When your sister tells you "Take me, Daddy."

 

[danomator]

Incest. When your sister tells you "Take me, Daddy."

incest. fun for the whole family..

 

[EZ8lt]

i don't think it's the case here or what the devs intend or where they have this story going.. after all haley tells the mc that she had this "thoughts" about him since high school so for all we know they might have been there before the thing with the teacher.. and then there is the jack thing where she basically outright tells him that she's only been with him cause he reminded her of her brother/they look similar (however the mc didn't get that part, we did tho)..

Haley started to have those thoughts pre-Klaus of the MC, as she told during their first time. It's just that she's been going off and on about it ever since, which is understandable since the MC haven't really shown any interest until the beginning of the story other than a fleeting thought.

There's this and the dev comments about wanting to have a dark way to resolve it and give their other games characters some meat. They specifically called out Alexandra because the MC in that game is supposed to be hardened but comes off extremely soft right now.

To be fair, Pupster is only that soft with Alexandra and Izzy, he's usually causal with the other target girls, and still a calculating one with anyone outside of his circle, (the Tanya thing is more of a calculated move) not to mention if the situation demands, he can still snap.

 

[Segnbora]

The dialogue in this episode sparkled in a way it hasn't since before Klaus.

I liked that Haley hasn't stopped wanting the MC to take a dominant sexual role in their relationship, and also that he still doesn't get it. On the Haley-centered routes, her openness to the MC's extracurricular activities remains true to the character. The hesitancy regarding Diane might reflect a coldblooded assessment of how it affects Haley's relationship with the MC: Diane's only interested in casual sex. She can't help hide the twins' relationship.

Her warnings about cheating on Sandra while Haley herself is sleeping with the MC also remain true to character. She's been dreaming of and planning for this relationship since she was a girl. Everyone else in either of their lives was either temporary or irrelevant, and now that victory is within her grasp they're tools to help her preserve that victory. She's not being malicious; she simply doesn't see her relationship with her brother in the same way she sees their relationships with others. They're a different category. Thus it's entirely logical for her to warn the MC that cheating on Sandra with, say, Diane or Adriana — women in the same "category" as Sandra vis-à-vis the MC — while excluding herself from that warning. Though I'd also add this: back when their relationship first started turning physical she was quite clear that what was most important is that they were together, not necessarily that they were sexual, and that the lack of the latter was a possibility she seemed willing to countenance. It's not going to work out that way because this is (among other things) a sex game, but I still have that nagging voice in my head suggesting that there's a much greater than zero percent possibility that Haley and her brother don't end up together.

The total new content seems reasonable considering how many routes have to be serviced: two major branches plus the various "what's the MC's relationship status with NPC?" modifications. Still, people are just going to have to accept that updates will feel shorter because the game's now irrevocably bifurcated. Those on a no-Sandra-but-banged-everyone-else route have the most story in this update, which points out that players bear some responsibility for declining content in their playthroughs. It's nice to want an MC-whoever sex scene that might only appear on one route out of a half-dozen, but it's not reasonable to expect the devs to supply that much single-use content and stick to their update schedule.

I completely agree, The whole Klaus thing needs to end, it's been going on for way too many updates now.

Software updates aren't real life. On the game's timeline the Klaus revelation is still very new.

The way Haley is manipulating Sandra into this is fantastically written. IMHO.

Agreed.

A scene we are unlikely to witness, unless the MC is for some reason invited into the therapist's office with Haley. This entire game is shown from the MC's perspective. No scenes have ever been shown without him present. So anything that happens in the therapist's office will only be revealed second hand, or by inference - as happened in this latest release.

Yes to all of this, and also: a conversation with a therapist doesn't suit the game's dialogue style (short, quippy, fragmented).

[Haley] is my favourite character by far and might be close to my favourite character on F95, with maybe a close bet between her and Luna. The reason I love them both is that they are both VERY flawed characters. But Haley's flaws is what makes her so endearing to me. She is manipulative, petty, insecure, moody, somber and sometimes straight out mean. But she is also loving, playful, funny, honest and indeed very pretty.

Completely agreed. A (to me distressing) percentage of people who consume media only want reliable archetypes that sort neatly into heroes and villains. Give me complexity and flaws, please.

 

[ZTex]

To be fair, Pupster is only that soft with Alexandra and Izzy, he's usually causal with the other target girls, and still a calculating one with anyone outside of his circle, (the Tanya thing is more of a calculated move) not to mention if the situation demands, he can still snap.

Those word weren't my own. I tend to agree more with this point of view but story wise i can see where the dev is coming from.
He doesn't come off yet as the Hardened Guy with a Heart of Gold but instead comes off as kinda a younger but nicer version of Alfred from Batman. Now Alfred is a badass in his own right but that was atleast showcased, most of what we get from pupster isn't his own choice, where Alfred had showcased some level of autonomy.

 

[highfist]

so i just got done with the sandra date in ep 2, should i be leading her on? (and getting as many point with her as i can) i am pretty much here for haley and was wondering what happens

 

[Faptime]

Otherwise nice update, too short, but looking forward for the story to develop further.

The same can be said for Haley's pubes. Too short, but I'm sure they'll develop further!

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

I found the therapist scene very interesting and enlightening as it provided us players with yet another insight into Haley's mental state and how she isn't willing to talk about Klaus just yet and instead is resorting to continuous jokes as a coping mechanism.

 

[greyelf]

Except Lisa....

Quite true..., although the MC hasn't had a sexual interaction with her (yet) so I didn't include her in the list of 'other' women.

 

[pothb]

Yea... Lisa is a no for me. Her route, thus far is you playing the cuck. No thanks.

 

[danomator]

I found the therapist scene very interesting and enlightening as it provided us players with yet another insight into Haley's mental state and how she isn't willing to talk about Klaus just yet and instead is resorting to continuous jokes as a coping mechanism.

well seeing a therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist isn't all about opening on a first appointment.. this requires trust and this trust doesn't just appear out of nowhere after 10 minutes.. sure her joking is a coping mechanism but it's a quite understandable reaction in her case i would say.. and the other thing is that the mc basically forces her to do this and she isn't ready to open up.. it might be different if a person seeks the help him/herself but that isn't the case here..

anyway i agree.. it's interesting and also shows really the quality writing.. this VN isn't just about fucking all girls.. it's a great well written story with a lot of depth.. it hooked me from the start and i couldn't help but sit there for 6 hours straight and there was no stopping until i reached the end of the current game so far.. i NEEDED to know what comes next..
really reminded me of life with mary, sisterly lust and melody.. some of those are just so well done that you can't stop even if it means sleepless nights.. the kind of addiction you sometimes fall into with a good book or a series as well..

 

[happybirthday222]

Is there some English fiction forum? This game invokes my enthusiasm of reading fiction. Could somebody introduce one?

 

[jamdan]

Yea... Lisa is a no for me. Her route, thus far is you playing the cuck. No thanks.

MC isn't a cuck on her path. She didn't let MC join because that would be him cheating on Sandra, so MC could either leave or watch. She has said at least once or twice that if MC wasn't dating Sandra, she would go for MC. Now that MC and Sandra have broken up and the relationship between her and Denis isn't so good, its only a matter of time before they get together.

 

[JoleenStar]

I dumped Sandra ASAP tbh. She was an annoyance to the real story anyway.

 

[215303j]

Yea... Lisa is a no for me. Her route, thus far is you playing the cuck. No thanks.

Eh, how can you be the cuck if you are not in a relationship?

The only possible (!) cuck in this is her boyfriend Denis.

Yes, the MC is just watching, but it's called voyeurism rather than cuckolding.
Like watching a porn movie, but then while being in the room.
People generally have to pay good money for that kind of performance.

 

[Walter Victor]

Like watching a porn movie

Or playing a porn game?...

 

[pothb]

Eh, how can you be the cuck if you are not in a relationship?

The only possible (!) cuck in this is her boyfriend Denis.

Yes, the MC is just watching, but it's called voyeurism rather than cuckolding.
Like watching a porn movie, but then while being in the room.
People generally have to pay good money for that kind of performance.

/shrug

If you wanna use the absolute definition of it...

 

[Twistedper]

I think I like the discussion here (for the most part) as much as the story and I really do like the story.

 

[215303j]

Or playing a porn game?...

Kind of, but with a porn game you can at least pretend to be the MC.

With a movie (except maybe POV, but that's boring) there is nothing else to do besides watching some dude with a big dick fucking some beautiful girl. You can wish you are that guy, but you are very clearly not that guy. And you are also definately not fucking that girl.

Now, personally, IRL, I have absolutely no desire to fuck a porn star, so I'm fine with not being that guy, and happy to fap to a hot looking scene.

If you wanna use the absolute definition of it...

Not really, just two completely different things.