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Sandra be working too muchIf I did that, I wouldn't have Sandra in my game and she's my fave so that would be bad.
As such, Sandra will be staying.
Sandra be working too muchIf I did that, I wouldn't have Sandra in my game and she's my fave so that would be bad.
As such, Sandra will be staying.
There is a spectrum though. How far are you willing to go to get what you want? If you know how to make someone do something they don't want to do, would you?As for manipulative? That happens in any relationship. Let's face it, if a woman (partner, whatever, lets be all inclusive) tell you to jump and you have a great chance to get a treat afterwards, more than often you just say; how high?
That would depend on what is doesn't it? And on that scale, people are wired different in how far they want to go to achieve what they want/need.There is a spectrum though. How far are you willing to go to get what you want? If you know how to make someone do something do something they don't want to do, would you?
As for Haley (and mc). They know its wrong to hide their relationship from Sandra, they know it's immoral. They are trying to trick Sandra into accepting something, that, if it were presented to her head on, she more than likely would not accept, and this is much more Haley's action than MC's action.
So imo Haley is a lot more manipulative than your average person.
Well, if you at a certain age and got a bit of history to look back at. You probably have a great deal of people who could look back at times of making a complete arse out of themselves in attempt of achieve such as wellAs seems evident from the posts above (and from common sense), love and manipulation are not mutually exclusive. In fact, some manipulation is probably essential to achieve love. Think about what you have done in your life to achieve the love of another.
I think you are misunderstanding me.Really? If it is not real love, then what the hell is it? They are twins after all, and have been very close all of their lives. She has loved him as much as he has her. That is only natural between siblings, not to mention twins. Haley has also been obsessed sexually with her brother since puberty (before Klaus). All the elements of any conceivable kind of love for the MC are there and have been there for (probably) a decade.
Frankly, if she does NOT love the MC, then Haley is truly a monster. Perhaps formed so by Klaus, but nonetheless a manipulative monster. That is, without her love for her brother.
Is Haley manipulative? Obviously! But she does truly love him.
The question becomes, can the sexual aspect of their love remain after Haley rids herself of her Klaus demons. It is unnatural after all ... except in porn games. Will she realize how unnatural it is, and break that aspect of their relationship off, once she obtains a healthier attitude toward her past, present and future. My thinking on that is that, since her sexual attraction to the MC predates Klaus (and it is still a porn game), Haley will still want to maintain the full-on relationship with her brother. She will still 'want it all'.
Taken in that context, you will have to admit that it is nearly impossible for a brother and sister, who have lived together for almost the entirety of their lives, to form a romantic love in the way that would occur naturally between people who are not related. Haley and the MC were never going to go out on dates, call each other on the phone, gift each other flowers and chocolates, invite each other out to lunch, or any of the other things that come naturally to the courtship process. They didn't need to do those things, because they have lived closely together for so long that they can complete each others sentences... and even thoughts.I think you are misunderstanding me.
I do not mean they do not love each other. The love each other deeply as siblings and family should love each other.
I meant real love as in romantic love between a man and a woman that forms naturally.
Being obsessed with someone is not natural nor is it normal. People get locked up in jail or get restraining orders because of it. I'm sure there are some people that hides it quite well. And that is the category that Haley falls in.
That is all I meant when saying that. Apologies for not being clearer.
I don't judge this as a porn game. For me this is like reading a normal short story drama.
So yes, it's unnatural.
How so?Sandra be working too much
Haha I actually would prefer that, I've grown to not like Sandra much anymore. She has a bleached pussy and butthole (looks weird as fuck and not how it looks IRL) and the scenes she is in are usually so dark (due to the light) that a lot of her details dissapear. Also not really fond of how Sandra is being manipulated in a really stupid way by Haley and MC that really makes them into total assholes.Totally fucked up IRL, but following porn game logic on the non Sandra route I can see haley2 becoming the beard.
She & Haley bond over their shared trauma with Klaus.
Haley comforts & counsels her & they get very close.
MC is presented as a (marginally) more normal relationship...
I'm a Lisa man myself.... Lisa for the beard!!!Totally fucked up IRL, but following porn game logic on the non Sandra route I can see haley2 becoming the beard.
She & Haley bond over their shared trauma with Klaus.
Haley comforts & counsels her & they get very close.
MC is presented as a (marginally) more normal relationship...
I'm not certain that there will be a 'beard' in the non-Sandra route.Totally fucked up IRL, but following porn game logic on the non Sandra route I can see haley2 becoming the beard.
She & Haley bond over their shared trauma with Klaus.
Haley comforts & counsels her & they get very close.
MC is presented as a (marginally) more normal relationship...
Lisa might actually be the best choice. Adriana is Haley's boss. How would that work? Alana is a late addition that doesn't really add anything. At this point, Haley doesn't even know her. Diane is shallow and only attractive physically. There is nothing there. But, Lisa actually has a personality that is charming. And she's hot as fuck!I'm a Lisa man myself.... Lisa for the beard!!!
That is what I meant...I see it similar to Cercei and Jamie in GOT, except in this one it was one sided. Where with GOT it was mutual.Taken in that context, you will have to admit that it is nearly impossible for a brother and sister, who have lived together for almost the entirety of their lives, to form a romantic love in the way that would occur naturally between people who are not related. Haley and the MC were never going to go out on dates, call each other on the phone, gift each other flowers and chocolates, invite each other out to lunch, or any of the other things that come naturally to the courtship process. They didn't need to do those things, because they have lived closely together for so long that they can complete each others sentences... and even thoughts.
I still maintain that Haley loves, and has loved, the MC in any possible form that love can take (except by definition philautia ).
Isn't there any for v90 ?sorry anyone got a mac version for .90