VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Stevie]

Don't Street hoes call their pimps daddy? Or is that just a stereotype?

 

[Aristos]

Actually, the MC and Haley are not related to each other, nor is either of them related to anyone else in the game. They have been renting rooms from their landlord and landlady since the kids were both 9. The rent money comes from the estates of their dead parents, all four of whom perished in Hurricane Katrina, while the MC and Haley were attending summer camp. They lived with their landlady and landlord for so long that they started calling them 'Mom' and 'Dad'. It's a common, if tragic, story.

Hold on a second. If their parents died in the Katrina they both could have grown up in Alabama, right?
Perhaps in that case Patreon wouldn't frown upon them having the same parents if it's for the sake of cultural awareness.
I remember the first season of True Detective and it did make sense

While the post you're referring to was sarcastic, I think both of you are absolutely correct. And to play devil's advocate here, I don't even think it is a double standard - which doesn't mean I agree with it, just that there is a difference between interactive and non interactive media.
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To be more accurate, the part of my message that was quoted wasn't sarcastic. And I agree with you that the different treatment is based on interactivity. That part of my first message was written jokingly not because I don't think that's the reason, but because I find it ridiculous that such a distinction is argued to justify a witch hunt against videogames.

BTW Cartageno, interesting name for a German person. If it doesn't bother you, may I ask you why you chose it?

 

[Kame-Sennin]

Hmm... WordPad is a word processor. I have found that word processors are not useful in editing programs in any language, because they add so much extra garbage that is not understood by the compiler. Notepad or Notepad++ should work fine. I also use NoteTab Pro, which is not free, but its undo/redo feature is worth the cost.

Well, I succeeded using notepad, just need to have patience with the search button I tried it now and it worked and I replay the scene and no error. Alana now completely forgotten Jake and now calling MC's name during that scene . Now all that's left is to remove the "Daddy" crap thing

Edit: Credits to Walter Victor and goobdoob for teaching me how

 

[Cartageno]

BTW Cartageno, interesting name for a German person. If it doesn't bother you, may I ask you why you chose it?

Nope, the story is short though. I once wanted a Spanish sounding name for some occasion (probably a computer game where I was playing a Spaniard) and to make it sound more masculine just changed one letter from the city of "Cartagena" which I knew from Pirates (Yes, on the Commodore 64). Has stuck since as one of my go to pseudonyms, none of which are actually German sounding. Probably I should have used my Pseudo-Japanese on here though But this one got used for naughty stuff before and I don't want to tarnish one of my other names in case somebody's looking in here.

 

[Aristos]

Nope, the story is short though. I once wanted a Spanish sounding name for some occasion (probably a computer game where I was playing a Spaniard) and to make it sound more masculine just changed one letter from the city of "Cartagena" which I knew from Pirates (Yes, on the Commodore 64). Has stuck since as one of my go to pseudonyms, none of which are actually German sounding. Probably I should have used my Pseudo-Japanese on here though But this one got used for naughty stuff before and I don't want to tarnish one of my other names in case somebody's looking in here.

Hahaha! Nice story. I'd give you a like if I hadn't reached my reaction limit

 

[Penfold Mole]

Well, I succeeded using notepad, just need to have patience with the search button I tried it now and it worked and I replay the scene and no error. Alana now completely forgotten Jake and now calling MC's name during that scene . Now all that's left is to remove the "Daddy" crap thing

Edit: Credits to Walter Victor and goobdoob for teaching me how

Because, unlike WordPad, Notepad is NOT a word processor, but rather a text editor. However, Windows Notepad has been a notoriously bad text editor throughout its long history. One of the most shameful and underdeveloped, yet one of the most widespread pieces of software by Microsoft ...or anyone. Ever.
Not going to count its current nor historical problems here, just suggesting much less problematic editors that have a lesser chance to invisibly fuck up the file you're editing.

Notepad++ for one.
Although Atom is the default editor for Ren'Py.

So better get at least one of them installed for future, since both are free and easy to use.

 

[Kame-Sennin]

Because, unlike WordPad, Notepad is NOT a word processor, but rather a text editor. However, Windows Notepad has been a notoriously bad text editor throughout its long history. One of the most shameful and underdeveloped, yet one of the most widespread pieces of software by Microsoft ...or anyone. Ever.
Not going to count its current nor historical problems here, just suggesting much less problematic editors that have a lesser chance to invisibly fuck up the file you're editing.

Notepad++ for one.
Although Atom is the default editor for Ren'Py.

So better get at least one of them installed for future, since both are free and easy to use.

Thank you for that, but I think even the current notepad will do for now since my current mod is just a minor changes in the dialog in the MC-Alana scene and Haley from Daddy to Bro

 

[goobdoob]

Because, unlike WordPad, Notepad is NOT a word processor, but rather a text editor. However, Windows Notepad has been a notoriously bad text editor throughout its long history. One of the most shameful and underdeveloped, yet one of the most widespread pieces of software by Microsoft ...or anyone. Ever.
Not going to count its current nor historical problems here, just suggesting much less problematic editors that have a lesser chance to invisibly fuck up the file you're editing.

Notepad++ for one.
Although Atom is the default editor for Ren'Py.

So better get at least one of them installed for future, since both are free and easy to use.

My go-to editor on Windows and Linux is gvim. On Mac it's BBEdit.

 

[Walter Victor]

Because, unlike WordPad, Notepad is NOT a word processor, but rather a text editor. However, Windows Notepad has been a notoriously bad text editor throughout its long history. One of the most shameful and underdeveloped, yet one of the most widespread pieces of software by Microsoft ...or anyone. Ever.
Not going to count its current nor historical problems here, just suggesting much less problematic editors that have a lesser chance to invisibly fuck up the file you're editing.

Notepad++ for one.
Although Atom is the default editor for Ren'Py.

So better get at least one of them installed for future, since both are free and easy to use.

I hear you! I cannot count the number of times I have accidentally modified a script I was viewing with Notepad. It's not really a problem when I am just viewing, since I just cancel the change when I exit. But it could cause a big problem if I am editing something and I had accidentally modded something earlier. I have taken to closing the file and reopening it before doing any modifications. I think I will try Atom 1.48.0 and see how that works for me. Thanx.

 

[Penfold Mole]

In Linux terminal, I'm mostly using vim (not that I'm very skillful at using it), on KDE desktop I've been using its default Kate. Haven't really wasted time on looking for a better one.
Notepad++ is what I'm using in Windows.

One of the Windows Notepad's major problems is that it will add "invisible" carriage return and line feed characters to the end of every line the moment you switch on word wrap mode. Depending on what kind of files you're editing, the result can cause havoc.
Second one is that it does'nt respect Unix style newlines without carriage return (Unix text has no line breaks if you open it in Windows Notepad).
This article seems to explain it pretty well, including how to distinguish between them and convert:

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More information about it:

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Third problem is about UTF-8 compatibility. It has been improved since Windows Vista (if I remember correctly), but until recently it was unable to save UTF-8 without BOM. Maybe it still is, not sure.
All three without even mentioning its poor functionality.

All three are the kind of problems that a person who has never edited any kind of code, has no knowledge about the differences between DOS and Unix text format or character encodings and has no other text editor installed to look at the code or convert it back to Unix format, may end up with mysterious and invisible compatibility problems that can cause mysterious errors while the code in Notepad still looks fine.
A beginner may possibly crack his poor head over this for days. Been there, done that.

 

[goobdoob]

In Linux terminal, I'm mostly using vim (not that I'm very skillful at using it), on KDE desktop I've been using its default Kate. Haven't really wasted time on looking for a better one.
Notepad++ is what I'm using in Windows.

One of the Windows Notepad's major problems is that it will add "invisible" carriage return and line feed characters to the end of every line the moment you switch on word wrap mode. Depending on what kind of files you're editing, the result can cause havoc.
Second one is that it does'nt respect Unix style newlines without carriage return (Unix text has no line breaks if you open it in Windows Notepad).
This article seems to explain it pretty well, including how to distinguish between them and convert:

You must be registered to see the links

More information about it:

You must be registered to see the links

Third problem is about UTF-8 compatibility. It has been improved since Windows Vista (if I remember correctly), but until recently it was unable to save UTF-8 without BOM. Maybe it still is, not sure.
All three without even mentioning its poor functionality.

All three are the kind of problems that a person who has never edited any kind of code, has no knowledge about the differences between DOS and Unix text format or character encodings and has no other text editor installed to look at the code or convert it back to Unix format, may end up with mysterious and invisible compatibility problems that can cause mysterious errors while the code in Notepad still looks fine.
A beginner may possibly crack his poor head over this for days. Been there, done that.

Since you're using vim, try gvim. It's vim in its own graphical window, with a scroll bar.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Since you're using vim, try gvim. It's vim in its own graphical window, with a scroll bar.

Thanks. I know what it is. I just didn't like it much when I tried it a long time ago. Maybe I'll take another look and try to switch from Kate, so maybe its functions will stick to my memory better and help with vim in terminal, too.
Kate is more like Notepad++. Not exactly but enough.

 

[GrammerCop]

I hear you! I cannot count the number of times I have accidentally modified a script I was viewing with Notepad. It's not really a problem when I am just viewing, since I just cancel the change when I exit. But it could cause a big problem if I am editing something and I had accidentally modded something earlier. I have taken to closing the file and reopening it before doing any modifications. I think I will try Atom 1.48.0 and see how that works for me. Thanx.

Visual Studio Code is also an alternative. There is a Ren'Py extension you can download.

 

[Vordertur]

Actually, the MC and Haley are not related to each other, nor is either of them related to anyone else in the game. They have been renting rooms from their landlord and landlady since the kids were both 9. The rent money comes from the estates of their dead parents, all four of whom perished in Hurricane Katrina, while the MC and Haley were attending summer camp. They lived with their landlady and landlord for so long that they started calling them 'Mom' and 'Dad'. It's a common, if tragic, story.

Nah, see, that's just the cover story.

A few years ago, during Haley's wilder days (hard to imagine her being crazier than she is now, right?) she was at a college frat party where she witnessed some kid OD on heroin. That normally wouldn't have been a big deal, except the kid in question was the son of an influential senator and since a scandal (like, say, his son doing hard drugs and nearly dying from it) would totally ruin his run for the Presidency, the whole thing was covered up. A bunch of people got paid off: police were bribed to look the other way, the hospital that treated the kid got a nice new wing tacked on to its south side, and all the party guests got trips to Europe or brand new Mercedes SUVs.

All except Haley who, being one of those awful poor people, was simply told to shut the hell up about everything or wake up dead in a ditch somewhere.

That was when the FBI contacted her and, in exchange for her testimony about what she'd seen, offered to give her a new life away from all this crap. But only if she could disappear with her brother.

And that middle-aged couple, with the nice house in the suburbs? Federal Marshals, of course. Witness Protection Detail. We don't see it in the game, but we all know "Dad" sleeps with a Glock under his pillow.

 

[JDVT]

Has anyone figure out what the assets are for the models in this game are?

 

[DWMP]

Why anyone with an incest tag would use Patreon is beyond me. Please overcharge me to take my own money from me and censor my content while your at it.

 

[Walter Victor]

Why anyone with an incest tag would use Patreon is beyond me. Please overcharge me to take my own money from me and censor my content while your at it.

You raise a good point. However, several incest games began before Patreon imposed their restrictions. Also, for a long time it was the only convenient place for developers to sell their games. It still is, if the rules are complied with. Which is why developers who switch their incest games to other hosts (like Mr. Dots) still maintain a page on Patreon for their non-incest games, in order to maintain that revenue source. Plus, many developers find the convenience of Patreon so alluring, that they work out patches for their incest games, or just hope they can sneak by without notice, which worked for this game for a year and a half... and for 10 months since it actually became an incest game.

Patreon is probably the most accessed site for subscribing to porn games. All others are relatively new and unknown to most. Thus, you will hardly find a game here on F95 whose developer does not have a link to a Patreon page, be it an incest game or not.

 

[Walter Victor]

I have downloaded and unzipped the revised release of v0.92 provided on Patreon. After looking through the script for Episode 1, the developers have gone the next-door-neighbor-to-legal-guardian route. THERE IS NO PATCH PROVIDED WITH THAT DOWNLOAD TO RESTORE INCEST TO THE GAME.

Here's the snippet from the code that describes the relationship:

She's your best friend and next door neighbour for as long as you can remember, born on the same day as you and only two hours older than you. And to her, that's enough to always break your balls. But when your parents passed and named her parents as your legal guardians, they took you in, even gave you a room in their house, and held you by the hand till you got to college.

I do not know if the developers plan to provide a patch (or the original version) from some source other than Patreon.

 

[Englen]

I have downloaded and unzipped the revised release of v0.92 provided on Patreon. After looking through the script for Episode 1, the developers have gone the next-door-neighbor-to-legal-guardian route. THERE IS NO PATCH PROVIDED WITH THAT DOWNLOAD TO RESTORE INCEST TO THE GAME.

Here's the snippet from the code that describes the relationship:

She's your best friend and next door neighbour for as long as you can remember, born on the same day as you and only two hours older than you. And to her, that's enough to always break your balls. But when your parents passed and named her parents as your legal guardians, they took you in, even gave you a room in their house, and held you by the hand till you got to college.

I do not know if the developers plan to provide a patch (or the original version) from some source other than Patreon.

Of course they are gonna have a patch and it has already been uploaded to lewdpatcher.

 

[EZ8lt]

I have downloaded and unzipped the revised release of v0.92 provided on Patreon. After looking through the script for Episode 1, the developers have gone the next-door-neighbor-to-legal-guardian route. THERE IS NO PATCH PROVIDED WITH THAT DOWNLOAD TO RESTORE INCEST TO THE GAME.

Here's the snippet from the code that describes the relationship:

She's your best friend and next door neighbour for as long as you can remember, born on the same day as you and only two hours older than you. And to her, that's enough to always break your balls. But when your parents passed and named her parents as your legal guardians, they took you in, even gave you a room in their house, and held you by the hand till you got to college.

I do not know if the developers plan to provide a patch (or the original version) from some source other than Patreon.

The developers of the game won't provide an incest patch. Some unrelated 3rd party will be, call it the incest-patch fairy or whatever you want.

There were a few scenarios in which between they were going back and forth as to how to de-incest, but it was always fall on Patreon if they accept the new scenarios or not. The story still makes sense even with the changes, but it's need a few adjustments here and there. The biggest issue Ptolemy had was the "Why do they have to hide it if it's not incest", without changing the core of the story too much, reworking something this big from scratch was never an option.