It is important to remember that this game, like many that Ptolemy produces is a "hybrid" game, with @Viitgames being the creator of the story, and Ptolemy doing production. As far as I know, this is a first for Viitgames, but it portends good thing for the future, as I think the story he created here is amazing. And the work of Ptolemy's team speaks for itself, of course.
I admit that I'm occasionally not nice.That is pure evil!
This is definitely true if you approach this the wrong way. Obviously, trying to time with a player's clicks is impossible and won't work. I never said the game should try to time music with a player's clicks. There's no way that could be done, as you say. But there apparently is still a way to handle music in the game much better, despite how long a player may take to click through.
Maybe these games used the methods described above?
Obviously. Don't get me wrong: I really like this game. But the handling of the music is often a miss, which apparently doesn't need to be the case.
If everything goes according to plan, then
I never listen to the audio. The first thing I do in the Preferences, after making sure the text speed is at max, it to mute the Music and Voice Sounds. I don't care what music they provide. I've got better music to listen to. This morning I listened to Prokofiev and Sam Cooke. Yesterday, among others, it was Erroll Garner, Bix Beiderbecke, Copland and Philip Glass.
Probably you're not playing all the available paths. This is a problem with any game that has multiple paths. If you don't play them all, the one you do play might not have gotten much content in any one release.
maybe you are right because this ended
Been more than a few days...ok maybe just a few days but still dying to find out what happens next...
Generally I do the same, but there are a few exceptions like BaDIK, City Of Broken Dreamers and maybe a few more, where music matches the content, is well implemented and adds something to the game, not takes it away.
There are a couple of problems with voice acting. The main one is that I can read a helluva lot faster than someone can talk. Which brings up the second problem. I don't want to have to slow the pace of the game to listen to some F-list actress. Moans. groans and sighs are fine during the sex scenes, but other than that, I'm not interested.
Not so match off-topic, really. We were talking about the music in this game, named a few good examples and how we handle the sounds in games. Pretty much on-topic, IMHO.Yup. Off-topic shit! Sorry.
TBH I didn't know this game had sound. If I don't mute the sound in game I have the sound turned off on my PC. Sound is the least important component to a game (for me). As you noted there are some good ones that I've been persuaded to turn on the music (Leap of Faith is another one if you haven't tried it).
Voice acting in these games is terrible without exceptions. I hope that more developers avoid VA in games, especially don't want it in Haley's Story. I already have a "voice" I imagine for her in my head (a pleasant and slightly deeper but melodious voice) and don't need to hear a VA do a high pitched giggly interpretation.
I agree. It's not like we completely derailed the focus of discussion. We were talking about sound management, and especially so in Haley's Story.
Exactly. Proof that it can be done well. I understand that a lot of developers are flying solo, so it's a little ridiculous to expect them to be excellent at: renders; game design; programming; and writing (both dialogue and plot) — and then on top of that also to be excellent at sound management. But if you can't do sound well, you shouldn't do it, then. That was my primary point about its addition to Haley's Story. Since 90+% of adult VNs don't use sound at all, there's really no reason to feel a need for it, regardless of what patrons say.
I actually like the VA for Claudia in Milky Touch, but she's a rare exception; the VA for Karen is atrocious. I hated the VAs in an earlier version of Picture Perfect; there are way too many giggle, laugh, and pouting sound effects in Aurora Origins; VA is equally terrible in Awakening; etc. I actually didn't realize Haley's Story had VA; it must have been added for scenes early in the game or something. Given the generally bad quality of VA in games in general, and given how poorly the music has been handled here, I feel little hope for VA in this game.
