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This is probably one of, if not THE MOST well written game on F95 imho.
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under normal circumstances I would agree, but this game has at least 15 hours worth of content and a few completed character stories... so I guess its up to each person to determine value.What a time we live in where people pay to beta test.Not that I wouldn't.
- Jun 4, 2019
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They're also getting access to new content before anyone else. So yeah.What a time we live in where people pay to beta test.
It actually takes me back to the old days where there was something called a "Closed Beta" where you were only allowed to participate by special invitation, and that could include a price. I've even been involved in some Alphas and pre-Alphas that were the same way.What a time we live in where people pay to beta test.
Too many people confuse Alphas and Betas with full releases, and I have to admit that some of the blame falls on those developers who release them as such.
Oh, yes, absolutely, I've been in plenty of those. I've been a game designer, even.
I can see the fascination of breaking unknown ground, as it were; managed to get my nickname into a game or two.
Still, a lot of people seem to feel rather entitled then, while being poor testers. Especially if they paid for the privilege.
Though I've found that's less of an issue if you allow beta access for people who preordered the final game.
I can see the fascination of breaking unknown ground, as it were; managed to get my nickname into a game or two.
Still, a lot of people seem to feel rather entitled then, while being poor testers. Especially if they paid for the privilege.
Though I've found that's less of an issue if you allow beta access for people who preordered the final game.
- Jan 24, 2020
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Y'all making me feel old now. I'm not the staunchest supporter of the "early access" model (though I understand the benefits) so it still bums me out a little that Kids These Days® will probably never know what the original beta test was like.
It's a good thing, back then there wasn't much demand for games so people had to pay players to play a broken game, now gaming is so popular that demand has switched places with supply and now people will pay a lot of money to play something before others get it. You witnessed the birth of an industry, and now it's flourishing
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Yeah, but how many games got released when we were younger that ended up being completely unplayable because they were so broken? Be it through rushed production or a lack of QC, there were quite a few that should never have been sent out in that state.
As it is now, we're seeing a new trend, where developers have to listen to the testers, because they know if they release a broken product, they won't last too long.
- Sep 5, 2019
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Wait what, have you been hiding somewhere, doesn't the newest madden have the same bugs from like 4 years ago, or how about the backwards flying dragons in Skyrim, or just everything with fallout76.
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I don't know. A broken game is just a broken game. In the past you couldn't patch a game when it was released anymore for good or worse. Today games are released who are broken an some studio doesn't do a shit about it.
I do think it is not about then and now, but about work ethics.
If the console or PC would be as broken as some games on day 1 most of us would give it back or at least would demand a substitute.
And exclusives deals been there since a long time and will always be there. On consoles and PCs only that are more companies out there that play this type of game. At least most of them are "only" time exclusives at least PC games.
And then on top of this comes the DLC "problematic". I don't mean a decent DLC in a addon size, but the small things like fancy cloths, sword, whatever.
I do think it is not about then and now, but about work ethics.
If the console or PC would be as broken as some games on day 1 most of us would give it back or at least would demand a substitute.
And exclusives deals been there since a long time and will always be there. On consoles and PCs only that are more companies out there that play this type of game. At least most of them are "only" time exclusives at least PC games.
And then on top of this comes the DLC "problematic". I don't mean a decent DLC in a addon size, but the small things like fancy cloths, sword, whatever.
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More like games like Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness or Superman 64, ones that couldn't be patched upon release.
- Jan 24, 2020
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I suppose it's still a business and it had to adapt to the times like everything else. Personally I don't understand the appeal to be the first to rush in and play something slightly earlier than the masses, or the fact game companies pay (or give free copies) these select few"influencers" to build up hype for their game(s) hoping to score more sales in a week or two. It actually irritates me a little that this cheeky marketing strategy works, but in the end I may just be an angry old coot who's desperately trying to resist that terrifying and unpredictable "change". I may also be a little bit low-key jealous, but obviously I'll never admit it.
On the other hand, you also get a different level of help when you hire a professional over letting any rando doing too. That said, at least the people who support the game care about it enough to at least do their best because they want the game to do well.It's a good thing, back then there wasn't much demand for games so people had to pay players to play a broken game, now gaming is so popular that demand has switched places with supply and now people will pay a lot of money to play something before others get it. You witnessed the birth of an industry, and now it's flourishing
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The blue oyster? Sweet, so the player will be losing his... 'other' virginity in the next update?
To be honest... I'm not so sure I could agree with this the way things stand right now.
"Early access" or whatever you want to call it is, ultimately, a tool. It can be used to positive effect, or, as it's unfortunate tendency to see in game industry nowadays, as a means of "leveraging" cash-flow without having to put in the effort to really make a good game.
To be honest, QA has always been seen by the upper management as largely pointless "money sink." Mostly because people in those positions either have no idea what QA really adds to the product, or (rightfully or not) think it ultimately does not matter whether or not something works flawlessly and well, as long as those affected by issues are small enough of a percentage of the customer base.
Kind of like IT department in larger organizations. When they can do their work well, you don't really notice the effects of it. What you do notice is when you keep cutting down the budget until things start falling apart, and suddenly that works turns extremely critical.
Then gets outsourced to some third-party "provider" from an underdeveloped country (because wages), and things are hardly better, but that's another story.
It's more that gaming became an affordable mainstream hobby, so the percentage of "I can't wait and this advert looks so awesome and who cares if it's from a publisher that keeps releasing shiny turds LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS!" customers (basically teens and easily impressionable young adults) gets refreshed so often even companies like EA, rightfully loathed by both the industry and gamers alike, still keep in business and do pretty darn toot well, to boot.now gaming is so popular that demand has switched places with supply and now people will pay a lot of money to play something before others get it. You witnessed the birth of an industry, and now it's flourishing
It doesn't help that the constant stream of "we'll fix it post-release" titles is constantly increasing the collective acceptance of steady decrease in quality (see above "young impressionable self-replacing audience" comment), and I won't even go into the totally awesome paradigm the industry realized in cutting out parts of originally planned content to sell it as separate DLCs and MTS.
For the record, even back before the internet companies could, and did, patch their games. There's a reason lots of gaming magazines used to come with floppies (and later CDs)
Most people really do not appreciate how technical "quality assurance" job is.
It's not "playing the game," and you do need a very specific skillset (and frankly, personality) to be really good at it.
Runey's such a hipster he puts in HH memes from back before memes were a thing