ukaking

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I wasn't exactly reading all messages on the forum. but after reading the dev's last message I see that there are other people as well who didn't like lesbian content.
Personally I don't mind lesbian sex but I am not a fan of lesbian relationships, I start getting NTRish vibes. I'd have enjoyed for example Ashley punishing her old bullies, watching the maids put up a show for us, etc. But the fact that Maria is bisexual changes things for me and that too drastically. when she tries to touch and corrupt my girls I start getting angry.
there's this strange feeling that she will steal the girl from me and the other same problems that people have with NTR. and i am not saying that this game has NTR but, the idea of some other girl or boy having feelings of lust and also fucking my partner seems similar to it.
Because of this I started hating Maria to the point that I skip through a event when she is present. Even in a normal event when we don't see Maria's bisexual self in action, I end up getting very irritated and close the game several times before I complete the game. as the dev said it is a harem game so a bit of lesbian will be there so I don't mind because the game is not only for me( I am not even a patron) .
Otherwise I absolutely love this game it is one of those games which I played and felt that if I would have built a game it would be similar to this one. and trust me this is the best compliment one could give. I was enjoying going through the game a lot and if Maria was not there(or be a bit different i.e. heterosexual) it would secure the first place undoubtedly on the list of porn VNs I played.
 

rambo455

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I wasn't exactly reading all messages on the forum. but after reading the dev's last message I see that there are other people as well who didn't like lesbian content.
Personally I don't mind lesbian sex but I am not a fan of lesbian relationships, I start getting NTRish vibes. I'd have enjoyed for example Ashley punishing her old bullies, watching the maids put up a show for us, etc. But the fact that Maria is bisexual changes things for me and that too drastically. when she tries to touch and corrupt my girls I start getting angry.
there's this strange feeling that she will steal the girl from me and the other same problems that people have with NTR. and i am not saying that this game has NTR but, the idea of some other girl or boy having feelings of lust and also fucking my partner seems similar to it.
Because of this I started hating Maria to the point that I skip through a event when she is present. Even in a normal event when we don't see Maria's bisexual self in action, I end up getting very irritated and close the game several times before I complete the game. as the dev said it is a harem game so a bit of lesbian will be there so I don't mind because the game is not only for me( I am not even a patron) .
Otherwise I absolutely love this game it is one of those games which I played and felt that if I would have built a game it would be similar to this one. and trust me this is the best compliment one could give. I was enjoying going through the game a lot and if Maria was not there(or be a bit different i.e. heterosexual) it would secure the first place undoubtedly on the list of porn VNs I played.
the way you are talking about the game i would suggest try another game. it does not seem that this is a game for you from what i am reading.
 
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ukaking

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the way you are talking about the game i would say try another game. it does not seem that this is a game for you from what i am reading.
but i have already played through till 11.2 and if i dont like lesbian doesnt mean that i didnt like the game. i loved the story, the characters, the dialogues, everything. its just the events with Maria that disgusted me. there's a simple solution to that problem go to setting click skip "unseen text" and use ctrl to go through any events with Maria. and TaDaa u have a game with no sharing in it. and secondly if i didnt like the game i would not waste my time giving my views on it. if u r a Maria fan, congrats but the game is not just about her and there are other important and lovable characters out there too
 

rambo455

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but i have already played through till 11.2 and if i dont like lesbian doesnt mean that i didnt like the game. i loved the story, the characters, the dialogues, everything. its just the events with Maria that disgusted me. there's a simple solution to that problem go to setting click skip "unseen text" and use ctrl to go through any events with Maria. and TaDaa u have a game with no sharing in it. and secondly if i didnt like the game i would not waste my time giving my views on it. if u r a Maria fan, congrats but the game is not just about her and there are other important and lovable characters out there too
was just a suggestion.
 

Skummy Ecchi

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Bah people use NTR far too much as a broad term, NTR is a very specific set of circumstances and members of your all female harem getting busy with one another does not count towards that. IT's actually very much an encouragable thing that your harem mates get along with each other and "get along with each other". Anyone who plays harem games should be expectant of this because it isn't all about just the MC being the one and only, they can play among themselves so long as it still falls back on you in the end.

If you didn't want that, you would play something where you are not after a massive harem, far too many people just getting their panties in a twist when there isn't a need.
 

Badjourasmix

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Bah people use NTR far too much as a broad term, NTR is a very specific set of circumstances and members of your all female harem getting busy with one another does not count towards that. IT's actually very much an encouragable thing that your harem mates get along with each other and "get along with each other". Anyone who plays harem games should be expectant of this because it isn't all about just the MC being the one and only, they can play among themselves so long as it still falls back on you in the end.

If you didn't want that, you would play something where you are not after a massive harem, far too many people just getting their panties in a twist when there isn't a need.
Yeah I agree ntr doesn't apply here at all. For me the fun part of harem games is that eventually the girls also start having fun with each other. I think the problem comes from some people not liking lesbian content, which is fine we all have our preferences, but labeling it as ntr is just wrong.
 

Skode

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Mar 9, 2020
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The lesbians in this game are perhaps the BIGGEST initiators of harem content in this funny enough - as they are bi and actively trying to coax the others into the harem more so than the MC himself is lol. Marie is the best wing women i think ive ever encountered in any game haha
 
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Given that the MC can't be with all of them all the time it would be super weird to me if the MC spent all that time making a large group of girls VERY horny and then they didn't start experimenting with each other. It's definitely not what I'm here for but I had no idea there were so many people that it's an active turn off for. Seeing the way different girls interact with each other in both relational and sexual terms has easily become one of my favorite parts of the game.
 
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Speaking of which, I'm very much looking forward to seeing the slaves interact with different characters in the future. Watching some of the girls come to terms with the social power differential between themselves and Lin has been very interesting (Especially Autumn and Hana). I'm hoping the other elves will mingle more in the future. (No rush, Runey)
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Mar 8, 2018
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Can anyone tell me how to avoid all the lesbian, semi-lesbian scenes in the game? Everything involving girl on girl since I've just seen too much of two girls getting all lesbian for no reason in a harem game. It's almost like I'm a minority when it comes to only wanting straight scene in a harem hentai game. Anyways, thanks in advance
If memory serves me, some of them can be mostly avoided, but not all.
 
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Runey

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I wasn't exactly reading all messages on the forum. but after reading the dev's last message I see that there are other people as well who didn't like lesbian content.
Personally I don't mind lesbian sex but I am not a fan of lesbian relationships, I start getting NTRish vibes. I'd have enjoyed for example Ashley punishing her old bullies, watching the maids put up a show for us, etc. But the fact that Maria is bisexual changes things for me and that too drastically. when she tries to touch and corrupt my girls I start getting angry.
there's this strange feeling that she will steal the girl from me and the other same problems that people have with NTR. and i am not saying that this game has NTR but, the idea of some other girl or boy having feelings of lust and also fucking my partner seems similar to it.
Because of this I started hating Maria to the point that I skip through a event when she is present. Even in a normal event when we don't see Maria's bisexual self in action, I end up getting very irritated and close the game several times before I complete the game. as the dev said it is a harem game so a bit of lesbian will be there so I don't mind because the game is not only for me( I am not even a patron) .
Otherwise I absolutely love this game it is one of those games which I played and felt that if I would have built a game it would be similar to this one. and trust me this is the best compliment one could give. I was enjoying going through the game a lot and if Maria was not there(or be a bit different i.e. heterosexual) it would secure the first place undoubtedly on the list of porn VNs I played.
Not liking a character is one thing, and totally fine with me. But did you actually just come out as homophobic? You specifically hate Maria BECAUSE she's bisexual even if she isn't talking about bisexual things? And to have that hatred go so far as to make you quit the game all together wishing she were straight. That's just raw homophobia...

Just because a character likes dicks or pussy, doesn't mean they're going to like your dick or pussy, or any specific dick or pussy. Maria is in love with the player, she makes that obvious. All of her scenes with other women have only been sexual and nothing romantic.

Maria has never had romantic feelings towards any of your girlfriends and will never have romantic feelings. Romance and Lust are two separate things.
 

Aereon1104

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Not liking a character is one thing, and totally fine with me. But did you actually just come out as homophobic? You specifically hate Maria BECAUSE she's bisexual even if she isn't talking about bisexual things? And to have that hatred go so far as to make you quit the game all together wishing she were straight. That's just raw homophobia...

Just because a character likes dicks or pussy, doesn't mean they're going to like your dick or pussy, or any specific dick or pussy. Maria is in love with the player, she makes that obvious. All of her scenes with other women have only been sexual and nothing romantic.

Maria has never had romantic feelings towards any of your girlfriends and will never have romantic feelings. Romance and Lust are two separate things.
He was clear, the point is feeling danger of potential NTR, dont bring homophobia here.
I feel the same with the scene where a random guy trys to book in my hotel.
And yes, i can feel the same vibe in some scenes with Maria, kinda "predatory" after all she is a tough girl with a tough past and has all the strenght to defy the mc
 

ZTex

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Apr 3, 2019
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He was clear, the point is feeling danger of potential NTR, dont bring homophobia here.
I feel the same with the scene where a random guy trys to book in my hotel.
And yes, i can feel the same vibe in some scenes with Maria, kinda "predatory" after all she is a tough girl with a tough past and has all the strenght to defy the mc
It would help if they actually knew what NTR is and werent offended at someone else being in the general vicinity. There's a large difference between NTR, a Poly Relationship and just being paranoid at the wind.

That complaint was most definitely the latter and Runey was 100% right to call out what was very much homophobia.
 

Aereon1104

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It would help if they actually knew what NTR is and werent offended at someone else being in the general vicinity. There's a large difference between NTR, a Poly Relationship and just being paranoid at the wind.

That complaint was most definitely the latter and Runey was 100% right to call out what was very much homophobia.
Do not cite the old magic to me Witch, i was there when it was written

Do you speak of a difference, and i marked it.
 

imzahai

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Apr 19, 2019
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why is no one commenting on the Zinger that Runey tossed in there...
that Maria will never develop more than lust for any of the other gals...
she is bisexual, and we are her only romantic interest... this leaves us vulnerable to losing her to a throuple or an non-resident gal
/dodges the pitchforks and flames

Maria is one of my favorite characters, that she has assisted us directly and indirectly in acquiring more of the ladies is a serious bonus
 

Aereon1104

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why is no one commenting on the Zinger that Runey tossed in there...
that Maria will never develop more than lust for any of the other gals...
she is bisexual, and we are her only romantic interest... this leaves us vulnerable to losing her to a throuple or an non-resident gal
/dodges the pitchforks and flames

Maria is one of my favorite characters, that she has assisted us directly and indirectly in acquiring more of the ladies is a serious bonus
Good point, she is a great wing-lady (?)
 
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DeltaDuster

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Man, what's with the flood of "I HaTe LeSbIaN CoNtEnT EvEn If It'S BiSeXuAl" on the site lately? You don't like it, feel free to uninstall, stop trying to get devs to change their games.

Edit: Two years later and people are still reacting to this.. again, feel free to go find a game that caters to your personal views.
 
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