UnoriginalUserName

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This used to be a great game with tons of sex, dominance, owning slaves acting pretty amoral in general. Now it's a game with almost no sex, tons of backstory, fluff, world building and the MC has been transformed to a vanilla white knight hero who goes around saving the world and having as little sex as possible (unless you smash all the old repeatable scenes still available).

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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Pitrik

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This used to be a great game with tons of sex, dominance, owning slaves acting pretty amoral in general. Now it's a game with almost no sex, tons of backstory, fluff, world building and the MC has been transformed to a vanilla white knight hero who goes around saving the world and having as little sex as possible (unless you smash all the old repeatable scenes still available).

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
I disagree

1)Harem Hotel is still a great game , maybe one the best present in this forum.
2) Almost no sex now. Really?
3) Tons of backstory. I think is nice that we have the possibility of knowing the girls' past. Story makes the scenes more interesting and enjoyable. Look for example at Ashley's past.
4) I think Runey created an amazing MC. Isnt a classic Harem MC who thinks only to get laid. This MC acts like a knight because he cares about girls. He acts for love and not for lust. Nothing bad being vanilla.
 
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I disagree

1)Harem Hotel is still a great game , maybe one the best present in this forum.
2) Almost no sex now. Really?
3) Tons of backstory. I think is nice that we have the possibility of knowing the girls' past. Story makes the scenes more interesting and enjoyable. Look for example at Ashley's past.
4) I think Runey created an amazing MC. Isnt a classic Harem MC who thinks only to get laid. This MC acts like a knight because he cares about girls. He acts for love and not for lust. Nothing bad being vanilla.
+1 and a (y)

It's amazing how some peoples brains and fingers don't connect properly. Maybe they're playing a different game than us? Or choosing to see certain things and not others?

I just don't get that :unsure:
 

Runey

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This used to be a great game with tons of sex, dominance, owning slaves acting pretty amoral in general. Now it's a game with almost no sex, tons of backstory, fluff, world building and the MC has been transformed to a vanilla white knight hero who goes around saving the world and having as little sex as possible (unless you smash all the old repeatable scenes still available).

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Is this a troll? This is objectively wrong.

I have, in fact, been adding more sex scenes than ever. v0.14 specifically had more unique sex scenes than most updates. v0.14 had 17 unique animations, not including outfits. v0.13 had 11. v0.12 had 14. Going back even further, there were still less sex scenes and they were in poorer quality.

And I would still consider 11 new animations to be pretty damn good. I don't play porn games these days, but a few years ago when I played, it's more than some games have in the entire product.
 

Corvus Belli

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Though I will admit, I do get tired of her saying "You might not care, but...." I think I have proven that I do care, a lot.
Bear in mind that Nia has known the MC for a few months, while her experiences from the past three hundred years have led her to believe that humans are terrible, and they do not care about the well-being of elves. It's an ingrained opinion which she's held, with good cause, for substantially longer than you've been alive; expecting her to change her opinion that quickly is asking a bit much.
 

minoslune

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Okay guys... Im really feeling like an idiot right now but... I read that for this update there were some more scenes with each girl and the new date system, Ive talked to every girl and went to every place at every time of they day but it seems like I cant trigger another scene, only new content Ive found is Marias dates and some moon bar scenes (Tho im not sure if this is content from this update or if I just hadnt done em before), any tips? I checked the wikia but idk if its not up to date yet since the update came out recently or if the added content was of another nature than the friendship point events, I also tried checking the transition screen for the icons as some user told me before but theres nothing in there. I also read there was some content with the queen Jia somewhere but I cannot access it x.x.
I used to play using the Lain-mod but now that lain seems to have retired I had to reinstall the 0.13 mod into the 0.14 version because otherwise the game would crash when loading up my save, do you guys think this could be the problem?
beforehand, thank you for the answers.
 

Runey

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Okay guys... Im really feeling like an idiot right now but... I read that for this update there were some more scenes with each girl and the new date system, Ive talked to every girl and went to every place at every time of they day but it seems like I cant trigger another scene, only new content Ive found is Marias dates and some moon bar scenes (Tho im not sure if this is content from this update or if I just hadnt done em before), any tips? I checked the wikia but idk if its not up to date yet since the update came out recently or if the added content was of another nature than the friendship point events, I also tried checking the transition screen for the icons as some user told me before but theres nothing in there. I also read there was some content with the queen Jia somewhere but I cannot access it x.x.
I used to play using the Lain-mod but now that lain seems to have retired I had to reinstall the 0.13 mod into the 0.14 version because otherwise the game would crash when loading up my save, do you guys think this could be the problem?
beforehand, thank you for the answers.
When you installed that mod, you reverted to v0.13. Your save is forever reliant on that mod and you won't be able to play updates until the mod updates. I recommend starting a new save and not modding it so this doesn't ever happen again.
 

Byczer

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When you installed that mod, you reverted to v0.13. Your save is forever reliant on that mod and you won't be able to play updates until the mod updates. I recommend starting a new save and not modding it so this doesn't ever happen again.
Has Lain stopped making mods completely?
 

Runey

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Runey, here's my question.

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Well, at which point was Lin happy being a slave? The moment you met her, she was terrified of you simply because you were new to her and you had power over her. In her very first event you have the option to ask "Are you scared of me?" and she flat out says yes.
Edit: I forgot to mention some nuance. She loves being your slave after getting to know you well, but never loved being a slave in general. I tried showing this off better in Sylvia's remade event. A lot of earlier events were like this, I almost see them as the frame work of the events that replace them now. Such as Ashley's scene where she reaches peak obsession/craziness. She goes on about the people at school giving her shit and says she doesn't need anyone but you, etc, etc. It's only like 1 minute of dialogue. That will probably be remastered at some point. But many things will be kept simple too.

Everyone still loves the dungeon, and I'm still releasing content for it. I will even eventually remake a lot of it and add the ability to make them call you a title like Felicity and Emma. All this content was made to be repeatable so you could do it in the future (or present now).

I don't believe Ellen has changed her opinion much.

The harem is still sexually submissive, but they've become more independant, which is what I think you're noticing. Lin went from a period where she was afraid of you, to willing to do anything for you, to becoming a more equal partner. This was definitely always the plan. You inherited a broken hotel which filled up with broken people, and through progression you upgrade your hotel and relationships and fix many parts of both. I've always wanted to create a story where ACTUAL developments occur. Not something like a level up, but actual character development. Sometimes this gives players the wrong impression (especially since this game is a work in progress) that characters are a certain type of way, or are changing into a certain type of person. (Some people were afraid Lin was going to turn into a turbo slut like Jin for a bit.)

But of course the story evolves with each update, and all the feedback I get. I couldn't tell you with 100% certainty what will be in v0.15 at the moment, but I always have a direction, and that direction has never changed. Priorities have shifted very early in development though when people started complementing me on the story and wanting to know more. I think this was around v0.3. Who knows what this game would look like if people didn't encourage me to write more story, but if that shift didn't happen, the game would probably look more like a dating sim and sex unlocker instead of a true visual novel. I'm glad I went this direction though, because it was what I also wanted to do. I enjoy writing story a lot more than I enjoy writing sex.
 
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