VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.17.2] [Runey]

[Segnbora]

Well, at which point was Lin happy being a slave?

I'm not going to go back and replay the early game to extract quotes, but she was very enthusiastic about the MC for quite a while, including when a blonde elf popped her head over the hedge. I'm not really arguing that she was happy about being a slave, necessarily, but that she was happy with her role vis the MC, happy to be his submissive, happy that he did D/s things to her, and defensive when questioned about it. That said, I don't need to rely on Lin. Kali absolutely loves being sexually humiliated on the beach. So did Maria. So did Ashley at the café. A love of submission and subservience is woven through the entire early stages of the game.

And then the story starts interrogating that love. Which is actually my favorite part of the story, and why I'm still here rather than having written it off. I'm not criticizing the change at all, I'm just asking if it was always the plan. Because the game does exist in a sort of weird between-space. I can piss on my girlfriends because they came without permission, but I can also defend their rights against a society that wants to rip them away. Do I have to do the former? No, obviously not. But I can. And most of them seem to like most of the punishments, as such. Yet the overarching narrative is telling me that this is wrong.

I like that, if I'm not making myself clear. I embrace the conflict and the ambiguity. I was just curious if the game in which we were humiliating tenants and whipping them for coming without permission was always the same story in which we're participating in society-deforming revolutions to free them from that very thing. Because if so, that would be amazing.

 

[Runey]

I'm not going to go back and replay the early game to extract quotes, but she was very enthusiastic about the MC for quite a while, including when a blonde elf popped her head over the hedge. I'm not really arguing that she was happy about being a slave, necessarily, but that she was happy with her role vis the MC, happy to be his submissive, happy that he did D/s things to her, and defensive when questioned about it. That said, I don't need to rely on Lin. Kali absolutely loves being sexually humiliated on the beach. So did Maria. So did Ashley at the café. A love of submission and subservience is woven through the entire early stages of the game.

Yeah, she was happy for a moment, but that happiness was a facade and wouldn't last long, especially to someone who views time like elves do. As Sylvia questioned in her remade intro: "What are you doing? Why are you so content? One of these days, you won't be so happy with your meaningless lives." A little rude, but quite spot on. Lin wants a family with MC, and Lin didn't have much to say when it came to their child having no rights. This was the motivation for Lin to stop being so content, but she's also a selfless person who helps in any way she can.

She is still very happy to be MC's submissive slave sexually, but it's important to separate fetishes from actual rights. That's actually a point I want to show off with this game.

And then the story starts interrogating that love. Which is actually my favorite part of the story, and why I'm still here rather than having written it off. I'm not criticizing the change at all, I'm just asking if it was always the plan. Because the game does exist in a sort of weird between-space. I can piss on my girlfriends because they came without permission, but I can also defend their rights against a society that wants to rip them away. Do I have to do the former? No, obviously not. But I can. And most of them seem to like most of the punishments, as such. Yet the overarching narrative is telling me that this is wrong.

I like that, if I'm not making myself clear. I embrace the conflict and the ambiguity. I was just curious if the game in which we were humiliating tenants and whipping them for coming without permission was always the same story in which we're participating in society-deforming revolutions to free them from that very thing. Because if so, that would be amazing.

"Freak in the sheets, proper on the streets" would describe a lot of these characters very well. I think Vanessa especially shows this trait off well. She's a social activist who fights for freedom, but she has a fetish for being tied up and helpless during sex. This doesn't mean she secretly likes slavery, she just has a fetish for it that corresponds to her character. I think the biggest point here, though, is that during sex they're able to exercise a form of control they couldn't socially or legally. Think about it; Maria gets pissed on socially, but likes it sexually. Lin gets tied up socially, but likes it sexually. (I don't want to make it sound like these fetishes came from trauma though, it just corresponds and also shows you can want both of these things at the same time)

But yes, this was always the intention, always the same story.

 

[alex2011]

I mean, I feel bad for her, and for Jia, but you've got to remember the MC's first goal / responsibility is to keep his current elves safe (especially Lin ) and Jia is...well she's got trackers up the ass. Probably literally. Nia is probably actually really lucky Jia stopped because she isn't outrunning a helicopter and I doubt her surgeon friend is fast enough to scan for, locate, then remove the implants and stitch up someone when the bots are combing the area looking for that little red dot on their HUD.
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If they can somehow get her out of there and shield her / remove her implants, hey, sure, we have room for a funny-hat wearing elf in the sanctuary. It even has HBO! Just be ready to fight Sylvia for the remote.

There are ways to block a remote signal, the problem is I'm not sure if it would use the technology we actually have, which these methods are essentially dependent on.

Probably $5.

I said 'Yes, I'm in' to Nia in the sanctuary when she asked if I'm with her, maybe that's why I'm a little disappointed in the MC's No. Not that I think we could get Jia out that day.

Yeah. Sort of hypocritical to say the least.

The MC was right in going that route as Cornwall was already following and I'm sure he had an army in the shadows just waiting for interference from others or resistance from her.

This used to be a great game with tons of sex, dominance, owning slaves acting pretty amoral in general. Now it's a game with almost no sex, tons of backstory, fluff, world building and the MC has been transformed to a vanilla white knight hero who goes around saving the world and having as little sex as possible (unless you smash all the old repeatable scenes still available).

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

What are you talking about? Runey just added more sex scenes. It was never about owning slaves and has always been about either A running the hotel or B protecting the girls from slavery. Even the slaves he does have are either not owned by him at all or are owned by him because he had no choice in the matter. He doesn't even technically have his own credentials as a slave owner.

This game has always been about telling a story.

+1 and a

It's amazing how some peoples brains and fingers don't connect properly. Maybe they're playing a different game than us? Or choosing to see certain things and not others?

I just don't get that

Maybe they are looking for a game that is more sex than story and found out Harem Hotel isn't that kind of game?

Is this a troll? This is objectively wrong.

I have, in fact, been adding more sex scenes than ever. v0.14 specifically had more unique sex scenes than most updates. v0.14 had 17 unique animations, not including outfits. v0.13 had 11. v0.12 had 14. Going back even further, there were still less sex scenes and they were in poorer quality.

And I would still consider 11 new animations to be pretty damn good. I don't play porn games these days, but a few years ago when I played, it's more than some games have in the entire product.

Same, I am under the impression that this user was looking at the majority of games on F95 and expecting this one to follow the same formula. Little to no story that is terrible in quality if it exists at all, but sex scenes for days.

Bear in mind that Nia has known the MC for a few months, while her experiences from the past three hundred years have led her to believe that humans are terrible, and they do not care about the well-being of elves. It's an ingrained opinion which she's held, with good cause, for substantially longer than you've been alive; expecting her to change her opinion that quickly is asking a bit much.

Indeed, she's jaded, severely. She's going to be a tough nut to crack.

Motherfucking Cornwall...

Yep, he's gone too far and has shown his true colors. Also, I'm pretty sure what happened to Jia, which I am pretty sure he caused, violates his own reforms. This tells me exactly what I believed after Maria's hospital thing, that he never actually cared and was just looking out for his own political career.

Has Lain stopped making mods completely?

Nobody knows, she went out of contact at the end of October and hasn't been heard from since.

 

[Segnbora]

She is still very happy to be MC's submissive slave sexually, but it's important to separate fetishes from actual rights. [...]
"Freak in the sheets, proper on the streets" would describe a lot of these characters very well. [...] Maria gets pissed on socially, but likes it sexually. Lin gets tied up socially, but likes it sexually. [...] But yes, this was always the intention, always the same story.

So, that was my question, and now you've actually answered it. Thank you. It's one of the best parts of this brilliant game.

 

[Runey]

So, that was my question, and now you've actually answered it. Thank you. It's one of the best parts of this brilliant game.

Sorry for the fluff then, I like discussing it all.

 

[Segnbora]

Sorry for the fluff then, I like discussing it all.

Nah, don't be. That this was the point all along makes me admire what you've done even more.

I once wrote a 750,000-word story about an adulterous relationship. I made everyone absolutely love the characters and everything they were doing. And then I killed one and made the other suffer for close to a decade. Which was the plan from the very beginning. Stories are almost always better when they're traumatic.

 

[Segnbora]

I mean, there was a point in this game where it was just about stat-fucking the harem. And during that stage, I hated Ahsley. Hated.

And then you did something that no one else has ever done in one of these sex games. You made me cry. I couldn't believe that I was staring at a Ren'py game and tearing up, yet there it was. Over fucking Ashley.

Well done.

 

[Shadesishere]

Okay, The Devian, Mark Takagi or Runey are probably going to answer this one :
What is the FULL list of requirements to see all additions to which scenes? prior to this update I relied on Lains mod to know if a scene had extras (i.e exhibtion lvl xx for Lin to just change clothes in the open at the store)

I usually get everyone to 10 as soon as a stat becomes available to increase, but just wanted a little checklist I can have on my second moniter for reference

p.s, nice touch here with some of the dates Runey, allows us to have a chuckle :

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

What are the requirements for Lin + Ashley + Maria foursome?

Just get the friendships level higher with each girl. I don't think there's an Exhib/Sub trait for that. Just keeping doing the events for each girl, it should unlock soon enough.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Okay, The Devian, Mark Takagi or Runey are probably going to answer this one :
What is the FULL list of requirements to see all additions to which scenes? prior to this update I relied on Lains mod to know if a scene had extras (i.e exhibtion lvl xx for Lin to just change clothes in the open at the store)

I usually get everyone to 10 as soon as a stat becomes available to increase, but just wanted a little checklist I can have on my second moniter for reference

p.s, nice touch here with some of the dates Runey, allows us to have a chuckle : View attachment 1546051

Alright, this is how I understand it. Maybe Runey or TheDevian know more about the numbers than me, but here's my take....

When I first played the game and unlocked the dungeon, before I proceeded with most of the girls events after that (those who were available at the time; Lin, Ashley, Kali & Maria) I went full bore all-in blitzkrieg on the Exhib/Sub events, and got their Affection scores up where I needed to.

Then I'd do the events with the girls. During some scenes and events, they'd take their tops off (usually at dinner) or with Kali's events, the MC would fuck on her on the beach in front of Lucy or she'd go topless in a pool on a dare while at an event later in her story that involves the droid

I don't have a full checklist for you, maybe only Runey could supply that. But during their "asterisk events" if they were 10 on exhibitionism, they'd lose their clothes on a dinner date and the choice would be hightlighted.

Some of the droid's pinups' outfits also require a high level of Exhib/Sub to activate.

Like I said, I can't give you exact numbers or formulas, but as long as you have 10s for those two "skills," just keep playing, but personally, I always made sure, even now when I do my runs, to get them "10'd up" before I do any events. with them.

Others might be able to tell you more. Sorry that I can't.

 

[Connoisseur NTR]

Game no longer works using joiplay for me rip

 

[freedom.call]

I always made sure, even now when I do my runs, to get them "10'd up" before I do any events. with them.

I do that with Lin (for the challenge) and Kali for the beach fuck, for some reason I don't bother with the rest until later. I've missed out on a few exhib scenes.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

I do that with Lin (for the challenge) and Kali for the beach fuck, for some reason I don't bother with the rest until later. I've missed out on a few exhib scenes.

Uh huh

You sure have

 

[minoslune]

When you installed that mod, you reverted to v0.13. Your save is forever reliant on that mod and you won't be able to play updates until the mod updates. I recommend starting a new save and not modding it so this doesn't ever happen again.

I thought this was the case, well thank you for confirming Runey! at least Ill be able to see all those remastered scenes now

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Alright, I decided to add the two half-sisters to my Screenies collection, which is now over 40k (40,084) and 78.6 GB in size

I know they don't have many scenes, but I don't give a fuck. They're cute Asian girls, and that I can never say no to

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

I never interacted with the droid ("Miyu") much in her room, but she's so cute like this...

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[Evil13]

Just realised I never realised what I named the droid.

Gyna.

Because she's a gynoid.

 

[Jjay08]

Just realised I never realised what I named the droid.

Gyna.

Because she's a gynoid.

I named mine Aigis from persona 3

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

I named mine Aigis from persona 3

I'm almost done with my 28th run, but I need to do this...

#IHATECORNWALL

Runey, never have I hated a VN character as much as him, and with my history in these games, that says a lot.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

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