VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.17.2] [Runey]

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Runey

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Segnbora said:
???

It didn't upset me at all. I just view it as an error that could improve an already brilliant game.


I'm sorry, what's my bias?


But that's my point. Lin is desperate to help Jin. She loves her, no matter how often Jin dismisses her. Yet there's a version of the game (the one in which I don't purchase Jin and she shows up anyway) in which Lin expresses none of those feelings, and Jin just shows up and peaces out, and apparently that's okay with that version of Lin. You know better than anyone on the planet that Lin couldn't possibly be that indifferent to her enslaved sister showing up, coaching some sex practice, and then disappearing.


Which part? The part where I point out that Lin could never be indifferent to her sister, or the part where I point out that Lin could never be indifferent to her sister?


Exactly. But only in the playthrough in which I purchase Jin.

In the alternative playthrough that so many people are defending or attempting to retroactively rewrite — where Jin just shows up out of the ether, teaches her sister how to survive hours of dick, and leaves — Lin apparently doesn't give a shit. Obviously, that's not Lin as you've characterized her. It's not the Lin I know, or adore. It's just not Lin.

That's my point.
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Segnbora said:
Right. That's the "normal" (I guess?) version of the story in which the MC agrees with Lin and tries to help save her enslaved sister. I've played that several times. It's a natural reaction to the Jin sub-story.

In this particular playthrough, I held off on buying Jin for a very long time. And then, suddenly, there she was...coaching Lin on how to win Cornwall's competition. Lin expressed zero concern for her sister, whereas in the other version of the story she and Lin have a whole redemption/rejection arc.

Indifference, for Lin, makes zero sense.
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There has only ever been one version of the story. If you've played several times, you should know this. I haven't developed branching paths, each story always happens in the same order.

Lin and MC always invites Jin to coach her on how to win Cornwall's competition. Jin has never needed to be purchased for that. Lin always meets Jin first through an event before this, and she always has the same reaction, and she does not need to be purchased for that either. I don't know what you're smoking, but it's stronger than what I'm smoking.

I'm sorry if I attributed bias to forgetfulness or even some possible bugs. It definitely sounded like you came in here swinging for no reason, and you're still coming off as aggressive through text to me, but it's always hard to gauge. If its a bug you're reporting, it might have only happened in this playthrough because the way you're wording these events does not sound like they were written.
 
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Segnbora said:
Interestingly, I can no longer purchase Jin. I mean, you can purchase her but she'll never arrive, after a certain point.

So, if you're playing and want Jin in your lives: pick her up soon. Once she's required, she's no longer available.

(After realizing this, I went back to a save in which I could purchase Jin, put her through her story, and then we could do the whole Cornwall thing. I'm once more on track.)
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If you have a save from before that happened, maybe some of us can look too. If that is a bug, then it must have some strange combination of events to trigger, or I would assume we would hear more reports of this.
 
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Runey

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TheDevian said:
If you have a save from before that happened, maybe some of us can look too. If that is a bug, then it must have some strange combination of events to trigger, or I would assume we would hear more reports of this.
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This is the first time I'm hearing of Jin not being available when she's needed as well. This is sounding more like the world's worst bug report now haha
 
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tukanoid

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Gallery unlock:

# For Pro Hackers #
1. Go to game/scripts/gallery.rpy
2. Find this function
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2. Change 'cond' to 'True' (capital 'T' is required)
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3. Launch the game and enjoy every scene in the gallery.

# For Noobs #
1. Download the 'gallery.rpy'
2. Replace it in 'game/scripts/gallery.rpy'
3. Launch the game and enjoy every scene in the gallery.
 
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Lord Ashram

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tukanoid said:
Gallery unlock:
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You forgot to mention this will need to be done every time Runey updates the Galley.rpy file, otherwise this can cause more headaches for Runey with complaints about the game is broken when things get updated and they use the outdated file.

Also this is only useful for those who don't want any of the other stuff that the WT/Cheat Mod also provides.
 
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Budoop

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xZecretX said:
Highly subjective, I wasn't the only one who already commented about their distaste of Daz. It's as if you were to compare 2D with 3D, there are varying opinions about them where some prefer 2D while others 3D.

You can wish for new games, but I hope none of the ongoing games would suddenly switch their models, and I don't specify here because it could go either way. Whether it switches from HS to Daz or from Daz to HS, or any other type of models, by doing so the community around the game will be split into those who liked the game originally and those who either don't mind the change or are new to the game. Or even worse, those who leave because they lost the familiarity to the characters because of the different models, because next to their personality their appearance can matter that much.

There really isn't much of a benefit unless the dev specifically wants it for personal reasons or if the majority (via some kind of vote) wants it, and there isn't much you can do about it (especially as the minority) other than just going your own way similar to when new games first show up, either you like it or you don't. In either case it will never be a "win-win".

Sylphia Island to Sylphine is one example, it was initially made in HS but was then remade with Daz models (if I remember correctly because of lost files). I didn't pay as much attention to what others said but there were those who supported it and those who liked the previous game. I, for example, almost immediately lost interest when it happened.

Besides that, I actively avoid games with Daz models, to the point where I ignore them (I mean the feature) whenever I see them in Latest Updates similar to genres and other factors I dislike. And the same can be true for others as well, or the other way around, like I said, simply because it is highly subjective.
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Runey said:
Honey Select is a completely different art style, and unless you only use the default assets and don't tweak any of the graphical settings, it will look like a game from 2004. But if you know what you're doing, you can make it look like something from last gen I think (just stylized, not realistic)
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Perniciousducks said:
I wish HS had more options for things like hair etc. but I'd take a basic HS game over Daz any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Daz may be more recent tech, but everything I've ever seen with it looks like nightmare fuel. It's polar express vs. a pixar movie. Polar express is closer to reality, but looks awful because of it.

Daz just lands dead center in the uncanny valley and triggers my hate response. I'd immediately delete this game from my computer and consider burning the hard drive if it switched.
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Really surprised here, I just prefer the more detailed look you get.
Interesting to see the various opinions on it though.
 
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Hey, so what dialog unlocks do i get if Lin calls the MC Daddy?

I personally dont like her to call the MC daddy, i prefer Master but im curious what ill be missing if i have her call the MC anything other than daddy ... ?
 
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code991 said:
Hey, so what dialog unlocks do i get if Lin calls the MC Daddy?

I personally dont like her to call the MC daddy, i prefer Master but im curious what ill be missing if i have her call the MC anything other than daddy ... ?
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I like to have my slaves call MC by the MC's name, and there's some dialogue with Lin being surprised at having such a kind master :)
 
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void bain

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umm wow this is interesting convo you got going on here. First, I can't stress this enough what a great game you got going on here runey. 2nd quit spitting and prove your point segnbora upload your save file thats the best way. 3rd runey sometimes you can't make everyone happy even in a porn game and some ppl love conflict no matter how much you want to solve everyone's problems. It's like making a cake for your best friend and you always see them eat chocolate. So, you make a chocolate cake, and they start fighting with you stating they like vanilla better. Personally, I like cinnamon cake but that's beside the point. Just some ppl just wants to fight runey. Hmm that's a good story idea...you just can't make everyone happy and have to make a sacrifice...nope never mind bad idea with your girls
 
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void bain said:
umm wow this is interesting convo you got going on here. First, I can't stress this enough what a great game you got going on here runey. 2nd quit spitting and prove your point segnbora upload your save file thats the best way. 3rd runey sometimes you can't make everyone happy even in a porn game and some ppl love conflict no matter how much you want to solve everyone's problems. It's like making a cake for your best friend and you always see them eat chocolate. So, you make a chocolate cake, and they start fighting with you stating they like vanilla better. Personally, I like cinnamon cake but that's beside the point. Just some ppl just wants to fight runey. Hmm that's a good story idea...you just can't make everyone happy and have to make a sacrifice...nope never mind bad idea with your girls
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Runey likes pie. Did you even play the game, bro ;)
 
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