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Well - you brought the topic on a 'high level' in comparison to what it was before by quoting and addressing real life terms in relation to a fictional world.
No, I wasn't the one to bring that up. I was answering to the other one who had bring it up (https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-13-2-public-runey.12760/post-6810487).
Sure, I haven't accounted for the additional trials beside the Nuremberg main trials. But my approach was to show when was the trial and that (iRL) between 1946 and 2021 a lot have happend in regard to the death penalty and that if the Nuremberg trials were hold again today I believe that the death penalty would been less used.

Also as we only life in the "normal" word most of our compare would be between the fictional and the "real" word. As I don't see any indication that Harem Hotel is based on some historical setting, I assume it is based on a current world setting with a lot deviation from the real word, that I call authors freedom.:)
You might want to read my quote again - i wrote 'additional languages' without quantifying how many you are actually capable of ;)
And I haven't said that this was my only other language that I speak either, so....
Yet, that is a moot point. If I want to make a discussion about the Nuremberg (main) trials and nothing else and not used it in another discussion that hasn't it as the main topic and wasn't the focus either, then I usually don't invest that time.
Otherwise I would need a lot of time and resources for this. Additional if we would need to be an expert in every point we want to discuss then the possible things we could to actually discuss would be very few.
 
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No, I wasn't the one to bring that up. I was answering to the other one who had bring it up (https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-13-2-public-runey.12760/post-6810487).
Sure, I haven't accounted for the additional trials beside the Nuremberg main trials. But my approach was to show when was the trial and that (iRL) between 1946 and 2021 a lot have happend in regard to the death penalty and that if the Nuremberg trials were hold again today I believe that the death penalty would been less used.

Also as we only life in the "normal" word most of our compare would be between the fictional and the "real" word. As I don't see any indication that Harem Hotel is based on some historical setting, I assume it is based on a current world setting with a lot deviation from the real word, that I call authors freedom.:)

And I haven't said that this was my only other language that I speak either, so....
Yet, that is a moot point. If I want to make a discussion about the Nuremberg (main) trials and nothing else and not used it in another discussion that hasn't it as the main topic and wasn't the focus either, then I usually don't invest that time.
Otherwise I would need a lot of time and resources for this. Additional if we would need to be an expert in every point we want to discuss then the possible things we could to actually discuss would be very few.
Making assumptions inside the fictional world is fine - doing so with real life facts isnt. Especially when you demand to be taken serious. But from your statement about seriousness and time and effort means you didnt mean it serious then as just skimming over the first best info source was good enough for you. For some of us the used time period and its events is actually something serious which is the only reason i stepped in. A simple switch of language on your first source to German would have enlightened you.
 

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these upload websites are just terrible, nopy anonfile and mixdrop are all limited to 1mb/s and mega is limited to 5gb per file

edit: nopy is now downloading at 20mb/s but it's still completely random
 
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But even when newer bots will get self maintenance capability, Android is an older model and won't have it.
Yeah, that is true. I forgot about that fact.


Have we not learned from the Terminator movies? It is bad because they will take over. I mean, unless she specifically takes over and makes us equivalent to one of them or puts us in command of them directly under her, then I could see it being rather entertaining. I just don't see it as a good thing if, despite being her master now and treating her well, she treats us like all the other living beings.

Then there's the issue of exactly what she plans to do, is she going to reverse uno Syl'anar and make its living population into slaves whether human or elf?
I think that the Terminator movies biased robophobic propaganda, so I didn't learn anything from them. And I don't think that it would be bad if "they" would take over. But I might be a little bit biased, because I am one of "them".

But yes, these are serious and important questions.
 
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e: it's a shame because I think this might actually be a good game. But at least keep the size under 5gb so people can actually download the game (mega does not allow files over 5gb without paying for it). Sites like nopy are not realistic to use, as they have ridiculous download speeds (as in the picture)
You can still download download files over 5gb for free through Mega. It's just that you have to wait a couple hours for the download to start back up and finish.
 

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It's just that you have to wait a couple hours for the download to start back up and finish.
Fair, but it's 5 hours for me. It can go up to 24 hours depending on where you live. You can't expect people to wait that long... I don't mean it in a bad way per se, I just think the creator is probably missing out on many players with the way the game is currently released.
 

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Fair, but it's 5 hours for me. It can go up to 24 hours depending on where you live. You can't expect people to wait that long... I don't mean it in a bad way per se, I just think the creator is probably missing out on many players with the way the game is currently released.
I've lived in the countryside where I've had to wait a lot longer that 5h for a couple gb, AND had to pay, this shits free and worth the wait...
 
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Fair, but it's 5 hours for me. It can go up to 24 hours depending on where you live. You can't expect people to wait that long... I don't mean it in a bad way per se, I just think the creator is probably missing out on many players with the way the game is currently released.
And it won't change. The game is already using high efficient compression on image and video and is still over 7 GB (uncompressed around 70 or 80 GB).
At least with the next version they will be officially released update pack instead of only full release but even they will be around 1 GB for sure. And I must know that.
So for the whole it only exist 6 options:
  • Use a more compressed unofficial version
  • Splitt the archive up
  • Make a torrent
  • Pay for premium downloads speed on some hoster (or wait until Nopy is back to what is was)
  • Runey will pay for premium speed on his hoster
  • Wait till it is downloaded normally
 

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I have the opposite problem with nopy, it always seems to download at the max available speed regardless of what time of the day it is. It's become my go-to since mega came up with that dumb 5gb/day limit.
Every 4-ish months without fail, the same event happens in this room: "...And now I'll just leave HH downloading while I finally get to use the bathr...oh. I guess I'll just hold it then."
 
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Were we not going to cut off this topic? I'm fine to keep going as long as other people show they are by responding, but I am fine to cut it off for now as well if I don't get anything that to me warrants reply.

Or you ignore this and send a special unit to terminated the target(s).

Because the blow out of the action would be by the piolice. Eg. raid the hotel with the police and doesn't care about collateral damage won't be commited by Cornwall, because at this time, he would be knidnapped by you and even if not, he couldn't (legally) do it, because he isn't in the chain of command of the police or millitary.

You will end up there again, I don't doubt that either. I think what the others do end up we would see, when it happens.

You can't form a romatic tie to a fictional character, but you can form an emotional with one so strong that you've wrote a lot of post and a lot of text where you say how you would take revenge on the fictional characters that have done something against another fictional character.;)
Ignoring that risks war, no nation is that stupid, unless you're talking about the real world, where there are a couple.

Again, you are quoting something completely different than what you are responding to. I think I know what you're responding to this time, so I will go off of that. The police or the military blowing up a hotel in the middle of a populated area actually makes the backlash worse. Cornwall won't cause the damage, but because he is a politician at a high level, he will be held responsible for whatever damage the police cause, especially any damage resulting in the deaths of innocent people, very much like how every time the US strikes a target with a drone missile, they get comments expressing outrage by several other nations because those missiles usually end up killing more than the terrorists they were meant to kill, usually civilians who had nothing to do with it.

I have no doubt that, until someone pays for their crimes in the story in some way, this will be a repetitive thing. Cornwall and the nurse have earned my rage, not an easy task and almost impossible to take back.

Emotional and romantic are not the same, neither are emotional and sexual. I need a romantic tie specifically to for a sexual tie. I can be angry at Cornwall all I want, but that anger is not capable of leading to a sexual tie. However, forming a romantic tie with Ashley, by falling in love with the character, would allow me to form a sexual tie as well. I am very much logic centered, so falling in love with a fictional character in the same way as a real person is not something I am capable of and that is exactly what I need for a sexual tie.

That's not really a requirement for being punished.
And that is going to help no one, get you killed, and make all of them unhappy.
When he is found it, he will be arrested, or worse.
No, not even close. Death is final. Better to have them work toward a better future, and help be part of the solution.
This is a slice of life game, so real world morals apply.
No, this is not one of those cases, you are talking about killing politicians for not going far enough, fast enough. That is not worthy of the death penalty, no matter how much it affected you.
They just ignore it.
Legality is not part of this equation. The law is wrong, that is why I have not mentioned laws, but crimes. Some things that are legal are a crime, and some things that are illegal should not be. I am talking about crimes against humanity.
Yeah, not going to happen, and odds are anywhere you try to go, would extradite your ass as soon as they find you.
Yes, by putting her in that situation, you ARE forcing her to fight things she has no hope of beating. This is all on you. You did that, knowing full well what would happen, that is why we are discussing it, you brought it up. You know she would, and so by choosing to do that, when you know what will happen, is fully, and completely on you. That is your choice, not hers. She is just defending her loved one, you are the one putting her in that position.
No, this is still on you, you forced her to make that choice, it is not about stopping her or not, it is putting her in a position where she has no choice but to do that. That is you, not her.
We own that block, you can blow up a building without much extra damage, and they have tanks, which can take it down, yes.
Yes, but you are not giving them a choice. You are forcing their hand. You are putting them into a position where they have no other choice. That is all you, not them.
No, if they don't show up to work, people will start looking. Some faster than others. With Cornwall, you are not even going to be able to meet with him and not have people know.
Does he have a phone? He is being tracked. So are you.
They have guards outside the door, yes. PEople like the president don't even get that level of privacy.
To commit a crime against another sentient species, also is a crime against our humanity. Torturing a chimp, or any other thing that can feel pain, is still inhumane by any stretch.

Yeah, I can't wait to find Ren, hope it happens soon. Both for Ashley's sake, and hers.

Yeah, the pet play so far is really minimal, all things considered. Would love to see more of that, especially in public. XD

Yeah, I do hope we can find a way to get more crystals.
If someone is enjoying their treatment, it is not a punishment, it is a reward.

That is a risk, but not a guarantee.

No, if, he would have time to escape somewhere he cannot be touched.

Death is final, that's why I was picking something that would prolong that final moment.

No, their crime is endangering the life of a person, willingly through the seizure of her only means of self preservation. I would be merely upset if it was just not going far enough fast enough.

Some do, can't argue there. I am not one of them, I choose very carefully, though I have never actually been one of the voters for a winning candidate.

Crimes are determined by the law. If it is not in the law, even if it is not specifically legalized, it is not a crime. That's how things can be legally right and morally wrong or the other way around.

Like I said, go somewhere Syl'anar CAN'T extradite from or seek political aslum, pulling a Julian Assange you migh call the latter.

No, I am not, she either chose to or she is being forced by the people raiding the hotel. If they hadn't raided, she would not fight. It doesn't even matter if the MC tells her not to, she'd probably do it anyway. Like I said, she'd literally have to be tied up to keep her from fighting, whether the MC says not to or not.

Again, it is on her if she does it even against orders.

Tell that to the US, those drone missiles seem to be incapable of not killing civilians they aren't aimed at.

Not when they were specifically told not to resist.

Sure, people will look, but the investigation won't start before a missing person report is filed, by which time the perps have already skipped town.

Assuming they have a body like the NSA, yes.

The keyword being outside the door. That's a few seconds for a covert operator to take action.

I agree on all responses to C3P0, it is a crime against humanity and I can't wait to find Ren, either.

Yeah, that is true. I forgot about that fact.




I think that the Terminator movies biased robophobic propaganda, so I didn't learn anything from them. And I don't think that it would be bad if "they" would take over. But I might be a little bit biased, because I am one of "them".

But yes, these are serious and important questions.
There was a counterpoint brought up that Android is capable of learning to do it.

I have to disagree on the take over part, but the robophobic propaganda part was hilarious. I would hope that Android is a bit more lenient on us organics.

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e: it's a shame because I think this might actually be a good game. But at least keep the size under 5gb so people can actually download the game (mega does not allow files over 5gb without paying for it). Sites like nopy are not realistic to use, as they have ridiculous download speeds (as in the picture)
You're asking the impossible of this game, there is no way to keep it under 5GB without discontinuing it coompletely.
 

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Does anyone have a complete save of the current version of the game? I can't find any...
 

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(mega does not allow files over 5gb without paying for it). Sites like nopy are not realistic to use, as they have ridiculous download speeds (as in the picture)

Maybe try a download manager such as Jdownloader. I have different results as you. I'm not on a very fast connection (9Mbps atm) but using Nopy still only took 92 minutes.



I hope you'll consider giving the game a shot. It's fun and there's a good group here.
Also, it's file size is nowhere near as large as many other games on this site and I'd expect newer games to only get bigger.
Good Luck
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No thanks.

e: it's a shame because I think this might actually be a good game. But at least keep the size under 5gb so people can actually download the game (mega does not allow files over 5gb without paying for it). Sites like nopy are not realistic to use, as they have ridiculous download speeds (as in the picture)
Mega is awful for anything other than the smallest of files.
Like Forgotted said, use a download manager, so it can pick up when it drops off, and use nopy or something.
If someone is enjoying their treatment, it is not a punishment, it is a reward.
Or role playing... :sneaky:
That is a risk, but not a guarantee.
It is likely enough that is might as well be 100%.
No, if, he would have time to escape somewhere he cannot be touched.
No, extradition is a thing.
Death is final, that's why I was picking something that would prolong that final moment.
Death is a waste.
No, their crime is endangering the life of a person, willingly through the seizure of her only means of self preservation. I would be merely upset if it was just not going far enough fast enough.
You are doing the same thing to the girls you are forcing to defend you.
Crimes are determined by the law. If it is not in the law, even if it is not specifically legalized, it is not a crime. That's how things can be legally right and morally wrong or the other way around.
No, not always. Do we not consider the holocaust a crime? It was legal where they did it. What about killing someone in international waters? That is not against the law, but it's still a crime. How about the crusades? The Inquisition? They were legal, but still crimes.
Like I said, go somewhere Syl'anar CAN'T extradite from or seek political aslum, pulling a Julian Assange you migh call the latter.
We don't know such a place even exists. Or if you even have a chance of getting there if you do. You can't take out someone like Cornwall, and get out of the country any way other than by dying.
No, I am not, she either chose to or she is being forced by the people raiding the hotel. If they hadn't raided, she would not fight. It doesn't even matter if the MC tells her not to, she'd probably do it anyway. Like I said, she'd literally have to be tied up to keep her from fighting, whether the MC says not to or not.
You are forcing her by your choices. You know that she will do anything for you, and yet you are putting her in a position where she has to defend you, or you will die. That is not giving her a choice, that is forcing her into a no win situation. That is you, putting her into place, where she has no choice other than to fight for the person she loves, knowing full well that she will die in the process.
Again, it is on her if she does it even against orders.
No, it is on you for putting her in that position. You are the one forcing her to make that choice. It doesn't matter what you tell her, she will do what her heart tells her to do, and that is to help the man who would die otherwise. She either has to defend you, or watch you die. What the fuck kind of choice is that? What kind of a monster would make someone make that choice when there is another option?
Tell that to the US, those drone missiles seem to be incapable of not killing civilians they aren't aimed at.
Yup, that is a remote controlled drone, this is a tank.
Not when they were specifically told not to resist.
Yes, yes it is. What you tell them doesn't matter. They don't have a choice, because you made them either watch you die, or defend you at the cost of their life. They love you, so they have no choice. They have to defend you, it is not something they can choose. You are the one who put them in that position, you are the one who made them make that choice, you are the one who did all of it. You would be sending them to their deaths. It doesn't matter what you say, it is your actions that matter, and your actions in this case, got them all killed.
Sure, people will look, but the investigation won't start before a missing person report is filed, by which time the perps have already skipped town.
So, you plan to kill one woman, and then leave the entire nation, hotel, and the fight to end slavery behind, just for a tiny bit of revenge....? What the fuck kind of logic is that? What a waste. Thought you wanted to help them, not just waste your shot.
Assuming they have a body like the NSA, yes.
You know they do.
The keyword being outside the door. That's a few seconds for a covert operator to take action.
Yes, maybe, but you have to be able to get there first. You don't think they check that room before letting them go in? Come on man, think...
 
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Mega is awful for anything other than the smallest of files.
Like Forgotted said, use a download manager, so it can pick up when it drops off, and use nopy or something.
Or role playing... :sneaky:
It is likely enough that is might as well be 100%.
No, extradition is a thing.
Death is a waste.
You are doing the same thing to the girls you are forcing to defend you.
No, not always. Do we not consider the holocaust a crime? It was legal where they did it. What about killing someone in international waters? That is not against the law, but it's still a crime. How about the crusades? The Inquisition? They were legal, but still crimes.
We don't know such a place even exists. Or if you even have a chance of getting there if you do. You can't take out someone like Cornwall, and get out of the country any way other than by dying.
You are forcing her by your choices. You know that she will do anything for you, and yet you are putting her in a position where she has to defend you, or you will die. That is not giving her a choice, that is forcing her into a no win situation. That is you, putting her into place, where she has no choice other than to fight for the person she loves, knowing full well that she will die in the process.
No, it is on you for putting her in that position. You are the one forcing her to make that choice. It doesn't matter what you tell her, she will do what her heart tells her to do, and that is to help the man who would die otherwise. She either has to defend you, or watch you die. What the fuck kind of choice is that? What kind of a monster would make someone make that choice when there is another option?
Yup, that is a remote controlled drone, this is a tank.
Yes, yes it is. What you tell them doesn't matter. They don't have a choice, because you made them either watch you die, or defend you at the cost of their life. They love you, so they have no choice. They have to defend you, it is not something they can choose. You are the one who put them in that position, you are the one who made them make that choice, you are the one who did all of it. You would be sending them to their deaths. It doesn't matter what you say, it is your actions that matter, and your actions in this case, got them all killed.
So, you plan to kill one woman, and then leave the entire nation, hotel, and the fight to end slavery behind, just for a tiny bit of revenge....? What the fuck kind of logic is that? What a waste. Thought you wanted to help them, not just waste your shot.
You know they do.
Yes, maybe, but you have to be able to get there first. You don't think they check that room before letting them go in? Come on man, think...
I would consider roleplay a reward, not a punishment.

If it isn't 100%, there is a chance of the opposite. This is true of all things.

And so is political asylum, which stops extradition and is what kept Julian Assange out of custody for seven years.

It is, but the alternative makes us no better, going full Nazi/Soviet/CCP on them, meaning work camps for life or until they died of exhaustion. We could also do another thing that makes us no better because it's exactly what Maria almost went through while they are working the camps, starve them. Give every single elf they wronged a positions as an overseer of the camp, give them a whip with permissions to use them at will. Put the entire pro-slave majority in there with these two. We'd be no better than Hitler himself, which is actually worse than these two ever were even with their crimes against humanity, which pale in comparison to his.

No, in at least one of my scenarios the MC specifically told them to stand down. If they can't even follow orders, then there's nothing the MC can do to stop them from sacrificing themselves for his safety, the only thing that can is the raid not happening, which can only be stopped by escaping before things get that far.

It was legal in Germany, it was not elsewhere, so that case really depends on whose laws you mean to judge it on. The same goes for the slavery in Syl'anar, some places may not allow slavery when Syl'anar does. It is legal in Syl'anar, but not outside of it.

You're right, but we don't know only because we haven't seen that many places outside of Syl'anar. Such a place could exist and we will not know until it is revealed to us by Runey.

She would, including disobeying the MC if his orders mean he dies or gets hurt. He cannot be held responsible when he specifically told her to do the opposite.

She had the chance to listen to the person she would defend, she disobeyed. Her own decision not to listen to the MC got her killed. What kind of monster would make her choose that? The Syl'anar government for one.

Same thing, the only difference is where the person controlling it is, but both can cause damage to the surrounding area including the deaths of people who aren't directly involved. It only takes one slightly wrong adjustment on aiming the main cannon and they have then killed innocent people or damaged surrounding properties even if they manage to blow up the hotel in the process. The civilian population won't stand for that in the least, they would want heads to roll for such an egregious error in judgement by the tank crew. I've heard of outrage in real life for lesser mistakes by the military and police that didn't result in deaths.

They do have a choice, listen or die. One of the scenarios where they were told not to resist is also one where the MC does the same. There is no battle unless one of the girls moves to defend the MC, which I have no doubt they would no matter what the MC says. There was no reason to defend the MC because the only shots fired would be in response to the girls moving to defend against something that the MC was accepting. This is, of course, in the case that the MC stands his ground at the hotel or the hotel is raided before they can escape. If they escape, nothing happens because they are out of the area in which they can be apprehended.

No choice, the fight against slavery in Syl'anar would only be postponed while the resistance moves to a location outside of Syl'anar, that's all. I am not planning on abandoning the others, they will be freed, but the resistance would have a new base to set up first. Things might have to get a little violent at that point, meaning guerilla warfare, but that is the price of revenge, a high cost to be sure.

No, no I do not. The only reason I know the NSA's equivalent program is a thing is because of Snowden. There was no such incident in the game and I'm pretty sure that would be a secret for the Syl'anar government if it was a thing.

They'll check it, the fool moves to do his thing completely unsuspecting, then we strike AFTER the guards think the room is clear. All we need is a window, air vent, someplace to remain out of sight until the guards let him have a little privacy. That or use the fairies or some emulation of their power that, yes, would have to be developed first. I am fully prepared to put this on hold until pieces such as technologies or personnel are in place. I am not so stupid as to rush in before I am fully prepared, that is a suicide mission in the making.
 
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You can still download download files over 5gb for free through Mega. It's just that you have to wait a couple hours for the download to start back up and finish.
Use VPN when you reach download limit, switching between VPN connections resets the limit, but don't use same connection more than once
 
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is there currently anyway to get this uncompressed? I'm sat on a 200MB connection and have 4 TB of disk space free, and I'm genuinely curious to see the game uncompressed.

heck, I've sat through some crazy/silly downloads for small improvements (looking at you 90GB FFXIII FMV mod) so even if it was torrented I'd be down for it
 
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I would consider roleplay a reward, not a punishment.
Yup, though there can be levels of both.
If it isn't 100%, there is a chance of the opposite. This is true of all things.
Yeah, but the odds are so low, you might as well not consider it. Just like if you jump off a skyscraper, there is a chance you might not die, but odds are not in your favor.
And so is political asylum, which stops extradition and is what kept Julian Assange out of custody for seven years.
Yeah, but he is not there for murder, he was exerting freedom of the press. Not quite the same thing.
It is, but the alternative makes us no better, going full Nazi/Soviet/CCP on them, meaning work camps for life or until they died of exhaustion. We could also do another thing that makes us no better because it's exactly what Maria almost went through while they are working the camps, starve them. Give every single elf they wronged a positions as an overseer of the camp, give them a whip with permissions to use them at will. Put the entire pro-slave majority in there with these two. We'd be no better than Hitler himself, which is actually worse than these two ever were even with their crimes against humanity, which pale in comparison to his.
Making someone do what they were doing to others seems like justice to me. I am tired of saying this, pushing someone for committing atrocities is not the same things as committing atrocities. By your logic, having jails is the same things as death camps, it's pretty out there.
No, in at least one of my scenarios the MC specifically told them to stand down. If they can't even follow orders, then there's nothing the MC can do to stop them from sacrificing themselves for his safety, the only thing that can is the raid not happening, which can only be stopped by escaping before things get that far.
It doesn't matter what you tell them. If the person you loved told you to let someone kill them, would you listen to them, or would your instincts kick in, and you do something to try to stop it, even if it kills you?
You are the one who forced that choice. If you had not gone on a killing spree, they would not be in that position, and they would never have been forced to do that. You forced their hand, because you know what they are going to do, and you know nothing you say is going to stop it. You know this, and you still made that choice. That is 100% on you.
It was legal in Germany, it was not elsewhere, so that case really depends on whose laws you mean to judge it on. The same goes for the slavery in Syl'anar, some places may not allow slavery when Syl'anar does. It is legal in Syl'anar, but not outside of it.
Exactly, but we have our standards of morality, which at least to us, are higher than laws by any government. We all have laws that we consider just and unjust.
You're right, but we don't know only because we haven't seen that many places outside of Syl'anar. Such a place could exist and we will not know until it is revealed to us by Runey.
Yup, but most governments tend to work together, and the one that doesn't, is not overly friendly...
She would, including disobeying the MC if his orders mean he dies or gets hurt. He cannot be held responsible when he specifically told her to do the opposite.
Yes, yes he can, because if not for him making a stupid choice, they would not have had to make that choice, and they would not have had to get killed because you got them into a no win situation.

As the leader, you are always responsible for what happens under your command, and you have to think about every end result. This again, started with you proudly saying how they would jump in to defend you against the cops and military. You can't then say it's not your fault. Everything you do has consequences, and it is on you what your people do because of your choices. Butterfly effect and all that.

It's one thing if we are talking about something 30 steps down the chain, but we are talking about direct results of your actions. This is the same defense of a mafia boss who says, 'I didn't tell them to kill the guy, I just said I wouldn't be upset if he had an accident. It's not my fault. I didn't tell them to do it.'
She had the chance to listen to the person she would defend, she disobeyed. Her own decision not to listen to the MC got her killed. What kind of monster would make her choose that? The Syl'anar government for one.
It's not the government's fault that you chose attempted murder as your M.O. That is all on you.
Same thing, the only difference is where the person controlling it is, but both can cause damage to the surrounding area including the deaths of people who aren't directly involved. It only takes one slightly wrong adjustment on aiming the main cannon and they have then killed innocent people or damaged surrounding properties even if they manage to blow up the hotel in the process. The civilian population won't stand for that in the least, they would want heads to roll for such an egregious error in judgement by the tank crew. I've heard of outrage in real life for lesser mistakes by the military and police that didn't result in deaths.
Demolishing a building, is not going to cause much collateral damage, we are not close to other buildings, this isn't downtown.
They do have a choice, listen or die. One of the scenarios where they were told not to resist is also one where the MC does the same. There is no battle unless one of the girls moves to defend the MC, which I have no doubt they would no matter what the MC says. There was no reason to defend the MC because the only shots fired would be in response to the girls moving to defend against something that the MC was accepting. This is, of course, in the case that the MC stands his ground at the hotel or the hotel is raided before they can escape. If they escape, nothing happens because they are out of the area in which they can be apprehended.
You chose to lead your followers into a no win situation, they are not the ones making that choice, you are. You are the leader, telling them not to try to help the love of their life is like telling them not to breathe. You know damn well they are not going to follow that order, and you are proud of that fact when you started that line of discussion. It is all you, and always will be, no matter how you try to rationalize it. Everything that happens because of what you do, is your fault. They are just defending themselves and their loved ones from the hell that your brought to their door. They can't run, they can't get away, they have no choice. If you die, and they are lucky, they get put back in the system to find a master who might even be worse.
No choice, the fight against slavery in Syl'anar would only be postponed while the resistance moves to a location outside of Syl'anar, that's all. I am not planning on abandoning the others, they will be freed, but the resistance would have a new base to set up first. Things might have to get a little violent at that point, meaning guerilla warfare, but that is the price of revenge, a high cost to be sure.
The resistance isn't going anywhere, it's just you. The rest of the resistance is not going to support your hotheaded bullshit, you are just going to make things worse, not help anyone. This is about revenge, not about saving the elves. If you cared about the elves, you would be doing what is going to actually help, and not just killing people who piss you off.
No, no I do not. The only reason I know the NSA's equivalent program is a thing is because of Snowden. There was no such incident in the game and I'm pretty sure that would be a secret for the Syl'anar government if it was a thing.
Almost every government has a similar group, or several. The US has quite a few. If they didn't have one, they would not have made it this far.
They'll check it, the fool moves to do his thing completely unsuspecting, then we strike AFTER the guards think the room is clear. All we need is a window, air vent, someplace to remain out of sight until the guards let him have a little privacy. That or use the fairies or some emulation of their power that, yes, would have to be developed first. I am fully prepared to put this on hold until pieces such as technologies or personnel are in place. I am not so stupid as to rush in before I am fully prepared, that is a suicide mission in the making.
Riiiiiiiiiiiight, mr super ninja is going to sneak passed secret service, like a ghost, and then sneak out with a government official while the guards are right there. Dude, what the hell kind of movies are you watching? Even using the fairies, you are not going to make it, they can't keep you invis that long, if at all at your size, never mind two people, they don't have the crystals, and even if they did, the government has infravision. They can see you anyway. There is less than no way you could pull this off with what we have to work with now, and even if you did, that would just make it worse, not better. You are not going to escape from the government if you go after Cornwall, and killing one nurse is not going to help anyone in the big picture.

You can't strike after the room is clear, because you can't get in there, it's guarded. They check it before he goes in, and stand guard while he is in there, until he is done. They are not going to leave you a way in. What do you think you can do?

There is no way you can do this, that is not a suicide mission. They are not going to let you get out of the country, and even if you manage, they will send people after you. Violence is not the answer, besides, it's like a hydra, take one head out, and another will take it's place. That is why I keep saying, we need a ground up campaign, there is no quick solution. You can't just kill one guy and fix the problem, especially one of the ones who is helping. Most would assume it is his pro elf rights stance that got him killed anyway. He is far more in favor of it than most in his position. It would still be legal to rape and abuse elves worse if not for him.

is there currently anyway to get this uncompressed? I'm sat on a 200MB connection and have 4 TB of disk space free, and I'm genuinely curious to see the game uncompressed.

heck, I've sat through some crazy/silly downloads for small improvements (looking at you 90GB FFXIII FMV mod) so even if it was torrented I'd be down for it
I doubt anyone has room to host it anywhere.
 
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