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is this one of those games that....if you access all routes it goes into infinity loop? like you dated XXX then go with or no with her...sleep....breakfast...wash dishes....go to school....met girl harass or not...go home...date xxx again then rinse and repeat....?

...fuck i hate those...i'm looking at you foot of the mountain! ...fuckin drag.. :cautious:
 

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some devs... especially those that are in this community should know by now that people hate sandbox and grind games, so i wonder ZL-Games why you did still go for that in this game, i dont think you are that new to have not know this....:unsure:
did you do it thinking that it will make it more easy to do updates with less renders, because people are not fools either, they will know how many new renders and animations you added and it being a sandbox wont hide that fact.
 
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some devs... especially those that are in this community should know by now that people hate sandbox and grind games, so i wonder ZL-Games why you did still go for that in this game, i dont think you are that new to have not know this....:unsure:
did you do it thinking that it will make it more easy to do updates with less renders, because people are not fools either, they will know how many new renders and animations you added and it being a sandbox wont hide that fact.
I don't think everyone likes sandbox games, otherwise there wouldn't be any, would there? That's no excuse. I go on with my work as long as I have and when I think it is appropriate to release.
 

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I don't think everyone likes sandbox games, otherwise there wouldn't be any, would there? That's no excuse. I go on with my work as long as I have and when I think it is appropriate to release.
what does that have to do with anything, what i was asking myself and you is what made you think it was a good idea to mix grind and that horrible sandbox you have made in the game, sanbox can be not so horrible if you make it like milfy city or some other games that shows you where you have to go next, in your game most of the time you dont know at all where to go to trigger events etc and the grind in other games (mostly have mods so thats why they get some love atleast) your game is not one of the most popular here so it will take time for someone to ever do one so that people can play , the grind and sanbox is something that will have you and the work you put with no support at all.
 
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some devs... especially those that are in this community should know by now that people hate sandbox and grind games, so i wonder ZL-Games why you did still go for that in this game, i dont think you are that new to have not know this....:unsure:
did you do it thinking that it will make it more easy to do updates with less renders, because people are not fools either, they will know how many new renders and animations you added and it being a sandbox wont hide that fact.
Some people, like myself, don't mind sandbox games as long as they are properly done - a clear indication what you should do, when, where or if there's a new event unlocked and so forth.
Yes, a lot of people don't like sandbox games, but that doesn't mean NOBODY likes those games, haha :p
 

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Some people, like myself, don't mind sandbox games as long as they are properly done - a clear indication what you should do, when, where or if there's a new event unlocked and so forth.
Yes, a lot of people don't like sandbox games, but that doesn't mean NOBODY likes those games, haha :p
and thats what i mean in the second post, if you do the sandbox good enough people will end up not minding it at all, but in this game the sandbox and grind is horrible, i dont know where to go at all and i have to use a walkthrough....... all the time.
 
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Sandbox is the biggest copout in these kinds of games. Its the perfect way to artificially inflate playtime without actually accomplishing anything in game. "Hey this update is pretty good size! Takes 2 hours to play through" followed by 200 renders and 1hr 45 mins of randomly clicking on 14 different direction arrows to get to where you need to go for each step.

I have yet to play a game that had its story enhanced by sandbox instead of a branching route.
 

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Sandbox is the biggest copout in these kinds of games. Its the perfect way to artificially inflate playtime without actually accomplishing anything in game. "Hey this update is pretty good size! Takes 2 hours to play through" followed by 200 renders and 1hr 45 mins of randomly clicking on 14 different direction arrows to get to where you need to go for each step.

I have yet to play a game that had its story enhanced by sandbox instead of a branching route.
Well sandbox can work if you want players to be able to develop relations with characters in game at separate speeds and without having to interact with all. Cons can be that you can get lost without good hints and devs should be aware that a sandbox is actually more work for them and old scenes need to get updated and/or closed up when they do not make sense anymore considering how far you have progressed in the story. Think The Tyrant is a nice example of that. Quite a few of the interaction scenes do not make sense anymore when you have progressed quite far with the chars.
 
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and thats what i mean in the second post, if you do the sandbox good enough people will end up not minding it at all, but in this game the sandbox and grind is horrible, i dont know where to go at all and i have to use a walkthrough....... all the time.
If you have to do critics on someone do it on me... I'm his beta tester and I'm the one who recommend to him mainly to add the things ( such as the introduction of Beatrice)... The dev has no faults.... ;)
 
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If you have to do critiques on someone do it on me... I'm his beta tester and I'm the one who recommend to him mainly to add the things ( such as the introduction of Beatrice)... The dev has no faults.... ;)
I was giving him feedback of how bad his sandbox and grind is, how you have to be reading a walkthrough all the game because there is no hints or mark in the game that points you to the next event etc, if i wanted to be an ass and just critic the game i will go and rate it 1 or 2 stars since the only thing good in the game is the renders, dont confuse feedback with critics.

He can fix this all with some kind of gps to show where the girls are, like in other games you see the girls icons where they are located or some kind of quest/hint log inside the game telling you what to do / where to go next etc, also adding cheats menu for those that hate grinding. There is a easy way to fix the game.
On another note, i doubt you are the one that suggested him make this type of sandbox or grindfest.
 
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If you have to do critiques on someone do it on me... I'm his beta tester and I'm the one who recommend to him mainly to add the things ( such as the introduction of Beatrice)... The dev has no faults.... ;)
Nope, testers advice and might be listened to, devs decide though. If last is not true there is another problem, that often leads to bad and abandoned games is what a long list of abandoned or on long hiatus games, even very popular ones, teaches us.
 

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I am sorry, but are you guys seriously trashing sandbox games??? It's the best possible way to approach developing a game like this. Do you know what a dev shouldn't do? Idiotic linear story, broken into individual days, where you have to play through every possible branch to see all the content. This is a porn game. There shouldn't be any way to screw it up or miss anything.

As for Harem Resort, true, a complete gallery and some hints to help you realize there are scenes you haven't seen and how to unlock them would be nice, but it is on the right track. Give it some time, I'm sure QoL improvements are soon to follow.
 
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I don't think everyone likes sandbox games, otherwise there wouldn't be any, would there? That's no excuse. I go on with my work as long as I have and when I think it is appropriate to release.
I enjoy sandbox games myself. But still going to pass on this particular update. Will wait a few so when I play again there is more than 3 mins of game play. I do enjoy this game, though.
 

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I love sandbox games and having the freedom to navigate the enviroments. It makes it feel more engaging for me rather than hitting 'auto' and reading a story.

@ dev keep up the good work, thanks!
 
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What does Ary max out at? and does anything else unlock for doing so?
This is all for Ary so far
Kiss (+1 LOVE) Touch Boobs (+1 LEWDNESS) Lick her nipples (+1 LEWDNESS) Titjob (+1 LEWDNESS) Handjob (+1 LEWDNESS)
It's repeatable I'm not sure if it maxes out.
 
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This is all for Ary so far
Kiss (+1 LOVE) Touch Boobs (+1 LEWDNESS) Lick her nipples (+1 LEWDNESS) Titjob (+1 LEWDNESS) Handjob (+1 LEWDNESS)
It's repeatable I'm not sure if it maxes out.
Didn't know if it was like the girl on the beach where if you keep going something else happens but i'll not bother to keep at it unless someone says otherwise
 
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