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Overview:
The game is about a guy who had to leave his hometown for the first time because of college. When he arrives at this new location he realizes that this place has some interesting peculiarities.
He has about 30 days to settle in, meet new people, and make some money before college starts. After the college starts he has to focus on studies(or not) to get good grades.
It is fine having an interest in many women from different works. No one is dissing you because of that. Goodness sakes, SexNote's Mom is basically Summertime Saga's Mom.

There is nothing wrong with that. Immortalizing a character from another work in some form is actually a nod of appreciation and seen as a positive thing.

But what people have an issue is the originality of the artwork and the fact you are trying to make money off that. When people spend their money, they want to do so on something original, at least in terms of not being the same art from someone else. With that said, you can still use the same models given you just use your own art style or get someone to make a consistent artstyle for each drawing.

Now I have made a post about how to do this and I would like for you to read it. if not, I'll summarize it for you.

1) Just present what you want as a story. Show us the story of what you want and just work on that. Text based stories can be quite successful and it can improve the quality of your overall work. Don't charge people for that.
2) Instead as you make branches in your story, you allow opportunity to make their own given they pay you and falls in line with what kind of thing you want. That is a good means to initially make money. Just make sure you accredit them for their input.
3) Then you can start hiring an artist. Just make sure it is a reliable one.
4) Then you can start doing what you are doing here.
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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It is fine having an interest in many women from different works. No one is dissing you because of that. Goodness sakes, SexNote's Mom is basically Summertime Saga's Mom.

There is nothing wrong with that. Immortalizing a character from another work in some form is actually a nod of appreciation and seen as a positive thing.

But what people have an issue is the originality of the artwork and the fact you are trying to make money off that. When people spend their money, they want to do so on something original, at least in terms of not being the same art from someone else. With that said, you can still use the same models given you just use your own art style or get someone to make a consistent artstyle for each drawing.

Now I have made a post about how to do this and I would like for you to read it. if not, I'll summarize it for you.

1) Just present what you want as a story. Show us the story of what you want and just work on that. Text based stories can be quite successful and it can improve the quality of your overall work. Don't charge people for that.
2) Instead as you make branches in your story, you allow opportunity to make their own given they pay you and falls in line with what kind of thing you want. That is a good means to initially make money. Just make sure you accredit them for their input.
3) Then you can start hiring an artist. Just make sure it is a reliable one.
4) Then you can start doing what you are doing here.
The game is FREE and it will always be FREE! The only difference between a patreon and a non-patreon is the release date. I will never charge a dime for the game.
But since most of you are so offended by the artworks. I will keep the game to myself. And maybe someday release it when I have my own original art. Till then, I will just focus on code and story.
 
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The game is FREE and it will always be FREE! The only difference between a patreon and a non-patreon is the release date. I will never charge a dime for the game.
But since most of you are so offended by the artworks. I will keep the game to myself. And maybe someday release it when I have my own original art. Till then, I will just focus on code and story.
Dude, I am just telling you how to do what you are trying to do much easier. Don't mean anything negative about it. You are not the first person I said this to.
 

macadam

Chicken Bubble Butt
Game Developer
Aug 5, 2016
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if you not good at drawing , you can always start slowly . like using already existing drawing and copy-draw on top of them following the lines.
i know that sound stupid, but it actually help you to get some basics drawings, and once you did that for a moment, you will be able to reproduce the similar type of art without copy-paste or else and then you will be able to customize your art all by yourself.

i sound like a guy explaining stuff at a 5yo child XD, but its like the best way to start drawing. you got the base with this technic and then you use that base to custom your own style.

its all about motivation after all. if you have motivation, you can do everything :D
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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Dude, I am just telling you how to do what you are trying to do much easier. Don't mean anything negative about it. You are not the first person I said this to.
And I thank you for your comment. Just saying that since there are so much offended people in here, I will keep the updates for myself, and when I have my own art, I will release it. But till then, I will focus on code and story side.
The thing is, I never though I will find so much hypocrisy in this type of forum. I'm not selling anything, just sharing a FREE game with original story, using art that already exists, just pledging for support to continue the creation of the game. If I use images from a porn movie, just changing dialogue and options, is that much different!? The creation of memes, isn't that the use of others people creations, creating new "art"? Where is the line?
I posted something here for FREE, and yet people are complained that I'm stealing art?! That's sad man... Realy sad..
 

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Lmao, this is a new low.
The game is FREE and it will always be FREE! The only difference between a patreon and a non-patreon is the release date. I will never charge a dime for the game.
But since most of you are so offended by the artworks. I will keep the game to myself. And maybe someday release it when I have my own original art. Till then, I will just focus on code and story.
That's not free. You're selling early access to the game.

And you're taking milftoon art in your game... milftoon which uses these forums... so you're not getting away with that I think.

And in response to your other post, there is such thing as honor among thieves. You can steal from other people but you thieves don't steal from each other. This is the same thing here, you came in and started stealing shit from other thieves.
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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Lmao, this is a new low.

That's not free. You're selling early access to the game.

And you're taking milftoon art in your game... milftoon which uses these forums... so you're not getting away with that I think.
I'm not selling anything! Like I said, I will keep it to myself. Learn to read!
As you can check I suspended patreon page. When I have my own art, maybe I will reopen it.
 
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macadam

Chicken Bubble Butt
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keep it cool guys ... dont want daddy moderator to come here and kick some asses :p

its aint the first game using existing stuff, they are shit tons of game using real porn pics and videos here, and its not like they shut down by DMCA of porn movie producers or actress. they are no need to be bad. dev perfectly understood your all opinion.

stay cool and frosty ! :D

R4V3N if you want, you can contact a moderator or staff and ask for your game to be put "ON HOLD", until you came back with your own art and stuff. :)
 

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This used to be the norm I think, played a bunch of flash games back in the day that just used art from old Visual Novels, the difference is that there was no patreon back then and no one ever asked for any money.
 
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I'm not selling anything! Like I said, I will keep it to myself. Learn to read!
As you can check I suspended patreon page. When I have my own art, maybe I will reopen it.
You're saying you're not selling anything but what I quoted is a definite description of selling early access to your game.

You said and I quote
The only difference between a patreon and a non-patreon is the release date.
That, by definition is exchanging money (being a patron) to get access to your product (this shitty game), earlier. That's called selling.
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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keep it cool guys ... dont want daddy moderator to come here and kick some asses :p

its aint the first game using existing stuff, they are shit tons of game using real porn pics and videos here, and its not like they shut down by DMCA of porn movie producers or actress. they are no need to be bad. dev perfectly understood your all opinion.

stay cool and frosty ! :D

R4V3N if you want, you can contact a moderator or staff and ask for your game to be put "ON HOLD", until you came back with your own art and stuff. :)
I already suspended patreon page, but will continue to developed the game. Just keep it to myself for now.
Didn't know that there were so much hypocrisy in this type of forums. Such a shame...

Thanks for your help, I will talk to them.
 

botc76

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Well, considering that at least milftoon is making almost all their money using characters they don't really own, as evidenced by CHichi, it's not like it's really stolen from them, but Melkor Mancin's stuff is his own, so that is basically art theft.
OTOH, even if it isn't Milftoon's characters, it's still work someone did for them and they paid for it, so it's still not okay to use their assets.


Even if it isn't for profit (and that a patreon even existed is proof that this was the goal initially), strangely enough, more than with real pics of porn actresses, this just doesn't feel right.
 
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R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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You're saying you're not selling anything but what I quoted is a definite description of selling early access to your game.

You said and I quote
That, by definition is exchanging money (being a patron) to get access to your product (this shitty game), earlier. That's called selling.
So by your definition, games like "Camp Pimewood" should not exist. Since it's using copyright characters.
And if you were smart enough you should know there is a "small" difference between selling a "thing" and "selling the right" to access it earlier!
But by the way you talk, defines the type of person that you are.

But anyway, by your definition, I'm not selling anything because patreon page no longer exists.
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
36
68
This used to be the norm I think, played a bunch of flash games back in the day that just used art from old Visual Novels, the difference is that there was no patreon back then and no one ever asked for any money.
Don't worry about it. Patreon page no longer exists.
 

R4V3N

aka KinkyJuice
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2019
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That is not how copyright works. You are making money with someone elses artwork which makes it an infringement. People here saying it's okay for you to do so because they pirate have no idea.
Don't worry about it. Patreon page no longer exists, and I will keep the game to myself.
 
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