Amelie's areolas are a bit too big for my taste imo, couldn't have been a bit smaller.... or a lot smaller.
The other person in the scene expresses that she doesn’t want it multiple times. If you somehow manage to read that as consent, then I’m really worried for the people you have sexual interactions with.
I thought that maybe she came to the table in her bra because her shirt was hanging on the back of the chair, and she put it on when she sat down... don't you all keep a shirt at the table for diner time?
Lmao, I didn't read your second sentence and I thought you were pointing out how he's saying "you can't walk around the house in your underwear" and in the second render he's in his underwear.
No, that is definitely NOT how most actual rapes happen. Rape is usually a violent act, often it is more about dominance than anything else.
This is finally a differentiated examination of this topic. And as botc76 already wrote, in these games there is almost always behavior that is never allowed in real life. And it is important to definitely recognize the difference.No, that is definitely NOT how most actual rapes happen. Rape is usually a violent act, often it is more about dominance than anything else.
Now, if you would say that is how most cases of sexual assault happen, I might agree with you more. Or if you added that this often happens when at least the victim is heavily intoxicated or straight up drugged, it might also a more valid statement.
That is one of the problems with the #Meetoo movement (which I generally am positive towards, but think it has gone too far in some ways, this being one of them), that the lines of what is sexual assault, what is rape and what is sexual harassment are constantly being blurred and changed, even though those terms are actually pretty clearly defined.
Stuff like this "feels rapey" or "I felt raped" also doesn't really help, because you can feel things, even though they aren't what you feel and someone's feelings alone shouldn't lead to a criminal record for others.
In general and not just in regard to somedude's post, I do agree that under most circumstances the actions of the MC feel too pushy and definitely as if he doesn't accept a no. And in reality, any behaviour like this would be straddling a very fine line.
I would definitely NOT act like this in 2023, even if the woman gave me signals, that this is what she really wants, just too dangerous, not only for yourself and possible consequences, but also because if you misinterpret it in any way, you would do something really horrible to the woman.
In the case of the girls in this game though, both auntie and older daughter, Kylie, are CLEARLY interested and want more, they both repeatedly do stuff with the MC and later seemingly backpedal, only to then do it again, if the MC continues to engage with them.
And every time they are fine with it afterwards (auntie never does seem to have any problems with the acts, just with the moral implications for doing stuff like this while in a relationship and with her nephew nonetheless, and her daughter is often even initiating things herself). Due to that, I would think that in the game it is pretty clear that the girls want the MC to "overcome their resistance" so to speak, especially the aunt doesn't have it in her to push the boundaries herself and lets the MC do it.
Now, I'm saying in the game, because again, in reality this would be an incredibly dangerous fine line to walk, even just slightly misunderstanding what the woman wants, would lead to you going way too far into nonconsensual actions.
But we also shouldn't take this too serious, because let's be honest, A FUCKING LOT of the things happening in these games should be avoided like hell in real life. They are not meant to show you how to behave in reality, they are meant to fulfil kinks and wishes.
In the end, let me point out that in some way the younger daughter, Stephanie, is the most "rapey" character in the game!
She does constantly sexually assault the MC in his sleep, where he isn't even able to give consent, (and he has clearly said he doesn't want that, when he was awake) and even goes so far as to push parts of his body in her vagina several times.
Which is another thing that constantly happens in these games, women sucking or masturbating a guy without his consent, we can say all we want that most guys wouldn't have a problem with it, in real life this would be an act of sexual assault as well.
I'm sure all this sounded better in your head.
Oh no, and you were doing so fine until now. Having your opinion and expressing it well, so that while I definitely disagree with you, I had zero problems with that, then you go and completely disregard the whole rest of the game, just so that your (and Jericho85's) point seems more valid AND even question someone's character, like a... well, like someone being not exactly a great guy.
The vast majority of rapes are marital or done by an acquaintance (stats range from 80-90%) most of those are not violent. The women aren't being beaten into submission or choked to make them give up. They have generally already been worn down. So they "let it happen" because it's often times better than the alternative which does include violence.
That was what my advice was mostly for. Don't act on those signals, even if they're given those strongly. It can backfire and if it does your life will be pretty much over. (up to 10% of rape allegations were provably false, those stats were from the FBI)
Like posted above most rape is done by either a spouse (~51%) or an acquaintance (~40%), someone that is generally loved by the person that is being raped. Even if they are otherwise interested in having sex with that person, that does not mean they are okay with having done anything and everything to them. Most of the victims from those situations are 'fine' with it afterwards, they 'accept' it. At least outwardly, and often still keep engaging with that person (when it's a romantic partner especially). Now the aunt in this situation I might agree with, but what the niece was expressing makes it unequivocally rape. She said no multiple times, she said don't cum in me (and depending on your choice the MC does anyway). That is rape, there are no two ways about it.
It is fine to have this fantasy, or to live that fantasy through virtual means. A lot of women do as well. The issue lies in the denial of what it is. And you can also act on this kink with a partner, as long as even the non-consent is consensual.
She is unironically more rapey, more manipulative and grosser in that regard. This also can be your fantasy or kink and living vicariously through the MC to experience that is fine. The same goes for with Kylee, just be aware of what it is.In the end, let me point out that in some way the younger daughter, Stephanie, is the most "rapey" character in the game!
She does constantly sexually assault the MC in his sleep, where he isn't even able to give consent, (and he has clearly said he doesn't want that, when he was awake) and even goes so far as to push parts of his body in her vagina several times.
Which is another thing that constantly happens in these games, women sucking or masturbating a guy without his consent, we can say all we want that most guys wouldn't have a problem with it, in real life this would be an act of sexual assault as well.
I understand your commitment to pointing out grievances in our society and also in such games. It's definitely a very sensitive subject. But didn't you pick the wrong game for this discussion? It's obvious that the author of this game doesn't want to portray rape.
